Not "Simply Just Rocks"

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Say what you will. I believe there is an agenda that wants us to think that there weren't ancient advanced civilizations In North America, they discredit any evidence as soon as it is presented. These rocks have been picked and flaked and shaped by humans from long ago. My favorite is the round clay ball. It was once wrapped in some sort of animal hide and used in a stickball like game. I will not be responding to naysayers. I've done countless hours of research. Thanks for looking.


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The Grim Reaper

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Sorry, but yes they are. You can do all the research you want, those are not man made artifacts. But since you aren't responding to naysayers my guess is you wont be posting here anymore since I am sure everyone will agree with me.

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By the way, there were ancient highly advanced civilizations in North America. The were called the Adena, Hopewell, and Ft Ancient cultures and you can even include the Archaic and Paleo if for nothing else but their Flint knapping skills.
 

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Sorry but other than the small broken China/pottery piece the rest are all natural rocks...




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I am by far an expert but as mentioned in an earlier response, aside from a pottery shaft, sorry bud but these are all natural. Flintknapping is a skill and would be present on truly worked pieces. Others will show signs of percussion-these do not. Keep in mind that there folks on this forum that know more than you and I combined. No need to respond as I know you want someone to agree with your posting. I am sure the after enough responses, someone may call them effigies but the truth is they are natural, period.
 

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By the way, there were ancient highly advanced civilizations in North America. The were called the Adena, Hopewell, and Ft Ancient cultures and you can even include the Archaic and Paleo if for nothing else but their Flint knapping skills.
Did these highly advanced civilization use numbers and letter like we do?

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Did these highly advanced civilization use numbers and letter like we do?

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Numbers maybe, but "a letter", I don't think so.

They sure could form a piece of stone into something easy to recognize though. Way better than them jesuits could.
 

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Say what you will. I believe there is an agenda that wants us to think that there weren't ancient advanced civilizations In North America, they discredit any evidence as soon as it is presented. These rocks have been picked and flaked and shaped by humans from long ago. My favorite is the round clay ball. It was once wrapped in some sort of animal hide and used in a stickball like game. I will not be responding to naysayers. I've done countless hours of research. Thanks for looking.

I can see why you like the round piece best. It's possibly your only actual artifact.......Showing stuff like the rest of that makes me wonder how you can call it evidence of an advanced civilization. I bet grim or someone with some time today will be happy so show some real evidence.

I'm starting to think there is an agenda to make real artifact hunter/collectors look like nuts with all the non-artifact related junk being posted lately.
 

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Say what you will. I believe there is an agenda that wants us to think that there weren't ancient advanced civilizations In North America, they discredit any evidence as soon as it is presented. These rocks have been picked and flaked and shaped by humans from long ago. My favorite is the round clay ball. It was once wrapped in some sort of animal hide and used in a stickball like game. I will not be responding to naysayers. I've done countless hours of research. Thanks for looking.


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Sorry, but as hard as I look I don't see anything hand worked by any intelligent being other than the pottery. The rest of the stuff we use to cover dirt driveways here and it is called gravel.
 

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Did these highly advanced civilization use numbers and letter like we do?

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If you include the Aztecs and Mayans, then yes. Their mathematical calculations were far beyond the knowledge that Europeans had at the same time. Their calendar system was more accurate than ours at the time, they had named and predicted eclipses, comets, full moons, super moons, etc.
 

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"My favorite is the round clay ball. It was once wrapped in some sort of animal hide and used in a stickball like game. I will not be responding to naysayers. I've done countless hours of research. Thanks for looking."

...............I knew Baseball was America's game, but I always thought stick-ball came from baseball, not the other way around.

I'd be more inclined to believe if that round piece were an artifact, it was just a simple game ball, and a nice one. If it was wrapped in hide, and I see nothing to say it was, it was more likely a weapon for cracking skulls than to be pitched and hit.
 

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Sorry, but I am in agreement that these are just rocks and not Native American artifacts. Now the round clay stone could very well have been used as a game ball and depending on where you are at it may have been used in the game of Lacrosse. Wooden and clay balls were used quite often along with heads to play the game.
Lately there have been a lot more posts from people that insist the rocks they are showing are Native American artifacts. When they are told by all of the experienced collectors on here that they are simply rocks, they get offended and insist that they know for a fact what they have are artifacts and not rocks. Last week I googled "Native American Artifacts" and "Native American Stone Effigies" on You Tube and was shocked at so many videos that were rocks instead of artifacts. Over half!!! It was more shocking to read the comments below them. These people are really doing a disservice to everyone in the Native American artifact community. Always, please learn from the many experienced people here. It will make your future hunts more pleasurable.
 

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ancient civilizations do not equate with primitive or unskilled. folks could make, by hand, fantastic items tens of thousands of years ago...hell, homo erectus was making hand axes millions of years ago that are fully recognizable and that I (myself) couldn't recreate with power tools.
 

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I see a lot of rocks, which for the most part are not even of good enough materiel to make an artifact. I think one is a fossilized " Sea Biscuit, " though.
 

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By the way, there were ancient highly advanced civilizations in North America. The were called the Adena, Hopewell, and Ft Ancient cultures and you can even include the Archaic and Paleo if for nothing else but their Flint knapping skills.

As well as the Ancestral Puebloan(Anasazi), and, the largest metropolis in prehistoric America, Cahokia, which was very cosmopolitan, with it's residents arriving from all over....
 

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Did these highly advanced civilization use numbers and letter like we do?

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Well, Mexico is part of North America, and the civilizations that arose there had alphabets. The Mayans, who inhabited both North America and Central America, were among the greatest mathematicians and astronomers of ancient times. Invented the concept of zero in fact. So yeah, they knew what numbers were. And the Mayan calender was far more accurate then any calender used in Europe at the time. So, to answer your question, yep, they sure did.
 

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Most if not all of the stone in which you posted about aren't hard enough to hold an edge let alone be strong enough to throw in a fire and knap. The round ball may be an artifact of simply something natural that rolled around at the bottom of a creek. Looks like a lot of creeks tone so assuming was found near the water.
 

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Say what you will. I believe there is an agenda that wants us to think that there weren't ancient advanced civilizations In North America, they discredit any evidence as soon as it is presented. These rocks have been picked and flaked and shaped by humans from long ago. My favorite is the round clay ball. It was once wrapped in some sort of animal hide and used in a stickball like game. I will not be responding to naysayers. I've done countless hours of research. Thanks for looking.

I can see why you like the round piece best. It's possibly your only actual artifact.......Showing stuff like the rest of that makes me wonder how you can call it evidence of an advanced civilization. I bet grim or someone with some time today will be happy so show some real evidence.

I'm starting to think there is an agenda to make real artifact hunter/collectors look like nuts with all the non-artifact related junk being posted lately.

Seeing so many people, of late, arrive here with the attitude "my rocks are artifacts, and don't even think of telling me otherwise", I am beginning to wonder the very same thing, quito. It's really an extremely irrational mind set such folks bring to the table. It's as if they consider any and every effort to educate them an assault on their being.
 

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