(Alligator) Effigy Piece?

[Indiana_acklac]

what's the history of where it was found?

Found in a sediment/substrate retention pile on a small creek within 1/4 mile of 3 documented Adena mounds.

 

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[Indiana_acklac]

why did you post it here if you feel no one has any experience?

I never, ever said that.

This site is an amazing resource.

 

[Indiana_acklac]

But you always fail to listen.

To responses that automatically assume and lack reason? Yes.

 

[Indiana_acklac]

I'm a River Fisherman, I study Rivers a lot.

Does anyone else get what I'm talking about with "Retention Piles?"

Or is this something the Archeological community has completely overlooked?

 

[JKicker]

I never, ever said that.

This site is an amazing resource.

You say this place is an amazing resource yet you disagree with everyone in it. You have a rock, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Indiana_acklac]

You say this place is an amazing resource yet you disagree with everyone in it. You have a rock, nothing more, nothing less.

I disagree with most, not all.

You have a bunch of NA guys commenting on pieces that likely aren't NA. I don't blame them a bit.

"NA-Speaking" they're 100% correct...

 

[JKicker]

I disagree with most, not all.

You have a bunch of NA guys commenting on pieces that likely aren't NA. I don't blame them a bit.

"NA-Speaking" they're 100% correct...

Why did you post it in a NA forum?

 

[Indiana_acklac]

Why did you post it in a NA forum?

Is there a Pre-NA forum to post in? (again, not to be facetious...)

 

[JKicker]

Is there a Pre-NA forum to post in? (again, not to be facetious...)

How would a pre-NA piece be associated with 3 adena sites 1/4 mile away from where you found it?

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Is there a Pre-NA forum to post in? (again, not to be facetious...)

Are you inferring pre Clovis pieces?

 

[Indiana_acklac]

How would a pre-NA piece be associated with 3 adena sites 1/4 mile away from where you found it?

Who all that has responded to this post is an expert in Adena/Pre-Adena peoples?

 

[Indiana_acklac]

Are you inferring pre Clovis pieces?

Let me guess, I'm going to respond "yes", then you're going to show me all of your "worked" pieces (that were made solely for hunting) and claim you're an expert, right?

 

[JKicker]

Who all that has responded to this post is an expert in Adena/Pre-Adena peoples?

So you've pulled a rock that is an archaic or paleo effigy based solely on context that it was found in a river not far from an adena site? Burden of proof is on you, not the other people on this forum to state their credentials.

 

[Indiana_acklac]

So you've pulled a rock that is an archaic or paleo effigy based solely on context that it was found in a river not far from an adena site? Burden of proof is on you, not the other people on this forum to state their credentials.

True. But I'm curious....

 

[JKicker]

True. But I'm curious....

And when people list their credentials, years of field studies, years of scholastic studies in preshistoric people of north america, then tell you its a rock, what will your next response be? It must be older then, maybe extraterrestrial?

Keep in mind, your original argument was the association with adena sites.

 

[Indiana_acklac]

And when people list their credentials, years of field studies, years of scholastic studies in preshistoric people of north america, then tell you its a rock, what will your next response be? It must be older then, maybe extraterrestrial?

Keep in mind, your original argument was the association with adena sites.

My next response would be to meet them in person and go over the finite details of a few of the things I've found.

Can you tell I've done this before?

 

[Indiana_acklac]

I'm a River Fisherman, I study Rivers a lot.

Does anyone else get what I'm talking about with "Retention Piles?"

Or is this something the Archeological community has completely overlooked?

Seriously, I almost went to School for Hydraulic Engineering. I study Rivers (and sediment distribution).

Does anyone here have a clue what I'm talking about? (Honestly, this is something I think a lot of you are missing out on).

 

[sandchip]

Pride goeth before the grim realization that it is indeed only a rock.

 

[Indiana_acklac]

Pride goeth before the grim realization that it is indeed only a rock.

Because Pride is everything in this focus...

Sad.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Let me guess, I'm going to respond "yes", then you're going to show me all of your "worked" pieces (that were made solely for hunting) and claim you're an expert, right?

Well considering Grim has been hunting decades before you were born the answer is yes.

There are over 1700 years of Native American Artifact experience here and yet you challenge every time someone tells you your rock is simply a rock. You have also insulted the forum and called it's members narrow minded because they want agree with your rocks.

"your original post was "Anyone else see it? The scale-pattern on the body, the narrow (angled) head, the mouth (bottom)? Is that orange pigment ochre? Or just another rock". Multiple members have answered your question, just another rock.