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  1. #1

    Aug 2007
    2

    Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    Hi Guys,
    I've just joined and am looking into Sidescan and Magnetometers for amateur shipwreck searching.

    I'm located in Sydney, Australia - a lot of the wrecks in question are steam ships or WWII wrecks built over the last century.

    Depths up to about 500 feet.

    We're experienced deep wreck divers, have borrowed a basic magnetometer 10 years ago and would appreciate an update re. the state of play at the moment. Ideally pros, cons, costs, suggestions etc.

    Thanks for your help (and sorry if this sort of thread has already been posted in the past).

    Cheers,

    John

  2. #2
    us
    Jul 2007
    Hollywood, Florida
    438

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    www.quantrosensing.com has mags that normal people can afford. J.W. Fishers has excellent units but you must be spending OPM (other people's money).

    Chip V.

  3. #3
    Peter

    Apr 2005
    Vancouver BC
    35

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    Sidescan and Magnetometers;

    I have used pretty much every type of sidescan and mag in the professional market. Love to help.

    If you adopt a professional attitude and do a survey correctly, your chances of success go way way up. The best way to look for any type of submerged contact, wherein you may have to search several dozen or hundred square kilometers, is with combined sidescan and mag. The most important thing is to make sure you use a sonar processor to generate 2-D sidescan mosaics with a magnetic field map draped over the sonar. You will be instantly able to define your targets, spot debris trails, and determine the best places to dig with great accuracy. Without that step, your chances of success are extremely limited.

    Mag;
    For wreck detection, you should use a 'differential gradiometer' and not just a simple magnetic sensor. The differential gradiometer is a device that uses several very sensitive magnetic sensors in a small grid. The device looks for the 'difference' between the magnetic field strength on the sensors, and thus, it can ignore local geological magnetic signatures and respond mostly to man made contacts. This is the best one;. Have used them many times, works extremely well.

    http://www.marinemagnetics.com/

    Sidescan;

    GeoAcoustics (sidescan, also sells sonar processors that can do the above)
    www.geoacoustics.com
    Excellent sidescan units, the older analog units work extremely well also.

    EdgeTech; - also, excellent sidescan units
    http://www.edgetech.com/

    http://www.l-3com.com
    I have used their model 3000 with very good results


    Hope that helps.
    Underwater search & recovery consultant
    Sonar specialist

  4. #4

    Oct 2007
    Bimini, Bahamas & Atlanta, GA
    Fisher 8-x, Garrett Sea Hunter
    37

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    What kind of sonar processing are you using? Can it be used universally I have a poor boy set-up hummingbird & quantro sensing mag.

    Thanks

  5. #5
    Peter

    Apr 2005
    Vancouver BC
    35

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    Sorry Cliffscot.

    The hummingbird unit has no facility to export data, and that means it can't be used with any type of sonar processor.

    P
    Underwater search & recovery consultant
    Sonar specialist

  6. #6
    Charter Member
    us
    Pirate of the Martires

    Feb 2005
    Pinellas Park, Florida
    Aquapulse, J.W. Fisher Proton 3, Pulse Star II
    2,018
    4 times
    Shipwrecks

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    Sorry Ping,
    the Humminbird DOES have a memory card to export data. There is also excellent software to process the data. This has all been posted on the "shipwreck" forum. http://www.forum.treasurenet.com/ind...,124276.0.html.
    Preserving Maritime History for Future Generations

  7. #7
    Peter

    Apr 2005
    Vancouver BC
    35

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    Yes, you are right!

    I just found what you mentioned. I hereby hang my head down in shame and repent . .

    Sorry, I have used the Humminbird sonar before and wasn't very impressed. However, it is cheap.

    The Tritech 'starfish' has much, much better performance and doesn't cost a whole lot more. Check that out before you get into a Humminbird sidescan.

    P
    Underwater search & recovery consultant
    Sonar specialist

  8. #8
    Charter Member
    us
    Pirate of the Martires

    Feb 2005
    Pinellas Park, Florida
    Aquapulse, J.W. Fisher Proton 3, Pulse Star II
    2,018
    4 times
    Shipwrecks

    Re: Sidescan & Magnetometer for Newbies

    Hey ping, could you post a link to the Tritech web site. I can't find it.
    Preserving Maritime History for Future Generations

 

 

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