Discovery ch. Gold Rush Alaska

[mts]

episode 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTv7khbOJQ

I can't believe how easily they gave up on the wave table. Then they decided to pan the concentrates using complete novices. No telling how much gold they missed! It just looked to me like they were in too big of a hurry to a proper job of clean up.

That model wave table sells for around $5,000.00 and the old man was ready to toss it. I've never used one but I can relate to the difficulty in getting any fine gold recovery tool adjusted properly, just from my experience using a blue bowl and a spiral wheel.

Knowing it was going to be used on tv the dealer should have been on hand to see it was properly set up or else had a factory rep there.
Glad they sent the women and kids home though. And can you believe the hissy fit thrown by Dorsey and Remsburg

It really is like a train wreck......It hurts to watch, but you cant take your eyes off it.
GG~

It also looked like the vial of gold they did produce was about 50% black sand. They didn't do a very good job of panning.

The one interesting story they shared was about the guy who had recovered 700 ounces of gold from his cleanout many years ago (he lived in the area). They found him dead that night and his gold (worth about $1M today) was nowhere to be found. Forgive me if I messed up the numbers. I'm doing it from memory. But you get the idea.

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[Goodyguy]

It also looked like the vial of gold they did produce was about 50% black sand. They didn't do a very good job of panning.

The one interesting story they shared was about the guy who had recovered 700 ounces of gold from his cleanout many years ago (he lived in the area). They found him dead that night and his gold (worth about $1M today) was nowhere to be found. Forgive me if I messed up the numbers. I'm doing it from memory. But you get the idea.

What was the old man doing by himself with the gold in the tent? Burying his share

It all goes back to what KlondikeIke said about knowing where the high value dirt was to be had in the first place and then running that to get some cash flowing their way.

Ive also heard that some miners send their concentrates out to be refined professionally for maximum results. Due to being able to reclaim the microscopic gold as well.

GG~

[mcscs]

You Know I enjoy the show. But it's getting a little too unbelievable. I thought the mechanic was one of the few worthwhile people on the show. till he pulled that gun. that is just ridiculous. If it was scripted and I hope so. He could have simply said I'm not doing it. Just made him look very simpleminded.

You're right about the wave table

JIM DORSEY is starting to sound like a crybaby on his blog.
And he was my favorite. He added a lot more information and the new characters
also check this out.
Jacks home sweet home
http://www.wweek.com/portland/articl...sweet_home.htm

Well off to a Epidural which is worse the back pain or the spike.

[GrayCloud]

I too wonder why he alone had access to the final tally.

As to the wave table, of which I dang sure am not an expert, did you see how deep they had the concentrates? No way the table could work as overloaded as they had it. The table is not designed to hold a half yard of material at one time. Tom's big table up in Alaska is only fed on small scoop at a time and it is three times the size of this one. And, why did they wait till the lassst minute to install it. If they were in such a money crunch, why did they not just use some cleanup sluices? Did they not already have buckets of concentrates lined up to separate?
Dorsey is gone, now lets see who is too blame, not say he was not responsible of some of their fiasco's.

[Goodyguy]

Lots of inside stuff that explains about the real goings on behind the scenes, plus all about the wave table fiasco:
http://www.goldminingrealityshow.com/

And........
http://joydorsey.wordpress.com/


Looks like season two is going to pit two separate crews against one another.
Perhaps with Dorsey in charge of one of the crews

[TheHarleyMan2]

I read some of Dorsey's blogging. We ALL know that when Discovery came about that everyone was going to get some money for the show. Plain and simple, it is called television, sponsors, etc. So whether the show is scripted or not. People on there are getting money. And of course, there has to be actors/players for the drama, etc to get the ratings and make it a reality show.

So regardless if Dorsey's role was to be the greenhorn who would be let go after a few episodes so that is teh script.

Now, think about this. When they did Axe Men, Deadliest Catch, there were different teams. So if Dorsey is going out to build another team, heck count me in, regardless of what anyone else says. Fact is whether you find gold or not, (it would be nice to find gold, tons of it), but also getting a hefty steady paycheck just for being aired on the show.

Don't know what else anyone thinks, but I would go with Dorsey, build and put together another team. After all any team other than the Hoffman Bozo's already there has to be a much needed improvement!!!!!!

Wouldn't that bee cool? A team better than the fly-by-night Hoffman bozo's and we find more gold than they do!!!!
SWEEEEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!! Count me in!!!!!

[Goodyguy]

Don't know what else anyone thinks, but I would go with Dorsey, build and put together another team. After all any team other than the Hoffman Bozo's already there has to be a much needed improvement!!!!!!

Wouldn't that bee cool? A team better than the fly-by-night Hoffman bozo's and we find more gold than they do!!!!
SWEEEEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!! Count me in!!!!!

Pretty sure you have to play an instrument and sing country/western music to be on Dorsey's crew
They may not find any gold but they are going to have fun trying.

Actually I was impressed when Jimmy D. said he was learning how to do core sample drilling

[GrayCloud]

Dangit, Can't play or sing. But I can dang sure layout and put equipment together better than this group.

I just don't understand why Dorsey's are saying they received no money for the show. How can you be a cast member and not be paid?

[Goodyguy]

Dangit, Can't play or sing. But I can dang sure layout and put equipment together better than this group.

I just don't understand why Dorsey's are saying they received no money for the show. How can you be a cast member and not be paid?

It seems "the crew" were to be paid pro rata based upon the skills they brought to the table, Dorsey being the lowest paid ($1,000.00 per episode) with Harness being the highest paid. Dorsey says he still has not been paid all that is due him.

The Hoffmans (Todd and Jack) received the lion share because the show was their idea.

GG~

[TheHarleyMan2]

Don't know what else anyone thinks, but I would go with Dorsey, build and put together another team. After all any team other than the Hoffman Bozo's already there has to be a much needed improvement!!!!!!

Wouldn't that bee cool? A team better than the fly-by-night Hoffman bozo's and we find more gold than they do!!!!
SWEEEEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!! Count me in!!!!!

Pretty sure you have to play an instrument and sing country/western music to be on Dorsey's crew
They may not find any gold but they are going to have fun trying.

Oh I've been playing guitar for 34 years off and on. Mostly I play is classic rock, but I even got some of my own tunes. So I can DEFINITELY BE ON Dorsey's Team!!!

Here is a picture of my babies!!

[Goodyguy]

Oh I've been playing guitar for 34 years off and on. Mostly I play is classic rock, but I even got some of my own tunes. So I can DEFINITELY BE ON Dorsey's Team!!!

Here is a picture of my babies!!

I guess since you have so much equipment perhaps you will let me sign on as your "grip"
My harmonica will fit in my pocket.

[TheHarleyMan2]

Oh I've been playing guitar for 34 years off and on. Mostly I play is classic rock, but I even got some of my own tunes. So I can DEFINITELY BE ON Dorsey's Team!!!

Here is a picture of my babies!!

I guess since you have so much equipment perhaps you will let me sign on as your "grip"
My harmonica will fit in my pocket.

Hey that's cool with me!!! I think several of us here ought to get together and head to Alaska, maybe if we can't get on Dorsey's team, maybe we can put our own together. After all, Axe Men, and Deadliest Catch usually has about 4-8 teams out there doing the same thing, competing with each other!!!

[Goodyguy]

Hey that's cool with me!!! I think several of us here ought to get together and head to Alaska, maybe if we can't get on Dorsey's team, maybe we can put our own together. After all, Axe Men, and Deadliest Catch usually has about 4-8 teams out there doing the same thing, competing with each other!!!

On one condition..... as long as Klondikeike is on our team.
GreyCloud you can provide the financing and join up after your year in Tulsa.

[mcscs]

the way I read it the deal was Todd and Jack signed the contract with discovery. Then contracting with the other guys individually. And its Todd and JACK that all responsible for PAYING the others. I'm sure discovery would rather have it that way so that they don't have to deal with a bunch of other people.



Dorsey mentioned Jack takes morphine for chronic back pain. So when James Harnes ran out. Why did they make in suffer for four days instead giving some of Jack's until his prescription could be filled. The reason morphine is used for chronic back pain the dosage can be control easily for the individual and is much less damaging than other drugs. Opiates basically are better drug for long-term use. That's why a Heroin addict in easily live 25 years on the drug

I still enjoy the show and feel it will be much more exciting with 2 teams
Had to make six corrections to this post. Just back from getting an epidural and yes more morphine!!!! And I am using voice recognition so I don't have to type

mcscs but I'm happy PAIN FREE FOR NOW i think

[tapoutking]

Klondikeike has taught me more about finding gold than every book I have ever read.

[mcscs]

I agree that love watching the machinery I wish it would give a more detailed look.
I've been goole ing everything to see how it works. The scenery is unbelievable. I wish they would do it like dangerous catch, I mean deadliest, and a loging show more working and scenes of the machinery with explanations
I guess that's from being a chief engineer on a tug for 20 years. Sure can't figure out how they ran out out fuel I guess it's because if I did that we be in the sh##T
MCSVS


OK AM I can see on getting like a drunk getting home late at night and picking up the phone
c u thurday nite

[TheHarleyMan2]

On one condition..... as long as Klondikeike is on our team.
GreyCloud you can provide the financing and join up after your year in Tulsa.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!!!!!!!!! I AM SERIOUS!!! We ought to put a team together and go for it. I don't have anything else to do except research all day long on the computer and play Army once a month which that can be rearranged!

One thing I figured is to cut down on fuels to operate equipment, and housing, the team needs to put forth the equal amount of funds and get solar panels installed to operate some of the things like living quarters, power, etc. That would cut fuel costs down below 3/4 of operation and leave the fuels for neccessary motorized equipment like excavators, vehicles, and some of the mining equipment.

$15,000-$20,000 for solar panels installed compared to double the amount spent for fuel costs for the season for equipment. You know if that generator is running to provide power for the buildings, and anything else running is going to consume more fuel than the costs of solar panels.

[Goodyguy]

On one condition..... as long as Klondikeike is on our team.
GreyCloud you can provide the financing and join up after your year in Tulsa.

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!!!!!!!!! I AM SERIOUS!!! We ought to put a team together and go for it. I don't have anything else to do except research all day long on the computer and play Army once a month which that can be rearranged!

One thing I figured is to cut down on fuels to operate equipment, and housing, the team needs to put forth the equal amount of funds and get solar panels installed to operate some of the things like living quarters, power, etc. That would cut fuel costs down below 3/4 of operation and leave the fuels for neccessary motorized equipment like excavators, vehicles, and some of the mining equipment.

$15,000-$20,000 for solar panels installed compared to double the amount spent for fuel costs for the season for equipment. You know if that generator is running to provide power for the buildings, and anything else running is going to consume more fuel than the costs of solar panels.

Ouch..... I was just planing on staying in my van to cut costs.
That and eating Beareatoes for Beareckfast

Sorry ..... I cant go.......Like GrayCloud I have commitments until 2012

I like the solar panel idea though especially when it's daylight until midnight.
Is it cloudy much in Alaska?

In some States the total cost of installed solar panels are tax deductible. I would have to check the tax code in Alaska to see what tax credits, grants, or rebates are offered there. Federal tax credits are now 30%.

[TheHarleyMan2]

I don't know GG, but from the episodes there should be enough sun light to run solar panels.

I got a few cases of MRE's that should last me for a couple of months, also plug me up pretty good in case I can't find a crapper anywhere!!!!

I figured there should be enough trees around, bring my chainsaw and make a log cabin instead of a fancy house or living in a tent. Should be pretty easy to do and get some metal roofing for the roof!

[Goodyguy]

I don't know GG, but from the episodes there should be enough sun light to run solar panels.

I got a few cases of MRE's that should last me for a couple of months, also plug me up pretty good in case I can't find a crapper anywhere!!!!

I figured there should be enough trees around, bring my chainsaw and make a log cabin instead of a fancy house or living in a tent. Should be pretty easy to do and get some metal roofing for the roof!

Just borrow my old motor home complete with crapper