Jan 21, 2013, 12:13 AM
The best way to get great panning gold, and to maximize your panning experience is to order the size of placer gold you want to pan (perhaps a variety of flakes, pickers, and a select nugget or two), pay for exactly the gold you want in your order--then, get some gravelly dirt and mix your own!
That way you'll never get less than what you expect. In fact, you'll get exactly what you expect. So, there's no surprise right? Exactly, but you won't get a bad surprise when you've paid for shipping, handling, and you get a measly grain (g-r-a-i-n) of gold instead of a gram or more.
If you read the fine print carefully on the panning dirt suppliers that are forthcoming enough to include it on their ads, you will notice that they guarantee a minimum amount of gold. They do that for a reason--so you can't complain that you didn't get some unexpected bonanza in your dirt. A lot of suppliers sell you on the "sizzle" that you "might" get an unexpected bonanza of gold. Unrealistic hoo-hah--an old fishing tactic to get you to bite.
The reality is if they did that on any kind of a regular business--they'd go broke in a big hurry.
So, if you want to buy pre-mixed panning dirt, get a statement on the minimum amount of gold they guarantee and don't be surprised if you don't get a micro-grain more!!
Buy your own placer flake, picker, nugget gold--mix it with gravel and enjoy exactly what you've paid for. You wouldn't order a car off the Internet with the "chance" that there'd be an engine in it, or a computer with a chance that there'd be a harddrive in it. No way. You want to get what you've paid for--not gamble that you might get what you want.
Do the same with panning dirt--buy the gold and mix your own--satisfaction 100% guaranteed! (Nothing romantic, or pie in the sky bonanza about it, but it's reliable each and every time.)
All the best,
Jan 21, 2013 12:13 AM
Jan 21, 2013, 06:40 AM
Feb 25, 2013, 02:11 PM
I've used JandJ several times and had zero problems with them. They answered my calls and emails right away. The products arrived in time and they even went out of their way to do some special requests for me. The paydirt I've used from them wasn't crazy rich, but it's advertised as untouched and unsalted. I feel like I got what was advertised and was satisfied with my purchases.
Originally Posted by chucktownkid
It also seems a bit odd that this is the only post made by this person. Not saying it's impossible for someone to have had a bad purchase with them, just thought I'd share my experiences with them.
Oct 28, 2013, 01:08 PM
27 Years Experience
Buying commercially prepared concentrates is absolutely the way to go. Believe me, you do not want to go out into the wilds and prospect for gold. While it may seem alluring, reality is quite an eye opener. It is nothing like what you see on TV, or in the movies. For the most part, it is back breaking work for less than fair pay. I have found Alaska Nome Gold to be the fairest in the market when it comes to money paid versus gold received. The other big companies have a very high overhead with their advertising. Usually the ones that complain about others prospecting "the easy way", have never done it the hard way.
Oct 29, 2013, 03:13 PM
Paydirt is only good for the novice panner. It's good practice and I would recommend buying some actual gold like doc does. He pays 90% of spot and then you can put it in your own dirt and learn to pan. But if your just hoping to get lucky on paydirt I wish you luck. This database type approach will shed some light on the who's who in the paydirt market. Good luck
Oct 29, 2013, 04:09 PM
the groper of gravel
Time for me to weigh in on the subject. When I first became interested in the idea of prospecting for gold, I truly had many of these same thoughts. I couldn't wrap my head around the idea of paying the shipping cost for sending pounds of dirt across the country. It made more sense for me to order some sample gold and get my own dirt to use for panning practice and when needed to test out my sluice box contraptions and designs. By purchasing the gold alone, I knew what I was getting, no surprises and felt very protected from being ripped off. At the time I was living in South Carolina and traveling for work from western NC, down to southern GA. I was literally in the gold belt as well as the bible belt, so finding paydirt of my own to process was within the realm of possibility. However my health went sour and my lady and I were forced to relocate to the north east, Southbridge MA. where I have no idea if there has ever been gold found. If so it would probably be placer gold and very deep. ( dredge stuff) Like I said, my health has taken a hit and although I hope to recover towards Christmas, Going out prospecting isn't looking possible until spring ( if the good lord is willing and so kind).. Then I came across this thread and I thought, what a brilliant idea!!!! I could order some paydirt and play during my none DR visit days and still have some fun. ( It might even help to keep my spirits up). And not knowing exactly what I might find would add to the excitement for me. So I can't wait to see some results. Great idea!!!!!!
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Oct 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
I just saw an episode of gold fever and Tom was talking about meeting someone at an outing who said that the all-purpose sand at local hardware stores in LA have gold because the sand comes from the base of the mountains there. So he bought 3 two dollar bags and ran them through a sluice during the show. There was actually gold in there. He said it was about 30 dollars of gold from 6 dollars of sand. I had visions of driving a uhaul truck to LA and loading up and hauling it back to Oklahoma. I could get gold and turn my back yard into a sand dune recreational area (for Tonka toys).
Oct 29, 2013, 07:28 PM
Just another Guy In Back
Since the thread is alive again...
I've purchased paydirt. I buy it knowing I will not make money on the amount of gold in the dirt.
If a seller checks the dirt and finds $5 of gold a pound, and can sell the dirt for $20- uhhhhh.... think about it.... come on, it will make sense... give it a minute...
So, knowing this, I bought it to refine my skills with gold in dirt. I've added sand, rocks, lead and the like and had a good deal of practice.
If you think the seller has gold bearing dirt worth $30 a pound, and he is going to part with it for $20 a pound...
Seriously- your original question.
There is no right way to do something wrong.
Oct 30, 2013, 07:59 AM
I tried selling my dredge cons on ebay but had no takers. What I was trying was this...I ran the dirt through my clean up sluice and recovered the gold. Then I would dry out the cons and remix them together -18,+20,-20,-30 and then would weight out the gold at 1.1 grams and remix with the cons. I was trying to sell at 100% of spot plus shipping of $6 but after 3 weeks I had no takers so I gave up. I guess people don't want a guaranteed thing, they would rather spend more money on chance. Granted I had no feed back on selling cons but have 100% positive no the less.
Oct 30, 2013, 09:27 AM
Crevice Vac, Royal Gold Drywasher, Royal 18" Pick, Miller Table, Gold Bug Pro, Sun Ray Gold Pro Headphones, Blue Bowl-Fossickers Fine Gold Recovery System, 12" Custom Gas Powered Trommel, Google Earth, and so much more that my wife does not know about, LOL.
Can't remember what state it was but Home Depot had a run on their 1/2 ton bags of sand they sale. Seems someone was finding a good amount of gold. Before long HD had ran out of bags as the purchasers were not returning the bags that they had left a deposit on. Ok everyone go buy your sand at HD so my 17,000 shares of HD stock continues to climb, its a +$0.72 per share as of 7:44am. Keep buying the sand as my wallet is growing without digging.
Your paying a huge price buying paydirt, do the math. As Lanny mentioned go buy your gold and pepper your own dirt if you need the thrill of panning offseason. You will be further ahead and the outcome is the same. If this does not work for you have someone else do the peppering so you have no clue how much gold is in the paydirt.
Last edited by AzViper; Oct 30, 2013 at 09:52 AM.
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Jan 11, 2014, 05:47 PM
So whatever happened, did this website ever get made?
Jan 12, 2014, 07:54 AM
Blake, Thank you for your reply and for finding this post.
I posted yesterday, looking for good paydirt. I have a vacation rental property, I want to give free paydirt to my guests, giving them an awesome panning experience with their vacation. Something for them to do on rainy days.
I'm experimenting with how to do it and sourcing material. I'll go through a decent amount creating this idea and then should be consistent ongoing.
Any honest info on sourcing paydirt, cons, and placer/pickers/nuggets is very much appreciated. I'll probably be using all three strategies.
Thank you, Scout160
Jan 14, 2014, 10:06 PM
Going out into the wilds prospecting is as good as life gets!
I am a teacher, hydrologist, biologist and a prospector.
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