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I couldn't go last year so I went yesterday, There was so much stuff for sale and the lectures were cool. Didn't learn much new info I did confirm some beliefs however. Talked to club orginizer, geologist,the guy from Roaring camp,Mining engineer who was there and the guys from W.M.A. and they all concur just as my research has that powersluicing is legal and there is no permit needed....as long as you are following the settling pond turbidity edicate you are fine.the water board stuff that popped up recently( but, was written years ago and is just a weird repost) is as I said before not geared towards the small scale or rec. miner. In fact if I go and try to apply for this permit I can't. If required you would not be able to trommel either. if your one of the big ops and running equipment have an N.O.I. and P.O.A. you are most likely gonna have to deal with the waterboard. Fact the hands on outing Friday and Monday Colfax area.... washplant, Trommel, several powersluices, all running water coming from a natural Riparian source.......NO PERMIT IN PLACE!!!!! This outing has been planned, and advertized with photos of said operation for months in the open if "THEY" are watching why would they not jump on such an easy target
? The geologist did say that the F.S. in El Dorado County and Nevada co. say you need it but, they don't really know what they're talking about as usual. He is a consultant and deals with this daily and says NO ONE has been Ticketed. So Hoser don't jump on me cause I know you have seen different. He gave me his direct line and told me if I or anyone I know gets hassled to contact him right away cause it would be the first citation he knows of and will help fight it in court. The other thing I learned was that the guys trying to sale stuff knew the least.....I was told by an equipment dealer (from Redding Sorry Oates) that I cant stake a claim on a river....and that If i was mining a claim the waterboard permit wasn't needed but, if I was on Private property i would get busted. I went and sought out this face to face info to bring it here and for myself because since the dredge ban I have been power sluicing and when that waterboard stuff came up i got a little worried though as soon as i looked into it a bit i felt it wasn't quite what it seemed and now I have Industry experts who agree. Hoser I respect you But, you have a tendency to be condescending maybe you mean it maybe you don't , I want this post/thread to be a way for guys like me to discuss this issue so please be tactful with any comment you make.If you have info to add especially about people being busted I would appreciate first hand info not hearsay and stuff seen on T.V. Not tryin to sound rude I have just put some time into this and Don't want any responses that make it sound like I have not. Thank everyone in advance for reading and responding........lets see who rips me a new one first.........
? The geologist did say that the F.S. in El Dorado County and Nevada co. say you need it but, they don't really know what they're talking about as usual. He is a consultant and deals with this daily and says NO ONE has been Ticketed. So Hoser don't jump on me cause I know you have seen different. He gave me his direct line and told me if I or anyone I know gets hassled to contact him right away cause it would be the first citation he knows of and will help fight it in court. The other thing I learned was that the guys trying to sale stuff knew the least.....I was told by an equipment dealer (from Redding Sorry Oates) that I cant stake a claim on a river....and that If i was mining a claim the waterboard permit wasn't needed but, if I was on Private property i would get busted. I went and sought out this face to face info to bring it here and for myself because since the dredge ban I have been power sluicing and when that waterboard stuff came up i got a little worried though as soon as i looked into it a bit i felt it wasn't quite what it seemed and now I have Industry experts who agree. Hoser I respect you But, you have a tendency to be condescending maybe you mean it maybe you don't , I want this post/thread to be a way for guys like me to discuss this issue so please be tactful with any comment you make.If you have info to add especially about people being busted I would appreciate first hand info not hearsay and stuff seen on T.V. Not tryin to sound rude I have just put some time into this and Don't want any responses that make it sound like I have not. Thank everyone in advance for reading and responding........lets see who rips me a new one first.........
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........I do know you are the most fed up Miner on here do to your experiences. Like i said I respect you alot and sense of Humor doesnt always come across well on posts. I was trying to wrangle a little more indepth info from you as far as peoples dealings with the waterboard stuff in ur Neckadawoods. I don't go for the MEG stuff Didn't talk to P.L.P at the show for good reason KNEW GPAA (BUZZARD YOUR SONS ARE A SHAME) and NEW 49ers wouldn't be there either. However I knew people were and are powersluicing at orginized events without permits and werent getting busted. Kuger where are you?Have you discussed this more since you are dealing with it in your certifacation thingy? John sorry for soundin like Senior Richard Cabeza just pre Ribbin ya....Fellas chime in......are there really that many armchair guys just lurking......who has been Banking
and Q3 there would be alot of dredgers in one spot getting tickets and not helping at all.This thread is not about dredging or the dredge ban....please DO NOT discuss dredging here.Its like this If there is nothing you can do then theres nothing you can do....However if you believe your right then be persistant and keep fighting...But if you openly break the rules and essentially stop fighting and show that your gonna do what you want regardless....your just giving the people who enforce the rules someone to target.Besides that it has been proven time and again thet the small scale mining/Rec(taboo) mining community is not and does for some reason want to be orginized.... proven by the fact that of all the people at the Mining Summit so far I am am the only one saying anything..... i know Tnet isnt the #1 prospecting sight ButIi see alot of common posters on other sites. Equipment dealers DID NOT have a total grasp of regulations that is (sorry P.C. people) ******ed....PERIOD....You dont sell Fishing lures and not know, if, where, when, you can fish its kinda sad. Mining clubs that are runnig operations that pump water to sluices, and trommels are not getting busted because they are following the rules and are doing nothing different from years past.. because the rules regarding such operations...operated by such said folks have not change in the last few years...
sorry i meant stupid....or lame or Dumb.
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While i got you I bought a house on 2+ acres and at the eastern edge i have an old pocket mine and as i was digging and putting in my fence for my dog run im pulling lots of rusty quartz nothing is coming up on my goldmaster and i havnt smashed anything yet, but you seem to have a knack for sheer and contact zones. And you find stufff with a detector that Hoser would call a little toy for a little boy if it wasn't for the fact that you were finding color that some newb with the bread wouldn't find with a minelab so if you are not to busy shoot me a P.M. cause i would like to pick your brain for a second.I believe i am on an epithermal deposit i would like to discuss the things you look for before you start doing the things you do that keep you from getting to your truck after the sun goes down.
