Endangered Species coming to So Cal

[Oakview2]

[h=2]Federal Judge Orders Species Protection in the ANF[/h]This week on June 28, 2011, U.S. District Court judge Marilyn Hall Patel ordered the U.S. National Forest Service, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, and the National Marine Fisheries Service to take “all necessary measures” to better protect 40 endangered species. The order specifically covers the Angeles, Cleveland, Los Padres and San Bernadino National Forests in Southern California.
The agencies have been given six months to develop a long-term strategy to protect 40 endangered species. The order came as a result of a lawsuit by the Center for Biological Diversity, who claimed the Forest Management Plans for the respective forests failed to provide adequate protection for these endangered species. The species include the Santa Ana Sucker, the Arroyo toad, the California Gnatcatcher and the California Condor, among others.
Recently hopes had been raised for the opening of the Williamson Rock closure which has been in effect since 2005 to protect the Mountain Yellow-Legged Frog. That is now highly unlikely and construction that was taking place in the area has been halted. There are less than 200 known individuals of this species left in a few select pockets in the San Gabriel mountains. The Williamson Rock closure affects Hikers, and has shut off access to climbers who regard the rock as one of the premier sport climbing destinations in Southern California.

 

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[dredgeman]

[h=2]Federal Judge Orders Species Protection in the ANF[/h]This week on June 28, 2011, U.S. District Court judge Marilyn Hall Patel ordered the U.S. National Forest Service, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, and the National Marine Fisheries Service to take “all necessary measures” to better protect 40 endangered species. The order specifically covers the Angeles, Cleveland, Los Padres and San Bernadino National Forests in Southern California.
The agencies have been given six months to develop a long-term strategy to protect 40 endangered species. The order came as a result of a lawsuit by the Center for Biological Diversity, who claimed the Forest Management Plans for the respective forests failed to provide adequate protection for these endangered species. The species include the Santa Ana Sucker, the Arroyo toad, the California Gnatcatcher and the California Condor, among others.
Recently hopes had been raised for the opening of the Williamson Rock closure which has been in effect since 2005 to protect the Mountain Yellow-Legged Frog. That is now highly unlikely and construction that was taking place in the area has been halted. There are less than 200 known individuals of this species left in a few select pockets in the San Gabriel mountains. The Williamson Rock closure affects Hikers, and has shut off access to climbers who regard the rock as one of the premier sport climbing destinations in Southern California.

Great info Oak
That's about 5-10 down and only 700 more listings ready to go. This is the beginning push of closing the Sierra Nevada to everyone but a select group.

I expect them to release a flood of listings all at once to overwhelm those of us that are trying to oppose the loss of rights for everyone.

 

[Lanny in AB]

I think the real endangered species in all of this is the human being that wants to enjoy the outdoors. If things keep going the way they are, pretty soon the only outdoor area you'll be able to enjoy is your lawn, and that might even be too much to expect.

All the best,

Lanny

 

[dredgeman]

I think the real endangered species in all of this is the human being that wants to enjoy the outdoors. If things keep going the way they are, pretty soon the only outdoor area you'll be able to enjoy is your lawn, and that might even be too much to expect.

All the best,

Lanny

What lawn. In Calif they are now talking about the water police to stop people from watering a lawn.

The only thing we will be allowed is to stay inside play video games. If you can pay for the electricity rates that are about to soar

 

[B H Prospector]

You couldn't give me anything to get me to live in Crapifornia.

 

[Oakview2]

It would be nice if the ballot measure passes to split the state until six states.

 

[Hoser John]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTT what da LL next?? OOPS maybe I don't really wanna know that nightmare...sic sic sic -John

 

[kuger]

I hear there is a Bill to allow the Gov to Condemn private Prop that they deem is not being used "efficiently"...........well best way I can think to use my land is to mine it...

 

[B H Prospector]

I hear there is a Bill to allow the Gov to Condemn private Prop that they deem is not being used "efficiently"...........well best way I can think to use my land is to mine it...

Not their idea of most efficient use. Theirs is throw you off and let nature have it back or sell it to a big company so they can tax the **** out of them.

 

[rockygulchJoe]

Aaahhh.... it's our friends from Big-Biological again. Thay have been busy as bees latley "endangered bees" no doubt. Its absolutely amazing what one can accomplish, whith a battalion of lawyer's and unlimited tax dollars.

 

[socalocmatt]

Am I missing something or is this something that went down 2 1/2 years ago?

 

[TAKODA]

I think the real endangered species in all of this is the human being that wants to enjoy the outdoors. If things keep going the way they are, pretty soon the only outdoor area you'll be able to enjoy is your lawn, and that might even be too much to expect.

All the best,

Lanny

I agree Lanny . The endangered species is free men ..... and freedom in general .
Seems to be spreading like some kind of virus in this country . Damn shame .

 

[Fullpan]

Am I missing something or is this something that went down 2 1/2 years ago?

Yes, it began then, but was recently re-affirmed. The FWS is saying that there's no access restrictions, per se, with critical habitat listings - this calls "BS" on
that lie.

 

[socalocmatt]

Yes, it began then, but was recently re-affirmed. The FWS is saying that there's no access restrictions, per se, with critical habitat listings - this calls "BS" on
that lie.

Ah. I see. I figured I was missing something.

 

[Hoser John]

SO ARE WE----IT'S CALLED MINING FOR A HONEST LIVING IN KALIF LAND OF INSANITY-John