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[Oakview2]

http://www.goldgold.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ltr-rinehart-10-17-14.pdf

 

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[fowledup]

Is my thinking correct in in saying- that is all well and good for navigable waters flowing thru state owned property but his claim is within the National Forest which is owned collectively by the American People, thru the Feds, not the state. There new argument is sure to bring up several new questions as to land use of National Wild and Scenic Rivers.

 

[mxer47]

Crap, if you follow their logic they are basically saying our rights under the constitution end where the state begins.

 

[wingmaster]

They do impose their power over the states on immigration issues though or when ever they see fit if it meets their needs.

 

[2cmorau]

State’s do ignore the Constitution until they need it, it's too bad that most voters do not know this CBD,TSF hurt revenue for the state and seem the poli(tick)shin go along with it, then of course people complain about the wage not knowing that taxes play a large part of that wage, and why do taxes go up and up, well geeeee http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/23/union-demands-send-japanese-firm-jobs-packing-from-california-town/
they have the power of the media, it is to bad us dredgers can not get the same attention, environmentally knowing that we do remove toxins
sorry Fowledup LOL

 

[Hoser John]

And another ,and another ,and another this is never ending. Posting the latest attack on the 1872 Mining Laws now also sic sic sic country....... John

 

[fowledup]

State’s do ignore the Constitution until they need it, it's too bad that most voters do not know this CBD,TSF hurt revenue for the state and seem the poli(tick)shin go along with it, then of course people complain about the wage not knowing that taxes play a large part of that wage, and why do taxes go up and up, well geeeee http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/23/union-demands-send-japanese-firm-jobs-packing-from-california-town/
they have the power of the media, it is to bad us dredgers can not get the same attention, environmentally knowing that we do remove toxins
sorry Fowledup LOL

No worries, preach it loud and proud my brother!

 

[winners58]

reply from Brandons legal counsel James Buchal
http://www.goldgold.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ltr-re-Amicus-mod-10-21-14.pdf

The public trust doctrine is only an easement for boating and recreation, isn't it?
http://www.dbw.ca.gov/PDF/PublicTrustDoctrine.pdf


Brandon’s claim is up the Feather River, <edit> its a small tributary --south branch Middle fork feather river in the National Forest
the Feather River is considered a navigable river from the mouth to the RR bridge at Marysville 28 miles.
http://www.spk.usace.army.mil/Missions/Regulatory/Jurisdiction/NavigableWatersoftheUS.aspx

 

[2cmorau]

some good news
American Energy Solutions for Lower Costs and More American Jobs Act (H.R. 2) - House Committee on Natural Resources
and some better news
18 ELR 20690 -- In re Water of Hallett Creek Stream System

 

[fowledup]

The judge should say enough is enough you had your chance. Now your mocking the intelligence of the court by introducing poorly researched arguments that have little or no merit to the case. It's obvious they are throwing sh-t out there to prolong the case and see if they can get something to stick.

 

[mxer47]

I heard a wannabe politician the other day say "I am a non violent revolutionary socialist". The problem with this quote is when free peoples rights are taken away they tend to get violent. Not advocating, just saying.

 

[Bnugget]

reply from Brandons legal counsel James Buchal http://www.goldgold.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Ltr-re-Amicus-mod-10-21-14.pdf The public trust doctrine is only an easement for boating and recreation, isn't it? http://www.dbw.ca.gov/PDF/PublicTrustDoctrine.pdf Brandon’s claim is up the south fork of the Feather River, the Feather River is considered a navigable river from the mouth to the RR bridge at Marysville 28 miles. http://www.spk.usace.army.mil/Missions/Regulatory/Jurisdiction/NavigableWatersoftheUS.aspx

my claim is on a tributary to the Middle Fork, not navigable!

 

[Clay Diggins]

Navigable or not the central issue is that the greenies want the court to declare that the United States does not own the lands below the stream. No minerals, no water no ownership.

Idiots

From the founding Congressional Act creating California as a State in 1850:

An Act for the admission of the State of California into the Union.

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, That the said State of California is admitted into the Union upon the express condition that the people of said State, through their legislature or otherwise, shall never interfere with the primary disposal of the public lands within its limits, and shall pass no law and do no act whereby the title of the United States to, and right to dispose of, the same shall be impaired or questioned ; and that they shall never lay any tax or assessment of any description whatsoever upon the public domain of the United States

Desperate idiots.

I Hope the court doesn't waste any time on this nonsense.

 

[Bonaro]

Here is some relevant info...seems to me that "navigable" water is owned by the feds not the states which would null CBD's point completely

The Daniel Ball ? Case Brief Summary

Navigable Waters legal definition of Navigable Waters

 

[winners58]

Looks like they refused CBD from; California Courts - Appellate Court Case Information

10/29/2014 Letter sent to: Jonathan Carter Evans: I requested permission from the court to file your request to modify the opinion in the above entitled case. The court denied my request. Therefore, please find enclosed your unfiled request to modify the opinion.

10/29/2014 Letter sent to: appellant: The court denied my request for permission to file the request to modify the opinion submitted by amici curiae. Therefore, I am returning your opposition to that request unfiled as well.

 

[jog]

I sent my letters some time ago but I don't see my name anywhere on any of those lists & haven't had anything returned either, does anyone know if they are still going through letters?

 

[fowledup]

Looks like they refused CBD from; California Courts - Appellate Court Case Information

10/29/2014 Letter sent to: Jonathan Carter Evans: I requested permission from the court to file your request to modify the opinion in the above entitled case. The court denied my request. Therefore, please find enclosed your unfiled request to modify the opinion.

10/29/2014 Letter sent to: appellant: The court denied my request for permission to file the request to modify the opinion submitted by amici curiae. Therefore, I am returning your opposition to that request unfiled as well.

Take a gander at all those names on the link it's a Beautiful thing! UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL!!!!

 

[Oakview2]

How sweet it is

http://www.goldgold.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/memo-Rinehart-10-30-14-1.pdf

 

[57chevy]

"If they can get you to continually ask the wrong questions, then they don't have to worry about the answers."

 

[jog]

Take a gander at all those names on the link it's a Beautiful thing! UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL!!!!

It would be even more beautiful if everyones names were on there? I also signed up on the courts link to have info from this case sent to me & have yet to recieve anything.?