Making It Straight: Idahos Forest Service to rearrange Crooked River

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Making It Straight: Idaho's Forest Service to rearrange Crooked River

Just received this info. moments ago. Another $2.5 million of tax payers money pi$$ed down the drain. The millions already spent on similar projects to the Red River and Newsome streams over the past 10 years has shown no improvement on salmon and steelhead count. Recently, there has been an over-reach by EPA prohibited dredging on the Clearwater River (which by the way was approved by the States Dept. of Water Resource). They claim that the dredges were producing turbidity and polluting the water and have invoked to do it legally under the Clean Water Act. Not only have these folks lost their minds but they have never observed the blow-outs this river (as well as its many branches) sees each spring. As one representative announced at a Boise meeting, "all the dredges combined in this world could not produce the effects of a blowout that Mother nature herself does in a single day." For EPA to rely on the use of the Clean Water Act on a stream named Clearwater,,, needs no further comment from me.
You are welcome to read the following and I'll let you come to your own conclusions.



ELK CITY – The H&H Mining Company’s dredging during the late 1930s and early 1940s rearranged Crooked River, leaving a two-mile legacy of “meanders” that the Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forests now intend to undo. Public access to the area will be limited for up to six years after the work begins, during which the mine tailings will be moved to make way for 64 acres of wetlands in the floodplains astride more than 10,000 feet of channels slated for reconstruction.

#This plan to rearrange the river once again – known as the Crooked River Valley Rehabilitation project – has been in the works since 2012. The proposal is subject to further objections and review, but it took a step forward last Monday, Feb. 23, with the release of the forests’ study and draft decision.

#“Mine tailings are concentrated in the valley bottom and have altered the physical condition of the stream system, restricting the natural migration pattern of the stream and other changes in channel size, form, and function,” the forests noted in a news release. “The condition currently impairs the ability of riparian vegetation to establish and function as a natural buffer.”

#The work is expected to boost the steelhead and chinook salmon fisheries — and to do it legally under the Clean Water Act, the Forest Service requires a joint permit from Idaho’s Department of Water Resources and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

#The project will boost employment in the short term and will boost recreation in the long-term, according to the Forest Service. In 2012, the Idaho Department of Fish and Game noted fishing in Idaho generates about $500 million in statewide retail sales, including about $50 million per year for salmon and steelhead fishing in the Clearwater River basin and lower Salmon River. An earlier study found restored salmon and steelhead fisheries could bring $23 million in retail sales annually to the communities of Grangeville and Elk City. The cost of the project is estimated at $2.5 million and would potentially be funded through the Bonneville Power Association Fish and Wildlife Program.

#Those with mining claims in the area should contact the Forest Service concerning any coordination or questions concerning access to their claims; the area will be under a closure order that will limit access for six years the Forest Service anticipates it will take to complete the work. The Crooked River Road (Road 233) will remain open to the public.

#For details, contact Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forests project team leader, Jennie Fischer, 983-4048, or at the Forest Service office in Grangeville.


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Laura A. Smith
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Nez Perce-Clearwater National Forests

p: 208-983-5143
[email protected]

104 Airport Road
Grangeville, ID 83530
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"Public access will be limited for up to six years" I read that as setting precedence and the laying the ground work for what their goal really is! The rest is just noise and the means and method to achieve their goal.

You all keep this kind of nonsense up and all us Californians won't want to relocate up their, it won't be any different than here, lol!
 

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Guess they'll have to rename the waterway....Straight River.
 

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Guess they'll have to rename the waterway....Straight River.

I don't know, is it still ok to use the word straight? Howevr "Straight" denotes direction and "Crooked" implies method, so I guess they both apply. How about the "Crookedly straight" river? Here come the bumper stickers - "It's straight cuz it's crooked"
 

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I wonder how much turbidity will be created doing this fiasco ? EIR, EPA, Army Core of Engineers and I'm sure dozens more agencies and such. There must be some toad or owl that may have his feelings hurt during this boondoggle.
 

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'Friends of the Idaho Hellgrammite' says- "Stop the senseless slaughter of millions of living beings and needless destruction of their aquatic homes". Someone needs to alert Earthjustice, or the CBD before its too late!
 

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Another 6 months and the radiation from Fukishima will finish the extinction of those salmon as the western Pacific is DEAD now, the eastern Pacific is nearly dead...
 

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REMEMBER where the original stream is/was . then work the non-straightened sections of the stream. AND if you have a vacant lot near where they are working , tell them they can dump all that material there for free! they like free! also look for their dump piles along the stream!! it may pay to dig there!!!!! and after they straighten this stream expect to see flooding and washouts along its path!:thumbsup:
 

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Here's the kicker about their six year closure order to limit travel: Presently, the Fish & Game has a juvenile fish hatchery implemented on this designated "straight stretch" portion of Crooked River. Are they simply going to relocate the entire building or are they simply going to bend the rules as they see fit and divert the river around it? Here's another twist on this mining community: Our biggest mining company (Premium Exploration Inc.) has a full scale operation just beyond Orogrande which by the way, is a small township of residents that reside along the Crooked River. There are residents that live beyond the Orogrande as well (Buffalo Hump district). Are they and those miners who have claims in those parts going to be effected in any way? You can bet you sweet 'lil a- - they will be. That drive up there is difficult enough with a 4x4 but to be detained or be told when they will have access, is not an experience I'd wish on anyone. And lastly (got to get this one off my chest), Dept. of Water Resources forbids the miner to alter a stream without a permit. It is as follows: WARNING: It is a misdemeanor in Idaho to alter a stream channel without the permit or to violate the conditions of the permit. You can be fined from $150-$500 per day for violations. You got to ask yourself this,,, when was the last time one of these permits where given out (kind of similar to the NPDS permits) it takes an act from God and still that may not be possible. But yet the "Government men" can be granted the rights to move an entire two miles of stream at a cost of 2.5 million dollars to the tax payer for what???? Just to straighten it, hoping the fish will come? Well if the light bulb isn't on, then I guess no one's home. NEWS FLASH - - - they are already here - been that way since it was dredged some 75 years ago! Oh by the way, they'd have you (the miner) believe that it is dredging that kills fish when in fact the same fish hatchery on this Crooked River killed 400,000 juvenile fish (they say it was an accident) several years ago. Ironic that they consider themselves the "savior of the fish."

On a brighter note:

You all keep this kind of nonsense up and all us Californians won't want to relocate up their, it won't be any different than here

I hear you on that note. Getting pretty bad when you folks don't want to come no more. I feel like putting my head in the sand and hoping all this mess will go away, lol.


REMEMBER where the original stream is/was . then work the non-straightened sections of the stream. AND if you have a vacant lot near where they are working , tell them they can dump all that material there for free! they like free! also look for their dump piles along the stream!! it may pay to dig there!!!!! and after they straighten this stream expect to see flooding and washouts along its path!

I like the way Russ thinks - "They like free" had me roaring with laughter :laughing7:
 

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Gold getter I know there is no fish there because I catch them there all the time. Being an excavator by trade with commercial mining experience! I would be more then happy to go in there for free and reclaim it providing I could wash all the dirt so it is clean and keep all the heavy metals that are killing the fish. Maybe I should apply for a 60 million grant from the government to do a study on reclamation, mining and the fish. Then Idaho could save their 2 mill. I know this I spent 2 years trying to get a permit on Nesome Creek. It didn't happen. and that was 20 years ago. I will be up there in 2 weeks trying to remove all them pesky steelhead on the S Fork. I have dredged there years ago only to have the Steelhead or Chinook spawn on our tailing's.
 

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