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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluestar9 View Post
    Too funny, I had just read Reeds post but glossed over the last part. Oooooops........
    Thanks...............
    No worries friend.
    Men are strong so long as they represent a strong idea they become powerless when they oppose it. Sigmund Freud

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzViper View Post
    Are these reruns of Yukon Gold? I thought this show had ended and was not returning. If I remember it was one of the better gold shows. Hmmm will take a look.
    No, not reruns. So far only on History Ch. Canada. Spoiler alert, Big Al is not on this season.

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    Well I cannot find Yukon Gold on Cox Cable. They use to carry this show. I will have to try to find it on my little black box called Minix NEO X8-H using XBMC.
    Last edited by AzViper; Mar 17, 2015 at 06:14 AM.
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    From Bernie on his Facebook site "We have taken the store offline until we have manufacture worked out again. Also we have a few customers whose orders were not filled and we will be taking care of that also. Soon hopefully. With those a-holes Jeremiah Cohn and Gary Smith mucking around showing everyone how stupid they are (almost impossible to make a gold well vortex dsign fail but they managed to do just that) and screwed up my local sales, with recent manufacturing issues and virtually no income it's like telling a guy to go win a race then chop his legs off. But as always I will find some way. The thing that bothers me most of all are the customers who have waited so long to get their sluice. Fortunately it's only a few people so far as I know."
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    And then this. "Well, this break from things has done me some good. And something very good may have come from it. Ever since I invented the vortex drop riiffle system, I have had something bugging me, like something I missed or wasn't seeing that was right in front of my face. Sure enough, as often happens with me, today I had that ah-ha moment and now believe I can deliver the performance of my current design, and perhaps even increase the sluice throughput, while eliminating the heavy plates and bring the costs down similar to a traditional sluice system. Plus it will be far lighter too! But I will make it with the same quality that our customers currently enjoy. I hope to squeeze a few hours this week to make a test setup. And if it works as I think it will, will secure patent rights immediately internationally as well as the USA. But not even a hint from me as to how it will be accomplished. So don't ask haha. As soon as I get some results I will let you all know!"

    "Well that's a bummer. Did a quick check today of it and didn't work as expected. Back to the drawing boards as they say ... but I know I'll crack it sooner or later."
    March 14 at 7:27pm
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    "Don Moreland: poor bernie kept trying to fix the problem anbd went broke. he reclaimed the bogus sluices and replaced them with good one for a minumumm cost. even though it wasnt his fault people bought them. then when the machine shop quit on him. and sold his disk that was the final straw. too bad he couldnt have got a good lawyer."
    March 3 at 7:40am ·

    His partners broke from him and made knock offs in Mexico and Canada and they didn't work, ugh

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    "Gold Well Sluice: Don, the silence is due to the fact I am in a remote area with horrible internet access and only a phone or pad to access wnen I can. Just taking time to get things up and going right again. I appreciate that you are a fan. Dont count me out yet...I'm tougher than Iook lol"
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    He's looking for a new partner to do manufacturing and production. His health is now an issue. He owns the patent.
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    Well I hope that Bernie finds his way and brings back the Gold Well. Those who have seen the GW knows firsthand the quality and those who own the GW knows firsthand that the GW produces and will last a lifetime. The weight does not bother me and I hope Bernie brings back the original.
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    Look at the Historical Gold Mining photo albums on my page

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    I talked to Bernie today and as of right now being that I love the Gold Well sluice, I am going to once again be endorsing it fully now and doing my best to help him get it going again. He has had some bad breaks and also some serious patent infringement that basically flat out broke him but he is in the process of working with a new machinist and having them made. I will be talking with him in a couple of weeks to see how the new company is doing with the new die's, tooling, etc. that they are making to get everything up and ready for production and then Karen and I along with some others will move from there into promoting and selling it because it is a great product. I am going to do my best to get some good trustable dealers lined up for him. The new Gold Well that we saw on Yukon Gold is actually one of the Canadian knock-off's and not an original. These are made by a guy who was working with him and basically took his patent to Canada and set it up for himself. So Bernie has been had by some dishonest people, so to speak. Were they breaking the law? Well not technically here in the US because they made some minute changes to his design. Unfortunately these minute changes also made the sluice not work and even though they were using another name and being made elsewhere, Bernie got blasted for the imitation's inferiority and gave them Gold Well's to replace them...
    Man I really like the Gold Well Sluice, so I told Bernie today that I will do what I can to help. As of right now Bernie is alone in his business, but in a few weeks, after the Miners Bash, we are going to head down there and see what we can do to help get things rolling
    Last edited by Reed Lukens; Mar 30, 2015 at 08:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Lukens View Post
    I talked to Bernie today and as of right now being that I love the Gold Well sluice, I am going to once again be endorsing it fully now and doing my best to help him get it going again. He has had some bad breaks and also some serious patent infringement that basically flat out broke him but he is in the process of working with a new machinist and having them made. I will be talking with him in a couple of weeks to see how the new company is doing with the new die's, tooling, etc. that they are making to get everything up and ready for production and then Karen and I along with some others will move from there into promoting and selling it because it is a great product. I am going to do my best to get some good trustable dealers lined up for him. The new Gold Well that we saw on Yukon Gold is actually one of the Canadian knock-off's and not an original. These are made by a guy who was working with him and basically took his patent to Canada and set it up for himself. So Bernie has been had by some dishonest people, so to speak. Were they breaking the law? Well not technically here in the US because they made some minute changes to his design. Unfortunately these minute changes also made the sluice not work and even though they were using another name and being made elsewhere, Bernie got blasted for the imitation's inferiority and gave them Gold Well's to replace them...
    Man I really like the Gold Well Sluice, so I told Bernie today that I will do what I can to help. As of right now Bernie is alone in his business, but in a few weeks, after the Miners Bash, we are going to head down there and see what we can do to help get things rolling
    Reed this is outstanding news. I wish Bernie all the best. It's BS Bernie's helper has screwed him over.
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    I've found the Gold Well Vortex Sluice patent from 2015: US20150246359

    Vertical Vortex Generating Sluice/Slurry Separator - PETERSON DAVID S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel2015 View Post
    I've found the Gold Well Vortex Sluice patent from 2015: US20150246359

    Vertical Vortex Generating Sluice/Slurry Separator - PETERSON DAVID S.
    Not the Goldwell. Different device entirely. I saw this one, or one very similar, and I was not impressed with the operation.

    Here is the real Goldwell Sluice. I've also seen the real Goldwell in action and I was impressed.

    Heavy Pans

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    I've wondered from the day I saw the goldwell... why not just make it out of ABS?!?! Waaaaay easier to manufacture and cheaper to boot, which means cheaper overall prices which means more sales = more word of mouth.

    In all my years of business, one phrase can be applied to literally ANY situation and has always held true.

    "Quality brings quantity, and Quantity takes care of everything"

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    IDK abs thick enough to machine the same way would be pricey...and it is softer than aluminum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clay Diggins View Post
    Not the Goldwell. Different device entirely. I saw this one, or one very similar, and I was not impressed with the operation.

    Here is the real Goldwell Sluice. I've also seen the real Goldwell in action and I was impressed.

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    Figure 12B.. Looks EXACTLY like the Goldwell.

    12B) is a perspective top view of an alternate exemplary embodiment of a vortex section according to the present invention.

    Some guy in Montana, filed 3/1/14.

    This is exactly why patents 99% of the time are BS.. Its basically saying he owns the rights to any type of swirling action in a sluice box, where
    the axis is vertical.

    I'm seeing threads on here about the goldwell from 2013... Prior art and all that....

 

 
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