wacoenviromentalists and "OUR" $$$

russau

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Why is it that these wacoenviromentalists and the BIG environmental groups ALWAYS get paid millions of $$$$$ of "our" money when they file suit against mining , logging ETC. when we don't? I say follow the money and 1st. cut off their cash flow from the courts by getting some "politician" to support a Nation wide /state wide ban against these wacos getting cash awards! then go after the big groups and stop the flow of cash , this will probly stop most of these suits if our gubermint would stop rewarding them cash ! then go after (personnaly) these wacos like they are doing to Brandon and others. lets checkout their dirty laundry and see if they can standup to scrutiny!!! then we need to look at the judges !!!!!!!!!!! the fear of loseing ones job as a judge over doing the right thing by law stups me as why the good people of America aren't screaming for their fireing!!!
 

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The American justice system has a couple of blatant loopholes in it for sure and it's these holes that the Greenies have learned how to exploit to the fullest extent. They also take advantage of the facts that most of the agencies they file suit against have to pay for the court costs out of their budgets. Court cases are not cheap and in many cases the agencies can't afford a lengthy fight to do what is right. In these cases they end up settling out of court so they can save funds for the rest of their operations. Thus was the start of the now infamous "Sue and Settle" tactics that have made the green groups rich. Look at how these groups started out as grass roots with noble intentions and how they are now worth millions of $$$$$. "Free" government money changed the groups into money grubbing thieves bent only on getting as much money as possible while they can. They use our own laws against us to make themselves rich.

What gets me about these groups is that they're SUPPOSED to be "Not for Profit". Yet when you look at how much their leaders are being paid by the group (from our money of course) I don't see how they can remain NFP. Like you said, remove the rewards and many of the groups would dry up and blow away. While we are at it, let's make them pay back all the money they've stolen and pay interest on it as well.
 

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Hard to do guys when the Greenies are appointed by Greenies in our Gov. But we as miners, prospectors here in Ca should find a way to SHUT DOWN this Serria Fund and all its cohorts.

[h=1]TSF speaks at California Water Commission hearing[/h]Posted on October 28, 2015November 2, 2015
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The Sierra Fund CEO Elizabeth Martin addresses the California Water Commission at a hearing in Yuba City.

Last Wednesday, October 21 The Sierra Fund’s CEO Elizabeth “Izzy” Martin spoke to the California Water Commission (CWC) at their public event in Yuba City.
Through this evening event, the Commission was soliciting input on how to implement the water storage section of Proposition 1, including how to invest the more than $2 billion in the bond for increasing water storage in the state.
Martin spoke about the potential to improve reservoir operation, increase water storage and enhance water quality and ecosystem resiliency by removing sediment that is clogging reservoirs in the Sierra Nevada.
More information about the hearing and this process is available at this link: cwc.ca.gov


[h=1]California Water Commission
[/h]The California Water Commission consists of nine members appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the State Senate. Seven members are chosen for their general expertise related to the control, storage, and beneficial use of water and two are chosen for their knowledge of the environment.
The Commission provides a public forum (a lot of prospectors should show up for these when Dizzy is promoting her BS) to show her BS is just that.
for discussing water issues, advises the Department of Water Resources (DWR), and takes appropriate statutory actions to further the development of policies that support integrated and sustainable water resource management and a healthy environment. Statutory duties include advising the Director of DWR, approving rules and regulations, and monitoring and reporting on the construction and operation of the State Water Project.
 

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If the Sierra Fund wants to dredge then let them. Just as long as they're the ones footing the bill! Of course we will want to see a full POO INCLUDING reclamation plans and have them post both a reclamation bond as well as a completion bond. If they don't have the project finished by a specified date then it costs them so many millions of dollars A DAY! That should put a wet blanket on their goal of being the only ones allowed to dredge in California.
 

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Fight fire with fire if any of you guy's are well known in your area why don't you run for state senate? If you get some miners in there you might be able to change things maybe. Out here we had a problem like you only with atv's /dirt bikes god forbid if we got caught on asphalt! Then we got a couple of avid riders in the state senate got some laws changed. then I was able to register my Honda cr 500 for the road and 4-wheelers can go from trail-A to trail-B without getting in trouble. Just my thought you can tell me where to go.
 

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How does "The Serria Fund" keep its 501( c )( 3 ) status?

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Elizabeth “Izzy” Martin, C.E.O.,is a community organizer and environmental advocate with over thirty years of experience working in rural communities to promote economic and environmental justice. She has worked with a wide diversity of constituencies, from farm workers to small farmers and rural environmentalists.
Izzy was the founding Executive Director of the California Agrarian Action Project in 1980 (renamed the Community Alliance with Family Farmers in 1990). She developed the highly successful California Institute for Rural Studies program to work with pesticide poison victims and to support organic farmers, and helped to draft and pass several pieces ofl andmark legislation protecting rural communities from pesticides and promoting sustainable agriculture. Izzy worked in administration and project development for the California Rural Legal Assistance Foundation for five years.
Izzy first entered local politics when she was appointed and served two terms on the Nevada County Planning Commission during the1990’s. Later, while serving on the Nevada County Board of Supervisors(1999-2003), Ms. Martin led the fight in the state legislature to put the South Yuba River into the state’s wild and scenic river program. In 2004 she led the successful advocacy effort to persuade the California State legislature to establish the Sierra Nevada Conservancy, working with Assemblymen John Laird and Tim Leslie.

Izzy became CEO of The Sierra Fund in 2004. Since that time she has helped to develop more than $80 million in State funds for conservationi n the Sierra, as well as building a significant and strong foundation for The Sierra Fund.

From <Elizabeth Martin | The Sierra Fund>

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The Sierra Fund is a 501(c)3 nonprofit tax-exempt organization based in Nevada City, California. We serve the Sierra Nevada region of California, which includes 25 million acres, a third of the state’s area, and all or part of 22 rural counties.

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Victory on suction dredge mining reform: Governor Brown signs SB 637
Posted on October 9, 2015
S.B. 637 Requires Clean Water Act Permits for Motorized Suction Dredge Mining
Sacramento, Calif.—California Gov. Jerry Brown today signed into law Senate Bill 637 to protect California’s water supplies, wildlife and cultural resources from the damaging ffects of destructive suction dredge gold mining. The new law requires that all small-scale miners using motorized suction pumps obtain a Clean Water Act Permit from the State Water Resources Control Board before mining in California waterways.
This is a great victory for all of us concerned about clean water and healthy fisheries,” said Elizabeth Martin, CEO of The Sierra Fund.
“We are very pleased that our tribal fisheries and sacred sites will receive additional protections from the ravages of gold-mining clubs who have been damaging our resources for decades,” said Josh Saxon, council memberof the Karuk Tribe.
The legislation affects suction dredge mining, high banking and any other form of mining that relies on motorized suction pumps to process materials from the banks or beds of rivers and streams. Suction dredges are powered by gas or diesel engines that are mounted on floating pontoons in the river; attached to their engines is a powerful vacuum hose, which the dredger uses to suction up the gravel, sand and mud from the bottom of the river. The suctioned material is sifted in search of gold. Similarly, high banking suctions water to process material excavated from riverbanks, causing erosion and sediment problems as well as affecting cultural sites.
Dredging and high banking alters fish habitat by changing the river bottom and often reintroduces mercury, left over from historic mining operations, to the waterways threatening communities and fisheries. These machines can turn a clear-running mountain stream into a murky watercourse unfit for swimming or fishing.
The measure comes after nearly a decade of litigation among tribes, conservationists and miners. A moratorium on the environmentally destructive practice has been in effect since 2009, but recent court decisions have cast uncertainty on it and prompted clarification from the legislature. Senate Bill 637 was authored by Senator Ben Allen (D-Santa Monica) and sponsored by The Sierra Fund to provide clear authority to the State Water Resources Control Board to permit or deny small-scale suction dredge mining in order to maintain water-quality standards.
“We commend Senator Allen for standing up for our precious water resources and wildlife during this devastating drought,” said Jonathan Evans,Environmental Health legal director at the Center for Biological Diversity.
The issue has implications for the economy as well as the environment. “For our members, this is about protecting jobs and family owned businesses which rely on healthy salmon fisheries,” said Glen Spain of the Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen’s Associations,

(And the hell with protecting jobs and family owned businesses of small miners and prospectors, and the small communities we buy our supplies from, and the bigger companies we but our larger equipment from.) My addition.

the West Coast’s largest trade association of commercial fishing families.
The Sierra Fund and the Karuk Tribe have been working with the Center for Biological Diversity,Pacific Coast Federation of Fishermen’s Associations, Friends of the River,Environmental Law Foundation, Upper American River Foundation, California Sportfishing Protection Alliance, Foothills Anglers Association, North Fork American River Alliance, Klamath Riverkeeper and the Central Sierra Environmental Resource Center for several years to reform small-scale mining laws and regulations.

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SMARA Reform Bill (SB 209) shelved until 2016 legislative session
Posted on November 2,2015November 2, 2015
The Sierra Fund’s bill being carried by Senator Fran Pavley to amend the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) got all of the way through the Senate and to the floor of the Assembly before being put on a shelf until winter. This bill aims to improve enforcement of SMARA by lead agencies(usually cities and counties). Key elements of SMARA include ensuring regular and expert inspections, adequate financial mechanisms in place to support reclamation, and a good reclamation plan that is implemented when mining ends.

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SMARA Reform Bill (SB 209)shelved until 2016 legislative session
Posted on November 2,2015November 2, 2015
The Sierra Fund’s bill being carried by Senator Fran Pavley to amend the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) got all of the way through the Senate and to the floor of the Assembly before being put on a shelf until winter.
This bill aims to improve enforcement of SMARA by lead agencies(usually cities and counties). Key elements of SMARA include ensuring regular and expert inspections, adequate financial mechanisms in place to support reclamation, and a good reclamation plan that is implemented when mining ends.
The Sierra Fund CEO Elizabeth Martin participated in a Governor-convened weekly “stakeholder meeting” to discuss SMARA issues in spring 2015,and this group collaboratively developed some good ideas on SMARA reform that the local agencies, administration, mining industry, and conservation community could support. Over the next couple of months we hope to fine-tune these ideas and figure out which of them could become part of the legislative package for next year.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/sb-209-shelved-til-2016/>

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SMARA reform bills move forward
Posted on July 16, 2015July23, 2015
On Monday, July 13 the California Assembly Natural Resources Committee voted to approve SB 209 (Pavley), a bill sponsored by The Sierra Fund to strengthen enforcement of SMARA. On a 7 – 1 bipartisan vote the bill was moved out of the committee and onto the Appropriations Committee, where it will be heard later in […]

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SMARA reform bills move forward
Posted on July 16, 2015July23, 2015
On Monday, July 13 the California Assembly Natural Resources Committee voted to approve SB 209 (Pavley),a bill sponsored by The Sierra Fund to strengthen enforcement of SMARA. On a 7 – 1 bipartisan vote the bill was moved out of the committee and onto the Appropriations Committee, where it will be heard later in August.
SB 209 includes elements of the SMARA reform proposals that have been developed out of a Governor-convened stakeholder process that Elizabeth “Izzy” Martin of The Sierra Fund has been participating in since March. The bill is supported by a broad coalition of conservation, environmental justice and community organizations.
On Tuesday, July 14 the Senate Natural Resources Committee voted to approve AB 1142 (Gray), a bill sponsored by the mining industry to reform SMARA. The Sierra Fund testified as “opposed unless amended” to the Committee. The amendments supported by The Sierra Fund were agreed upon in concept by the Committee and the bill’s author Assemblyman Adam Gray. This bill also garnered bi-partisan support. This bill moves on to the Senate Appropriations Committee to be heard after the legislative summer recess is over.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/smara-reform-moves-forward/>

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SMARA reform bill (SB 209) passes Senate Floor
Posted on May 28, 2015 July23, 2015
SB 209 (Pavley), a bill to improve enforcement of California’s Surface Mining and Reclamation Act passed the Senate Floor.
A wide range of organizations have worked to support this bill including TSF, Environmental Working Group, CA League of Conservation Voters,Clean Water Action, Wolf Creek Community Alliance, CLAIM-GV, Endangered Habitats League, CA Native Plant Society, San Juan Ridge Taxpayers Association,and Center for Biological Diversity.

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SMARA reform bill (SB 209) passes Senate Floor
Posted on May 28, 2015July23, 2015
SB 209 (Pavley), a bill to improve enforcement of California’s Surface Mining and Reclamation Act passed the Senate Floor.
A wide range of organizations have worked to support this bill including TSF, Environmental Working Group, CA League of Conservation Voters, Clean Water Action, Wolf Creek Community Alliance, CLAIM-GV, Endangered Habitats League, CA Native Plant Society, San Juan Ridge Taxpayers Association, and Center for Biological Diversity.
SB 209 is designed to remedy a number of problems with enforcement of the California Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA). Research by the Senate Natural Resources Committee and the Office of Mine Reclamation has shown that SMARA is enforced inconsistently, and that lead agencies around the state have a spotty record of inspection, enforcement of permit conditions, and reclamation of mines in their jurisdiction. Some mines stop operation and their financial assurances are returned to them without completing required reclamation activities. In some cases, mines that are known to not be in compliance with SMARA law are allowed to operate and sell their products to the State despite the mine’s failure to comply with state law. It has also been documented that many current mine operators do not pay their fees, creating financial strain on the regulatory activities funded by these fees.
The State has an interest in regulating mining to ensure that a mine is operated in compliance with its locally issued permit, which protects the State’s water and air from contamination, and to ensure that when the mine ceases operation it is remediated to be ready for a beneficial end use. SB 209 is a good start to address these issues.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/sb-209-passes-senate-floor/>


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Update on SMARA reform bill (SB 209)
Posted on May 11, 2015May 12, 2015
The Sierra Fund continues to track the progress of SB 209(Pavley), a bill to improve SMARA, which has now passed the Senate Natural Resources Committee and will be heard in Appropriations later this spring. This bill will likely be amended to include the language that is being developed through weekly stakeholder meetings being convened by Governor Brown, which The Sierra Fund has been participating in.

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Update on SMARA reform bill (SB209)
Posted on May 11, 2015May 12, 2015
The Surface Mining and Reclamation Act(SMARA) was passed in 1975 and signed into law by then-Governor Jerry Brown. Now, 40 years later, the Governor has convened stakeholders interested in SMARA in a process designed to evaluate and find ways to improve the law. Elizabeth “Izzy” Martin, The Sierra Fund’s CEO, has been invited to participate in this process, which includes weekly meetings in the Governor’s office.
The Sierra Fund continues to track the progress of SB 209(Pavley), a bill to improve SMARA, which has now passed the Senate Natural Resources Committee and will be heard in Appropriations later this spring. This bill will likely be amended toi nclude the language that is being developed through the Governor’s stakeholder meetings.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/update-on-sb-209/>

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Bill to reform Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SB 209) introduced
Posted on March 12,2015March 12, 2015
Senator Pavley has introduced SB 209, a bill to reform the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA). The Sierra Fund has worked with Senator Pavley to help identify opportunities to improve consistent enforcement of SMARA, relating to inspections and reclamation. Regulation of mining practices based on their environmental impacts began with the “Sawyer Decision”in […]

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Bill to reform Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SB 209) introduced
Posted on March 12,2015March 12, 2015
Senator Pavley has introduced SB 209, a bill to reform the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA). The Sierra Fund has worked with Senator Pavley to help identify opportunities to improve consistent enforcement of SMARA, relating to inspections and reclamation.
Regulation of mining practices based on their environmental impacts began with the “Sawyer Decision” in 1884 which essentially ended large scale hydraulic mining in the state. Prior to the adoption of the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) in 1975, mining in California, likeall other states in the nation, was regulated by the federal 1872 Mining Act.Prior to the adoption of the California SMARA and its later amendments, there were no requirements that mines be reclaimed.
SMARA regulates both the opening of new mines and the reclamation of any currently operating mines. California SMARA law applies on all lands in the state when more than one acre of disturbance or more than 1,000 cubic yards of overburden or product is removed.
SMARA delegates mine regulatory and permitting functions on all property to the local land use agency, usually cities or counties. These“lead agencies” perform the environmental evaluation of mines required by CEQA, as well as review and approve the reclamation plan and associated financial surety documents as part of the overall mining permit they issue. The lead agency is also responsible for mine inspections and enforcement activities.
Recent research by the California Senate Natural Resources Committee and by the Department of Conservation’s OMR has shown that SMARA is enforced inconsistently by the counties and cities that serve as lead agency. While some local jurisdictions do an excellent job of regulating their mines, some counties and cities have been found to have a spotty record of inspection, enforcement of permit conditions, and reclamation of mines in their jurisdiction. In other instances, mines that are known to not be incompliance with SMARA law are allowed to operate and sell their products to theS tate despite the mine’s failure to comply with state law. In addition,it has been documented that many current mine operators do not pay their fees,creating financial strain on the regulatory activities funded by these fees.
As introduced, Senator Pavley’s SMARA reform bill, SB 209, would require the Department of Conservation to begin in 2018 to offer continuing educational opportunities for lead agency employees to become certified by the department to inspect surface mining operations. The bill would prohibit a lead agency that operates a surface mining operation from having an inspection performed by a lead agency employee, as specified, unless that employee has become certified as a surface mining operation inspector within the previous 2 years.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/smara-bill-sb-209-introduced/>

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Legislative Update on SB 1270 and1259
Posted on May28, 2014May 28, 2014
The Sierra Fund is supporting two bills authored by Senator Fran Pavley in the current legislative session, SB 1270 and SB 1259. SB 1270, the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) Reform Act of 2014 was held in the Senate Appropriations Committee without enough votes to muster passage, making the bill essentially dead for the year. SB 1259 Sedimentation Studies has moved to the floor of the Senate after unanimously passing both the Appropriation sand Natural Resources Committees. This bill requires the Department of Water Resources (DWR) to gather data to study the loss of storage capacity behind California dams resulting from sedimentation.


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Legislative Update on SB 1270 and1259
Posted on May28, 2014May 28, 2014
The Sierra Fund is supporting two bills authored by Senator Fran Pavley in the current legislative session, SB 1270 and SB 1259.
SB 1270 (Pavley), the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) Reform Act of 2014 was held in the Senate Appropriations Committee without enough votes to muster passage, making the bill essentially dead for the year. SB 1270 would have strengthened the State of California’s ability to support enforcement of the State’s mining law, including requiring that mandated annual mine inspections by local governments actually take place. Despite taking amendments offered by local government they remained opposed to the bill. The mining industry also took an oppose position.
SB 1259 (Pavley) Sedimentation Studies has moved to the floor of the Senate after unanimously passing both the Appropriations and Natural Resources Committees. This bill requires the Department of Water Resources (DWR) to gather data to study the loss of storage capacity behind California dams resulting from sedimentation. The bill requires that the initial study be completed by January 2017.
The author, Senator Pavley, notes that “Studies indicated that California’s reservoirs have lost a significant amount of storage capacity due to sedimentation. Restoring that storage capacity could greatly increase the state’s ability to store water; potentially by millions of acre-feet.Unfortunately, we don’t have sufficient information to know which reservoirs are most impacted and which have the greatest potential for cost-effective sediment removal.”

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/legislative-update-on-sb-1270-and-1259/>

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Mining Reform Bill SB1270 Passes First Senate Hurdle
Posted on April 30, 2014April 30,2014
The Senate Natural Resources Committee yesterday passed SB 1270(Pavley), the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) Reform Act on a vote of 7 – 2.
Elizabeth Martin, CEO of the bill’s sponsor The Sierra Fund,spoke as an expert witness on the benefits of the bill.

How was she considered an expert witness?

Senator Fran Pavley, Chairof the Committee and author of the bill introduced the bill with the note that this is the first time that SMARA has been revisited since legislation championed by California State Senator Byron Sher in the 1990s.


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Mining Reform Bill SB1270 PassesFirst Senate Hurdle
Posted on April 30, 2014April 30,2014
The Senate Natural Resources Committee yesterday passed SB 1270(Pavley), the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act (SMARA) Reform Act on a vote of 7 – 2.
The Sierra Fund is sponsor of the bill,and Elizabeth Martin, CEO, spoke yesterday as an expert witness on the benefits of the bill. Senator Fran Pavley, Chair of the Committee and author of the bill introduced the bill with the note that this is the first time that SMARA has been revisited since legislation championed by California State Senator Byron Sher in the 1990s.
“This bill does not in any way interfere with County land use authority to permit mines,” noted Martin, a former Nevada County Supervisor and before that a Nevada County Planning Commissioner. “It does bring new tools to the Department of Conservation to help improve implementation of SMARA. It creates a Division of Mines overseen by a State Mine Inspector;and helps improve transparency in how mining fees are used to fund enforcement. And, of course, it puts a major focus on improving the rate and quality of the already mandated annual mine inspections.”
Brian Baca, a mining expert who has served on the State Mining and Geology Board, also spoke as a technical witness before the committee. Advocates from a number of organizations including Environmental Working Group,Trust for Public Land, Sierra Club, Clean Water Action and more stood up in favor of the bill. Advocates for counties, and a number of representatives from the mining industry, spoke about their concerns.
Senator Pavley’s staff is working with Counties and mining industry representatives to design amendments that will address the concerns that they have raised. The Sierra Fund continues to be committed to the process of finding common ground with all stakeholders. The bill will likely be heard next in the Senate Appropriations Committee later this spring.
In other news from the Capitol
Also yesterday the Senate Natural Resources moved forward SB 1259(Pavley), a bill that would authorize the CA Department of Water Resources (DWR) to investigate and gather data to study the loss of storage capacity behind dams resulting from siltation and to complete an initial study by January 1, 2017. The bill would also require that the study include an evaluation of cost-effective strategies for sediment removal, relative to the costs of alternative methods of flood protection and water supply. This bill passed unanimously and will likely be heard next in the Senate Appropriations Committee later this spring.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/sb1270-passes-hurdle/>

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Reservoir Siltation Studies Proposed in SB 1259
Posted on April 16,2014April 16, 2014
Senator Fran Pavley, Chair of the California Senate Natural Resources Committee, has introduced SB 1259, a bill that if passed and signed by the Governor would: Require the Department of Water Resources to gather data for review of the loss of storage capacity behind dams resulting from siltation; Require that siltation studies include an evaluation […]

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/tag/pavley/>

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Reservoir Siltation Studies Proposed in SB 1259
Posted on April 16,2014 April 16, 2014
Senator Fran Pavley, Chair of the California Senate Natural Resources Committee, has introduced SB1259, a bill that if passed and signed by the Governor would:

  • Require the Department of Water Resources to gather data for review of the loss of storage capacity behind dams resulting from siltation;
  • Require that siltation studies include an evaluation of cost-effective strategies for sediment removal, relative to the costs of alternative methods of flood protection and water supply; and
  • Require that results of the siltation study be reflected in an upcoming update of the California Water Plan and be provided to the appropriate policy committees of the Senate and the Assembly.
The bill would require that an initial study be completed byJanuary 1, 2017.

From <https://www.sierrafund.org/siltation-studies-proposed/>
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What gets me about these groups is that they're SUPPOSED to be "Not for Profit". Yet when you look at how much their leaders are being paid by the group (from our money of course) I don't see how they can remain NFP. Like you said, remove the rewards and many of the groups would dry up and blow away. While we are at it, let's make them pay back all the money they've stolen and pay interest on it as well.

"non-profit" is a deceptive term. It DOESN"T mean that the employees or managers can't be paid, or that they can't be paid huge amounts. It simply means that all money received must be used to further there stated goals. Staff salary is included in that. There could be a NP organization whos stated goals were to end all mining in Kali. You could start a NP to end the sierra fund and all environmental extremists. You could also be paid millions as the director of that NP.
 

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Then I think I should start up a not for profit to clean California's political system of all envirowacko influence. Could be rich in no time between miners, off road users, hunters etc contributing.

The greenies didn't cause much harm until they figured out the "Sue and Settle" tactic that they've been using for years now. Since then they've become nothing more than leaches feeding on the tax dollars we pay to keep things running.
 

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If the Sierra Fund wants to dredge then let them. Just as long as they're the ones footing the bill! Of course we will want to see a full POO INCLUDING reclamation plans and have them post both a reclamation bond as well as a completion bond. If they don't have the project finished by a specified date then it costs them so many millions of dollars A DAY! That should put a wet blanket on their goal of being the only ones allowed to dredge in California.
unfortunately the project takes place on "owned" land and they don't need a POO........ NID literally has a vault of gold from other "Projects"....the more you get into the backround info the more you will vomit!!!!!
 

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The American justice system has a couple of blatant loopholes in it for sure and it's these holes that the Greenies have learned how to exploit to the fullest extent. They also take advantage of the facts that most of the agencies they file suit against have to pay for the court costs out of their budgets. Court cases are not cheap and in many cases the agencies can't afford a lengthy fight to do what is right. In these cases they end up settling out of court so they can save funds for the rest of their operations. Thus was the start of the now infamous "Sue and Settle" tactics that have made the green groups rich. Look at how these groups started out as grass roots with noble intentions and how they are now worth millions of $$$$$. "Free" government money changed the groups into money grubbing thieves bent only on getting as much money as possible while they can. They use our own laws against us to make themselves rich.

What gets me about these groups is that they're SUPPOSED to be "Not for Profit". Yet when you look at how much their leaders are being paid by the group (from our money of course) I don't see how they can remain NFP. Like you said, remove the rewards and many of the groups would dry up and blow away. While we are at it, let's make them pay back all the money they've stolen and pay interest on it as well.
We need to challenge their N.F.P status in court! Hit them in their pocket books where it would slow them down!
 

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