RAND MINING DISTRICT "COOPERATION" & MMAC INQUIRY & FINDINGS

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A little easier to read here

Jefferson Mining District
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ASSEMBLED
IN THE MATTER OF an Offer, represented as legally authentic, to apply to a Minerals and Mining
Advisory Council, MMAC, to represent mining districts before an and as United States Government
Legal Federal Agents and Federal Stakeholders, possibly USDMM, financed by the U.S. Government.

To Whom This May Concern:
Greetings.

The Offer having come to the attention of Jefferson Mining District assembled, without prior
knowledge, involvement, or contribution, that mining districts apply to "unify" beneath the "One Voice"
of a Minerals and Mining Advisory Council, MMAC, a self-styled so-called, "regional", potentially
nationwide, Advisory Council of or speaking for all mining districts, is hereby completely rejected.

The Offer, as a matter of law, is absurd on its face. Any genuine mining district worth its ore will
reject such an offer without hesitation for the insurrection the fraudulent "offer", exhibiting ignorance of
the subject matter areas, is to lawfully constituted miner's government, such as Jefferson Mining District~

After due diligence of available information and representations of"MMAC", despite its apparent
allusion to all mining districts having been consulted and are in any agreement, or as to its existence,
which Charter for the purpose is not in evidence, without which to act is a crime, or at least void, or as to
the purported and ludicrous authority, not limited, to speak for all mineral estate interests, or mining
districts, we of the Assembly find the offer an insult, inimical to the fulfillment of congressional purpose
and objectives, to its grantees, and to genuine mining districts, or other appropriators similarly situated.


Based upon the representations made through electronic media, and though undisclosed, yet
pursuant to the federal law apparently applicable to federal agency status claims, such as the Federal
Advisory Committee Act (FACA), 5 U.S. C. Appendix (App.), 1972, the best that can be expected to occur
through affiliation with this "Advisory Council" will be the silencing of the power of each grantee in favor
of and UNDER the diminished "One Voice" of the "MMAC" in destructive collaboration further UNDER
and at the discretion and pleasure of the Secretary of the Interior or other bureaucracy. Mineral Estate
Grantees are not stakeholders, but are adversely affected by stakeholders and other Government partners
or special interest collaborators. Given that the Governments, agencies in particular, have shown they
cannot be trusted to protect disposals as obligated, the only "Other benefits of enhanced cooperating
agency participation include fostering intra- and intergovernmental trust (e.g., partnerships at the
community level)" the "offer" provides no foundation or value which current Coordinating governmentto-government
checks, but which, being an unqualifiable status any "Advisory Council" cannot do.
Consequent to Jefferson Mining District, et al, v. Kitzhaber, et al, 2013, any purported legal
representation promoted by "MMAC", if it were authorized, is criminally inadequate where utilizing the
Bar Association, judicial system or members and a breach of the judgment thereto.
Even more "Simple. Easy." "No Other Agencies." - Jefferson Mining District, a government
acknowledged by Congress, by and for miners, by and through the efforts of its Assembly, is directly coordinating land use plans under no other body, assuring applicable agency actions are consistent with
law, local needs and values.

This direct engagement avoids the capitulation and compromise "MMAC"
offers to found administrative tyranny under color of lawful authority or by way of collective Alternative
Dispute Resolution based activity and strategies and the harms and division wrought thereby.

The Assembly finds, giving notice hereby, that such ADR-based activity or strategies affecting
grantees or other appropriators are Felony under state law, theft by extortion under color of authority;
The Assembly finds a MMACIUSDMM usurpation is a clear and present danger to all grantees.
This "MMAC" "offer" is an elaborate and deceptive ruse to dis-empower mineral estate grantees
through false inducement to accept the "One Voice" of mere federal stakeholder, advisor at the discretion
of an Executive agency implementing its Outcomes, or by future interference of a foreign federal agency.


Rather than grantees accepting the harmful bureaucratic administrative obfuscation the "MMAC"
offers, the Assembly advocates participation with Jefferson Mining District to assert direct protection or to
prepare remedy against the sort of Government Agency encroachment evidenced in this insidious "offer".

Those outside of the geographic jurisdiction of Jefferson Mining District are encouraged to create,
not facade administrative, but legitimate mining districts to protect, in the minimum, that "all valuable
mineral deposits in lands belonging to the United States, both surveyed and unsurveyed, shall be free and
open to exploration and purchase
, and the lands in which they are found to occupation and purchase," 30
USC 22, and to Guard each grantee who "shall have the exclusive right of possession and enjoyment of all
the surface included within the lines of their locations", 30 USC 26, including water, unfettered neither
trespassed nor infringed by multi-use, "multiparty and place-based groups utilizing ADR strategies" such
as Kumbaya "consensus-building, collaborative problem-solving, interest-based negotiating, mediating or
facilitating, and joint fact-finding to seek common ground and to identify or elicit shared goals" which
UNDER "One Voice" predicts will be Outcome-based consistent with the objectives of agency political or
ideological agenda, as law applicable to any "Advisory Council" requires must be, given "Cooperating,
collaborating, partner-shipping, or teams are subject to the agency final decision.

The cooperating
contributor is not much more than advisory, "(commensurate with available time and knowledge)"".
The Congressional mineral estate grant, pursuant to applicable mining law, does not provide power
or authority to such administrative servitude or encumbrance by non-grantees, or to Advisory Councils
such as proposed; To impose so, even by colorable inference, is Felony, as well, Fiduciary Trust Breach.

The Assembly reserves any further comment pending future remedy required to protect against the
sort of harms "MMAC" as collaborator in federal agency collusion can cause, part of The Method
enjoined, whether intentionally, by covert plan, or out of ignorance will be no excuse or immunity.
Duly read, deliberated, and decided of Assembly in unanimous consent.

ORDERED, to effect its purpose. '1~
Witnessed and Executed this I.WDay of March, 2015.
Ron
~~JJ~ Gibson.
Interim chairman.
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Of:;r;:~y of March, 2015.
Theo Stanley.
District Recorder.
 

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russau

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WOW ,that's a whole lot of legal sounding words that need to be dissected /digested / understood / and thought about by some people a lot smarted than I. knowing what each word or phrase means in legal terms usually means something else by any other way of understanding ! It was pointed out to me several years back how the mining laws (all of them) would interweave with each other and a person would have to research what / how they affect each other !
 

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It says MMAC can't do what it says they are in fact claiming they are doing.
 

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the petition is not about MMAC its against the Oregon Mining Association the OMA was started for the upland miners eastern oregon miners association
there has since been more coordination and meetings between all the other Oregon groups there was a meeting a few weeks ago.
Yes everyone has different opinions we need to put those aside and focus on repealing SB 838
 

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The JMD documentation provides answers, in law, as to this condition.

Why would you believe colluding with a criminal is better than arresting him or her?

What power in law does anyone have to interfere with a grant Act of Congress or another man's granted valuable mineral deposit property?

Given there is no individual power, What power in law, then, does a group of so-intended people have to interfere with a grant Act of Congress or another man's granted valuable mineral deposit property?

And what power in law does colluding with a BAR ASS member, agent/agency of the State, have to interfere with a grant Act of Congress or in the private property of another?

And why do those involved in doing these nefarious things, considering matters contrary to law, gang up in private, planning to interfere, believe that colluding with a BAR ASS member is not committing, or at least aiding and abetting, admitted felonies under color of law? The BAR ASS members agree they commit, or by omission, Felonies or worse and collude to undermine granted mineral and other property and appurtenant rights. See also the default judgment in proof through Docket: https://dockets.justia.com/docket/oregon/ordce/1:2013cv01147/112767/

See, the Oregon governor's Task Force on SB838 are felonies and that has now been clearly exposed as ineffectual felonious activity. So the current Oregon Governor and the Attorney General have decided to deny all wrong-doing and continue to abuse the Mineral Estate Grantee . . . using their wrong-doing attorneys. And for all those whom don't want to understand the actual grant and underlying responsibilities to protect the same would rather fall for that tactic subjecting themselves to a wrong-doing attorney.

And I understand, the BAR ASS members you reference working in collusion have just had their wings clipped and been told to stop their interference unless and until they can produce their competence in the mining law and the contract of representation from each miner they purport to represent. And they've also been warned to stop representing before the state government that they represent the entire mining community, in particular the grantees. When are you going to understand that common or mineral material aggregate is not the same as a valuable mineral deposit located under the Laws of the United States and to treat them the same as the attorneys and judges do, and MMAC as an advisor to an agency, is felonious conduct and fiduciary breaches? The JMD documentation clearly points this out.

You know or should know those acts or omissions are multiple felonies under federal and state law.

And you know or should know that what the aggregate BAR ASS attorneys are doing is the same felonies identified as what is being attempted by the MMAC. And if not, being the identification of those crimes are in the law to be read by anyone, why not?

So the remedy to what ails us is not aiding and abetting felonies, it is in knowing the mining law sufficiently to identify the felons amongst us; Those bringing us low, just like Buchal did to Rhinehardt.
You know or should know, contrary to the “advice” provided by BAR ASS member Buchal and others, there is no lawful requirement for a grantee to file a Notice of Intent or Plan Of Operations. That in advising doing so, BAR ASS member Buchal set up Rhinehardt and the rest of us for a fall. And if you don't know there is no requirement in law to file a NOI or POO, why not? It's all written for anyone to read the fact of the extent of the law, instead of agreeing to collude against yourselves and others with known, admitted, felons and federal or state agents, such as BAR ASS members, or other provocateurs.

By the way, those interested to understand this condition better can read the JMD documents and can attend the Jefferson Mining District meetings as scheduled: Jefferson Mining District & South West Oregon Mining Association

And while you are at the website, send the petition Jefferson Mining District | Protecting Public Domain Possession For Producers designed to notice of your direct objection to the criminal trespassers to your possession and exclusive control over your congressionally granted property, to those attempting to steal your/our possession and enjoyment under color of authority.
 

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