US considers mining limits in West to save sage grouse

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here is big media market article. US considers mining limits in West to save sage grouse - SFGate





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DENVER — The Obama administration offered five possible plans Thursday for limiting mining on federal land in the West to protect the vulnerable greater sage grouse, but it isn’t saying which it prefers.
The options range from banning new mining activity on about 15,000 square miles for up to 20 years to imposing no additional restrictions on mine locations.
The rules would affect sage grouse habitat on federal land in Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah and Wyoming.
Under all the options, mining and exploration projects already approved or under way could proceed. Energy companies could still extract oil and gas from any restricted lands, but they would have to use directional drilling from some distance away to avoid disturbing the surface.
After a public comment period ends in March, president-elect Donald Trump’s administration will decide which option to choose, if any.
It’s not yet clear whether Trump or his choice for Interior secretary, Republican Rep. Ryan Zinke of Montana, would continue to pursue the current sage grouse conservation plans, modify them or scrap them.
Also unclear was why the federal government did not list a preferred alternative for mining restrictions, which it normally does in this kind of review.
Republicans have berated President Obama for other last-minute environmental measures, including his designation Wednesday of two new national monuments, Bears Ears in Utah and Gold Butte in Nevada.
An estimated 200,000 to 500,000 sage grouse remain in 11 Western states, but their numbers are down significantly because they are losing habitat to development. The size of the sage-grouse population is considered an indicator of the overall health of the vast Western sagebrush ecosystem and other species that depend on it.
The proposed mining restrictions are part of a broad plan to save the chicken-size bird without resorting to the Endangered Species Act, which could bring stricter limits on mining, drilling, agriculture and other activity.
But the plan is under attack from both sides, with critics saying it is either too restrictive or too lax. Environmental groups and energy companies have filed lawsuits seeking to overturn all or parts of the plan.
The options for mining restrictions are part of a draft environmental impact statement drawn up by the federal Bureau of Land Management, part of the Interior Department.
 

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rodoconnor

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Wrapped in bacon and cooked over a sagebrush fire. Nothing better
 

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It couldnt have much to do with the infusion of Turkeys ( they eat nested eggs) in the Western states or the banning of leghold traps and prohibition of bounties on any mammals in California. As coyotes, mountain lions, skunks, fox and wild dogs never eat bird eggs or birds. Must be the miners and other people who use public lands.

Hey I could just publish this as a Masters thesis oooh wait I think they already did, No facts or proof required!
 

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Do we have enough thyme to eliminate the sage grouse before they become protected?

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How does mining effect grouse? They pick tailing piles for grit. What are the negative effects on grouse habitat?
Nice pun.The major problem for grouse is the Federally protected raven.They raid the nests and eat the eggs and hatchlings.Also the massive range fires have destroyed their nesting areas,leks.This is a direct result of the Feds severely curtailing graze allotments.
 

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While antelope hunting in S.E. Oregon a few years ago I dispatched a sick looking coyote (known to prey on newborn antelope) and within a day and a half the vultures and ravens left absolutely no sign of the coyote. It would seem like a convincing argument that these predators would have an effect on sage grouse populations which is being used for a political agenda. In Oregon you can put in for a drawing and are allowed to harvest two sage grouse, btw.
 

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It would seem the detrimental human impact on grouse is the Federal interference once again. The States' F&G Depts are far more in touch with reality.
 

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Nice pun.The major problem for grouse is the Federally protected raven.They raid the nests and eat the eggs and hatchlings.Also the massive range fires have destroyed their nesting areas,leks.This is a direct result of the Feds severely curtailing graze allotments.

Well maybe we could have the wacoenviromentalisterriorists EAT CROW for a change!
 

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Lol Russ. As if a Wacko extremist would ever admit he was wrong
 

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The Sage Grouse population is at it's highest in recorded history. The intent of the Sage Grouse study was to get it listed as an endangered species. In the end the facts found during the seven year study proved that the Sage Grouse is not only not endangered but the population of the Sage Grouse increased about 500% during the study period without any protection.

The Federal Fish and Wildlife took the Sage Grouse off all it's watched, threatened and endangered species lists and closed the study. The greenies led by Sally Jewel Secretary of the Interior were really POed that their plan to lock up all those western lands backfired. They were so POed that Sally withdrew the study areas anyway. Agency overreach at it's most extreme.

Eat all the Sage Grouse you want. They aren't protected and the way the Sage Grouse population is growing you won't even put a dent in the numbers. :thumbsup:

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Thankyou once again Clay for the real story! Just goes to show you where o's head is at! It looks to me that o and his party are out to do as much damage as possible be for he is out! Clay the facts you posted are one more thing I'd like to send to Trumps team on "Tell us your story"!
 

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To me, this made no sense. This was similar to saying that Mourning Doves are endangered.
 

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Around here the doves are in danger. They're in danger of becoming ground birds incapable of flight if Jan doesn't stop feeding them so much! Same with the coveys of quail that hang out on our property.
 

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