Oregon Obama withdrawal & monument

[winners58]

100,000 acre 20 year withdrawal
Obama administration blocks mining on 100,000 acres in Southern Oregon

expanded the Cascade-Siskiyou national monument by 48,000 acres 1/3 is private property
Obama expands Oregon?s Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument

Expansion Violates O&C Act http://www.healthyforests.org/monument_expansion_violates_o_c_act_undermines_federal_land_management
the white sections are private property;


whitehouse briefing room;
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations

 

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[wingmaster]

I don't see how they could do that with private property, I sure would have a hard time paying taxes on property if they done that to my property. The government knows no bounds do they.

 

[russau]

Theres a NEED to bring this to the TRUMP Administrations attention so they could roll it into the same movement to erase what has been dumped on us!

 

[Golden_Crab]

Theres a NEED to bring this to the TRUMP Administrations attention so they could roll it into the same movement to erase what has been dumped on us!

Trump already has plans to rescind all these land grabs, Obama is such a coward.

 

[russau]

100,000 acre 20 year withdrawal
Obama administration blocks mining on 100,000 acres in Southern Oregon

expanded the Cascade-Siskiyou national monument by 48,000 acres 1/3 is private property
Obama expands Oregon?s Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument

Expansion Violates O&C Act Monument Expansion Violates O&C Act, Undermines Federal Land Management - Healthy Forests, Healthy Communities
the white sections are private property;
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whitehouse briefing room;
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/proclamations

This ought to be passed on to the Trumps team at the "Tell us your story" that link was posted BUT I cant find it.

 

[Hoser John]

Trinity watershed SEGREGATION whilst the lousy BLM has 20 years to ponder- --what/if/maybe they want to study the whole 23 miles of river and all feeders also sic sic sic-John

 

[rodoconnor]

All the vindictive damage a lame duck can do. Just wait until the last 2 days and watch what he does to us.

 

[kcm]

All the vindictive damage a lame duck can do. Just wait until the last 2 days and watch what he does to us.

I started to hit the 'like' button - but suddenly just got this really queasy feeling in my stomach!

 

[rodoconnor]

Ha ha. I can understand. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

 

[winners58]

This ought to be passed on to the Trumps team at the "Tell us your story" that link was posted BUT I cant find it.

Trump transition, Tell us your story https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

I think on the withdrawal Congress can intervene within 90 days under section 204 of FLPMA

contact House & Senate Natural Resource's; Best Contact's to tell them the issues from Over-Regulation
https://naturalresources.house.gov/
U.S. Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources

 

[Bejay]

Here is the culprit ACT being currently used:

[https://www.nps.gov/history/local-law/anti1906.htm

This Act needs amending so that both houses must ratify within 90 days or its' use is deemed unwarranted !

http://www.theodorerooseveltcenter....Conservation/The-Antiquities-Act-of-1906.aspx

Action to take: http://www.heritage.org/research/re...quated-act-time-to-repeal-the-antiquities-act

Further: http://congressionalresearch.com/RS20647/document.php

I would say: Contact your Congressman: "But some see the proclaiming of a national
monument as a special category of action that may not simply be undone.
When a President issues a proclamation on matters either within the President’s
inherent powers or to execute a delegated authority, the proclamation has the force of
law."


Section § 204(j) of FLPMA, the Act that repealed most of the withdrawal authorities
of the President and Secretary of the Interior and imposed new Congressional controls
over large withdrawals that might be made by the Secretary after 1976, also specified that
the Secretary could not make, modify, or revoke any withdrawal created by Act of
Congress or “modify or revoke any withdrawal creating national monuments under the Act
of June 8, 1906 (34 Stat. 225; 16 U.S.C. 431-433) ....” This provision came from the
House bill, H.R. 13777, as introduced and as reported. The relevant committee report
states:
“[the bill] would also specifically reserve to Congress the authority to
modify and revoke withdrawals for national monuments created under
the Antiquities Act .... These provisions will insure that the integrity
of the great national resource management systems will remain under13
the control of the Congress.”
The conference report does not mention the provision.
The FLPMA language addresses only actions of the Secretary, while the Antiquities
Act is worded in terms of actions the President may take. Presidential proclamations
creating national monuments typically read that they “hereby” withdraw or reserve lands
– i.e. are a current withdrawal by the President. Arguably any subsequent actions taken
by a Secretary to carry out the withdrawals are more in the nature of record changes to............
Bejay

 

[wildminer]

The greenie groups in Ashland have been pushing this for years and they are getting this monument incrementaly (sp) a little at a time. They have already closed roads in very good deer hunting areas that are now ex deer hunting areas for me. I think they want to connect the Kalmiopsis and Red Buttes wilderness to these monuments and just keep on going east and hook up with the Sage Grouse country. Look out Idaho, here they come. Snowflakes headed your way! I certainly hope this can be stopped. I also would bet my bottom dollar that the current president has never set foot on this ground or ridden his little girly bike in this area, yet he is willing to control our use of our ground. Sorry for the rant, but this is my back yard and I'm po'ed.

 

[russau]

Thankyou winners58 !

 

[russau]

Here is the culprit ACT being currently used:

[https://www.nps.gov/history/local-law/anti1906.htm

This Act needs amending so that both houses must ratify within 90 days or its' use is deemed unwarranted !

TR Center - The Antiquities Act of 1906

Action to take: Time to Repeal the Antiquities Act

Further: Authority of a President to Modify or Eliminate a National Monument

I would say: Contact your Congressman: "But some see the proclaiming of a national
monument as a special category of action that may not simply be undone.
When a President issues a proclamation on matters either within the President’s
inherent powers or to execute a delegated authority, the proclamation has the force of
law."


Section § 204(j) of FLPMA, the Act that repealed most of the withdrawal authorities
of the President and Secretary of the Interior and imposed new Congressional controls
over large withdrawals that might be made by the Secretary after 1976, also specified that
the Secretary could not make, modify, or revoke any withdrawal created by Act of
Congress or “modify or revoke any withdrawal creating national monuments under the Act
of June 8, 1906 (34 Stat. 225; 16 U.S.C. 431-433) ....” This provision came from the
House bill, H.R. 13777, as introduced and as reported. The relevant committee report
states:
“[the bill] would also specifically reserve to Congress the authority to
modify and revoke withdrawals for national monuments created under
the Antiquities Act .... These provisions will insure that the integrity
of the great national resource management systems will remain under13
the control of the Congress.”
The conference report does not mention the provision.
The FLPMA language addresses only actions of the Secretary, while the Antiquities
Act is worded in terms of actions the President may take. Presidential proclamations
creating national monuments typically read that they “hereby” withdraw or reserve lands
– i.e. are a current withdrawal by the President. Arguably any subsequent actions taken
by a Secretary to carry out the withdrawals are more in the nature of record changes to............
Bejay

Bejay send all of this into the "tell us your story" link that winners just posted ! The more factual info we get into them, the better our chances of turning this around! and thanks for posting this!

 

[Bejay]

russau said: "Bejay send all of this into the "tell us your story" link that winners just posted ! The more factual info we get into them, the better our chances of turning this around! and thanks for posting this! "

I am not finding a "tell us your story" by winners....so I am in the dark on this!

 

[Kenmitch]

russau said: "Bejay send all of this into the "tell us your story" link that winners just posted ! The more factual info we get into them, the better our chances of turning this around! and thanks for posting this! "

I am not finding a "tell us your story" by winners....so I am in the dark on this!

Trump transition, Tell us your story https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

 

[kcm]

russau said: "Bejay send all of this into the "tell us your story" link that winners just posted ! The more factual info we get into them, the better our chances of turning this around! and thanks for posting this! "

I am not finding a "tell us your story" by winners....so I am in the dark on this!

Post #10 - this thread.

Trump transition, Tell us your story https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

I think on the withdrawal Congress can intervene within 90 days under section 204 of FLPMA

contact House & Senate Natural Resource's; Best Contact's to tell them the issues from Over-Regulation
https://naturalresources.house.gov/
U.S. Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources

 

[Oregon Viking]

What a load of crap!

 

[Bejay]

russau said: "Bejay send all of this into the "tell us your story" link that winners just posted ! The more factual info we get into them, the better our chances of turning this around! and thanks for posting this! "

I am not finding a "tell us your story" by winners....so I am in the dark on this!

Ok...did it. Hope it sends a message to cause change!

 

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