Wow

[Goldwasher]

I found this this morning

https://www.facebook.com/ron.larson.92/videos/10210891297935384/

 

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[Goldwasher]

I tried to find the segment on you tube but, couldn't. Here is another video by Ron Larson. I didn't watch it all yet to see if the same clip is in it. I don't know if you have to have Facebook to view the first video sorry.

 

[Asmbandits]

Never understood the thinking that heavy equipment in the waterway is less harmful to the environment than a dredge. These things are oil drippy, greasy messes 9 times out of 10, they leave track marks and a footprint wherever they have been not to mention whats needed to be done to the environment just to get them in the waterway is way more of a impact.. Seems arse backwards to anyone with a little common sense you would think..

 

[Goldfleks]

Looks like you just need to restore some trout streams right into your wash plant... Erm... I mean spawning gravel restoration plant.

 

[Goldwasher]

Heavy equipment and all the associated mess must drive up the budget/grant to much more APPRECIABLE amounts.

Letting miners do the work is to affordable and logical.

 

[Rasputin]

I live in Georgia and I remember years ago reading an article espousing the general wisdom that suction dredging was GOOD for a trout stream as the excavations created ideal beds for spawning. Enviro-terrorists have struck again.

 

[SunshineMiner]

Yup.... Salmonoids need a maximum of 25% compaction for spawning beds, any more than that and its difficult for them to create their "beds" to lay their eggs. Last time I checked.. a dredge reduces that compaction

 

[Golden_Crab]

I live in Georgia and I remember years ago reading an article espousing the general wisdom that suction dredging was GOOD for a trout stream as the excavations created ideal beds for spawning. Enviro-terrorists have struck again.

We'd be wise to make friends with the fishermen and hunters..

 

[Goldfleks]

We'd be wise to make friends with the fishermen and hunters..

Isn't there data involved by now at least on california rivers and streams on salmon and trout populations from 2002-2008 (Suction Dredge) and 2009-2016 (No Dredge). If Dedging is the root cause of the decline in salmon/trout there should be noticible increase in the populations over the last 6 years.

I tried looking into the data on the number of fishing licenses sold and looking to see if there was a corolation between an increase in population of people and the number of fishing licenses sold, but the data I found on Oregon licenses showed that the sale of fishing/hunting licenses was actually in decline. And that West Coast people are in many ways less outdoorsy and less involved in things like hunting/fishing than ever before.

Assuming that's true in California as well, there should be an increase in the fish populations. No Dredging, and less fishing.

But I think things like paving over the river/streams to control flood water, dams, commercial ocean fishing and 6 years of drought have a much larger impact on fish populations.

 

[Reed Lukens]

Ron Larson wants in the fight now, 15 years later and now that his state is under attack? Surprise, surprise... Well that proves the old saying - you reap what you sow...