Bought paydirt on ebay 5 pounds only .12 grams, is this normal ?

[GoldMine21]

I bought for the first time paydirt. It was 5 pounds of Whiskey Petes Gold on ebay. I paid $27.75 for the 5 pounds and was super excited. I expected to get at least 10 dollars worth in gold but I only had .12 grams of gold. I sluiced it and panned it about 10 times. I couldn't believe how little was in there. I know paydirt is for learning experiences, but is this normal for 5 pounds of paydirt for that price ? He has such good reviews I assumed it would be good dirt. Is .12 grams a lot for 5 pounds of paydirt bought online ? Can you recommend anyone that has better paydirt ? Like I said I know its for learning experiences, but I still expected a bit more than that, or is this normal ?

 

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[Goldwasher]

Catching gold is easy, actually you can do everything wrong with most sluices and highbankers and still catch gold. I've seen it done. Wrong angle, wrong flow, backward riffles, clay, mud, no classification, wrong feed rate, etc. and if there is good gold in the material some of it will still be recovered if enough of it is fed into the equipment. Watching Todd on Gold Rush proves that.

The trick is, recovering 95 to 99% of what runs through, especially if it is all fines and flour and precious little of it in the material being run. That's when all the tricks of the trade come into play. Most would not even waste their time with such poor material. But here in the mid west, where most all the gold has been ground down to fine and micro size as well as flour and powder size from glacial transport covering hundreds and hundreds of miles, it's all we have to work with.

Here if you feed a highbanker for 8 hours straight and get a 1/4 gram of gold you had a good day.

GG~

Say a fella picked , raked, wood chucked, rock chucked ,splashed, stripped ,swished, drag, flipped , heaved ,splashed , swished more, all the while raking and chucking...

That fella would spend all that time, an hour or two before ever feeding a shovel.
Would he feed it into something to lose gold?
If that material was about as ready to feed into a 36 prospector or 3/8
Inch classifier
A flat running sluice will more than keep up with.
You will lose some fines

BUT...meh?

Piggy back two sluices or like in the gold hog raptor flare. A run that is narrow and gets wider down the run......

HEY DOC

Tell the fellas how much gold you find in the second sluice!!!

Fast water every thing minus what 1/2 inch.

I prep my "raw material" for sluicing
Better than I would for a power sluice but even a gold hog or any grizzly hopper highbanking is going to have bits of clay if your shoveling clay.

Clay sheds more than it grabs unless you manhandle it too much.
IMHO don't press the potential gold into the too clay.

Clay clogging up recovery is probably more of a loss issue. Than robbing..


There a lot of stuff to ge out to the way and situated before you really move material.

If your trying to move material that is.

 

[Goldwasher]

The fines are in the box.

 

[Goldwasher]

anyone ever try one of them Drywashers?

 

[stephen583]

In fact, the first thing you guys did was try to con people into buying "pay dirt" off the internet. Next you tried to con people into believing stock sluice boxes bought off the internet are as good as homemade sluice boxes. Then you tried to con me into digging and hauling your dirt for you.

Hey kids. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck.. Guess what ? It's a duck ! Sorry fellas, I grew up on Bourbon Street in New Orleans where I later worked as a cop. I can spot a con coming from a mile off. You guys don't have anything I want, or anything I need. including your advise and snarky remarks. NUFF SAID ?

BTW Goldwasher nice pics, Where did you lift them from ? LOL.

 

[jeff of pa]

a Few posts have been Deleted Or Edited.

I don't care if your Old, new, Or Old member with a New Name.

Tone it down Please!

 

[fmrUSMC_0844]

I would think putting WD-40 in the pan would possibly work and keep the fine gold down. We use petroleum products where I work and it kills the bubbles which sinks the metals attached to them. But, on the flipside of that we also use another type of petroleum product that floats a specific mineral. Who knows. I wouldnt discount it without trying it myself.

As for classifying my dirt. I classify when I am running my Keene A51. But I dont classify while Im running my CalSluice.

 

[nh.nugget]

In fact, the first thing you guys did was try to con people into buying "pay dirt" off the internet. Next you tried to con people into believing stock sluice boxes bought off the internet are as good as homemade sluice boxes. Then you tried to con me into digging and hauling your dirt for you.

Hey kids. If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck.. Guess what ? It's a duck ! Sorry fellas, I grew up on Bourbon Street in New Orleans where I later worked as a cop. I can spot a con coming from a mile off. You guys don't have anything I want, or anything I need. including your advise and snarky remarks. NUFF SAID ?

BTW Goldwasher nice pics, Where did you lift them from ? LOL.

The only thing I have bought is a sluice. I build all of my own equipment! Yes some times a manufactured piece is better than homemade they did the research, testing, just ask Gold hog. And I didn't try to con you into digging dirt for me! I split everything that comes out of the ground! Here's some pics of my stuff just so you know! Notice the lack of muck and clay in my sluice

 

[Goodyguy]

Say a fella picked , raked, wood chucked, rock chucked ,splashed, stripped ,swished, drag, flipped , heaved ,splashed , swished more, all the while raking and chucking...

That fella would spend all that time, an hour or two before ever feeding a shovel.
Would he feed it into something to lose gold?
If that material was about as ready to feed into a 36 prospector or 3/8
Inch classifier
A flat running sluice will more than keep up with.
You will lose some fines

BUT...meh?

Piggy back two sluices or like in the gold hog raptor flare. A run that is narrow a ND wides

HEY DOC

Tell the fellas how much gold you find in the second sluice!!!

Fast water every thing minus what 1/2 inch.

I prep my "raw material" for sluicing
Better than I would for a power sluice but even a gold hog or any grizzly hopper highbanking is going to have bits of clay if your shoveling clay.

Clay sheds more than it grabs unless you manhandle it too much.
IMHO don't press the potential gold into the too clay.

Clay clogging up recovery is probably more of a loss issue. Than robbing..


There a lot of stuff to ge out to the way and situated before you really move material.

If your trying to move material that is.

The proof is in the pudding and your pudding sure looks good to me!
Wish I had ground like that to work here in Indiana.

I would trade a few lost fines for cleanups like that any day.
Don't get the idea that I spend much time getting my bank run material ready to run because I don't.

And by the way are you allowed to discharge your bank run material into the stream like that? Not that it bothers me any, it's common practice in my neck of the woods but I thought Kali had strict rules about that. What is the currant rule I'm not sure?


GG~

 

[Goodyguy]

The only thing I have bought is a sluice. I build all of my own equipment! Yes some times a manufactured piece is better than homemade they did the research, testing, just ask Gold hog. And I didn't try to con you into digging dirt for me! I split everything that comes out of the ground! Here's some pics of my stuff just so you know! Notice the lack of muck and clay in my sluice

Like your DIY dredge, bowl, and shovel. Well done

GG~

 

[Goldwasher]

The proof is in the pudding and your pudding sure looks good to me!
Wish I had ground like that to work here in Indiana.

I would trade a few lost fines for cleanups like that any day.
Don't get the idea that I spend much time getting my bank run material ready to run because I don't.

And by the way are you allowed to discharge your bank run material into the stream like that? Not that it bothers me any, it's common practice in my neck of the woods but I thought Kali had strict rules about that. What is the currant rule I'm not sure?
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GG~

Having a year that you take so many pictures of the High water line. and document it

In stream work. thats all it is.

This years water has moved the majority of what you see there plus a whole heck of a lot more . Its pretty awesome.

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

Clay sheds more than it grabs unless you manhandle it too much.
IMHO don't press the potential gold into the too clay.

Clay clogging up recovery is probably more of a loss issue. Than robbing..

Clay balls WILL rob nuggets out of a sluice box if the gold is laying there on top waiting to be grabbed.
I know this because we have found clay balls chock full of nuggets in older mining areas. I think one had 30 pickers in it! Granted, their boxes were hundreds of feet long and had nuggets dispersed throughout the entire length from miners shoveling alongside the sluice so there was a pretty good exposure time.

In my mind, greasy material that will form clay balls is different than most clay we see in gravels.

 

[WVPapaw]

Paydirt

I bought for the first time paydirt. It was 5 pounds of Whiskey Petes Gold on ebay. I paid $27.75 for the 5 pounds and was super excited. I expected to get at least 10 dollars worth in gold but I only had .12 grams of gold. I sluiced it and panned it about 10 times. I couldn't believe how little was in there. I know paydirt is for learning experiences, but is this normal for 5 pounds of paydirt for that price ? He has such good reviews I assumed it would be good dirt. Is .12 grams a lot for 5 pounds of paydirt bought online ? Can you recommend anyone that has better paydirt ? Like I said I know its for learning experiences, but I still expected a bit more than that, or is this normal ?

I just bought 5 lb pay-dirt off Ebay also. I have not panned it yet as I am saving it for my grandkids. I purchased the pay-dirt that was advertised as unprocessed with gold added. it was the same price you paid. Someone told me to get the unprocessed dirt because that way you know they did not remove big nuggets or most of the gold. Of course, I am trusting them to be true to their word. I will let you know what we find.

 

[Goldwasher]

Clay balls WILL rob nuggets out of a sluice box if the gold is laying there on top waiting to be grabbed.
I know this because we have found clay balls chock full of nuggets in older mining areas. I think one had 30 pickers in it! Granted, their boxes were hundreds of feet long and had nuggets dispersed throughout the entire length from miners shoveling alongside the sluice so there was a pretty good exposure time.

In my mind, greasy material that will form clay balls is different than most clay




Of course there is no way to test. But, what if the clay that was fed already had a crap ton of gold stuck to it and that's what didn't shed in the sluice run.

Betcha that was a common situation.

Explain how a clay ball has enough weight to roll by a piece of gold and pick it up................

 

[nh.nugget]

I have to laugh! We have someone saying we're con men. we don't know our azz from a hole in the ground, wouldn't trust us to change a spark plug! Spending all our money on crap! Just so you know ALL of my equipment totals $850. How's those dowser rods work for ya! Why don't you post some pics of your accomplishments? Lets see this steel sluice of yours I need a laugh this morning, don't forget to add the WD-40 too!

 

[nh.nugget]

So basically what you're saying is your just here to aggravate those of us who enjoy what we do. Come on don't insult our intelligence. If you're happy mining your way and we're happy our way so be it! But don't be bashing on people you don't know. There are other places for that like IDK Facebook! I don't care if you sell your gold we all do.

 

[Goldwasher]

A rake, a pitch fork and hydraulics are all used to get material ready to run. using a classifier and buckets would take forever. I get excellent recovery.

Doesn't matter according to you they aren't even my pictures.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Stephen583, your a new member so maybe you haven't read our rules. We do not allow insulting of other members so please tone it down. There is a link in my signature for our rules, please read them.

 

[stephen583]

Kids, if you don't think a Garret Pin Pointer is a piece of garbage, just buy one.. then take a couple of nice big pickers and drop them into a bowl of dirt and push them down about 8 inches with your finger (cover em up) and wave that Garret Pin Pointer over them. It's gonna be as quiet as as wake. I bought one and tested it 20 years ago. It's good for maybe two inches. Sometimes even then it didn't work. They're total garbage !

Dowsing rods ? Yeah I use' em.. and they work consistently, regardless of the depth of the gold. People have only been using them for around 4,000 years to detect buried treasure at unbelievable distances and depths. Why would I rely on a piece of garbage Garret Pointer instead of a set of rods ?

 

[deserdog]

Kids, if you don't think a Garret Pin Pointer is a piece of garbage, just buy one.. then take a couple of nice big pickers and drop them into a bowl of dirt and push them down about 8 inches with your finger (cover em up) and wave that Garret Pin Pointer

Well duh!!!!!!! Pin pointers are not designed to detect items at 8"!!!!! But to pin point the item in your hole from close by!!!!!