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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybravo300 View Post
    For a guy with so few cattle on land with no food or water it sure was a big deal to get his money haha. That part was never in question.
    I wonder if the amounts received would pay for the amount of resources spent.
    It's funny how the term idiot can be relative.
    Even the IRS knows when to give it up.
    The following may answer your question:

    Nevada Bundy Prosecution Collapses: The Federal Government Spent a Quarter-Billion Dollars but Couldn’t Convict the Bundys of a Single Crime
    By Roger I. Roots, J.D., Ph.D.
    January 12, 2018
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/01/...-single-crime/
    In 2013 the federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) obtained federal court orders authorizing the agency to “seize and remove to impound” hundreds of Cliven Bundy’s cattle on the public ranges around Bunkerville, Nevada. The agency interpreted these court orders broadly, and descended on the area in April 2014 with some 200 body-armor-wearing agents, semiautomatic weapons, sniper teams, undercover informants, and surveillance cameras aimed at the Bundy residence.
    The BLM brought more than corralls and horse trailers. They brought backhoes, dumptrucks and earth-moving equipment to tear up water lines and other infrastructure that had been built by Bundy and his ancestors over decades. Defying county officials, the federal officers chose calving season–the very time when cows and newborn calves are most physically weak and vulnerable–to execute the court orders. They orchestrated a paramilitarized roundup operation using helicopters to terrify the cattle into stampeding to the point of exhaustion in extreme heat. At least 40 cows either died from the ordeal or were shot by BLM employees and contractors.
    The Feds even used the impoundment order to establish “First Amendment Zones” limiting freedom of speech in a 600,000-acre area to two small isolated parcels in the desert. It was almost certainly the largest infringement of First Amendment rights (by area) in American history.
    When Bundy’s son Dave stopped on a state highway to photograph BLM snipers on local hillsides, BLM agents threw him down, ground his face into asphalt and falsely arrested him. And when other family members stopped a BLM dump truck to inquire if the truck was carrying dead cows, BLM agents erupted in a flurry of violence.

    Are "Miners" next?
    With this kind of money on the line may not just be ranchers any more.

    BLM & FBI Exposed or How the Bundy’s Got Released
    https://redoubtnews.com/2017/11/blm-...ndys-released/
    There was a sealed hearing this morning. The court discussed the false narrative that the prosecution has been perpetuating. I am sure they did not call it that, but nonetheless, it is what it is.
    The government has been trying to get everyone to believe many false statements, beginning with Cliven owing more than a million dollars in grazing fees. As we showed, they never sent a bill for grazing fees to the Bundy Ranch, however, the fees for trespassing cattle was less than $9,000. They added their own administrative fees to it which brought the total to less than $300,000. Far less than the $1.1 million they have been repeating through their controlled and biased media.
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    There it is. That's the bomb right there.

    The blm was so excited to use all their new military equipment that they forgot there is something called due process haha. That darn constitution keeps getting in the way of their cool new toys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybravo300 View Post
    There it is. That's the bomb right there.

    The blm was so excited to use all their new military equipment that they forgot there is something called due process haha. That darn constitution keeps getting in the way of their cool new toys.
    More maybe coming out after January 25, 2018. Time will tell.
    Cliven Bundy has talked about "Land documents" just don't know yet.

    Letter to the editor: Sen. Collins should reject poor choice for BLM chief
    https://www.pressherald.com/2018/01/...for-blm-chief/
    I urge Sen. Susan Collins to reject the nomination of Karen Budd-Falen to run the federal Bureau of Land Management. She is an anti-government, anti-environment ideologue and should not be at the helm of this important bureau.
    Budd-Falen has represented rancher Cliven Bundy, the anti-government extremist who led an armed standoff on public lands. As a lawyer, Budd-Falen worked to reject the conservation of endangered species, lift protections on lands and undermine and sue BLM staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildminer View Post
    I felt that I have apologized for starting this thread even though the mods have stated that it is mining related as it relates to the BLM. However the constant derogatory name calling is causing me to lose respect for someone I once respected. One thing for sure is we are all human and make mistakes.
    It does belong here, it's flat out another BLM Land grab using the desert tortoise as an endangered species for the excuse. It's headed by the center for biological diversity, Sierra club, etc. Once again the cbd tried to get the blm to remove the cattle, so is the problem really the BLM? NO! It's the environazi's behind it once again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Lukens View Post
    It does belong here, it's flat out another BLM Land grab using the desert tortoise as an endangered species for the excuse. It's headed by the center for biological diversity, Sierra club, etc. Once again the cbd tried to get the blm to remove the cattle, so is the problem really the BLM? NO! It's the environazi's behind it once again...
    Yes this one agrees. However this one is not going to talk much about this as some may take it as "Political". The 'Due process' can effect anyone including "Miners" etc.
    Thanks for pointing out Reed Lukens.
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    Love the source!!! The fountain of alt-truth, fake news, news reporting on the alternate, ever evolving universe of Bannonworld. Oooops, I forgot, if it's from the web, it must be the truth.
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    He wasn't refused a permit.

    He refused to pay.

    Due process?

    He had three rounds of court and lost them all. The court ordered this in 1998 and BLM didn't act.

    The court decided the cattle needed to be removed and ordered Bundy to stay away during the round up.

    They openly stated they would face the BLM and anyone else with arms.

    If you don't think the BLM or any agency is going to escalated and be ready to stomp at that point.

    Well, you haven't been paying attention.


    The sick thing is that there are hundreds of "supporters " that actually want another Ruby Ridge or Waco. Anything to justify their beliefs and political idealogy.

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    What is a Bundys' favorite 4x4?

    Jeep "Bandwagoneer"

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    Why would anyone want another Waco or Ruby ridge. That doesn't even make sense.

    The feds have looked bad from day one and they can't even suck their guts in for the camera. Last thing they'd want to do is go up against this force of armed men.
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    Maybe they should challenge Bundy to a pie eating contest.
    Last edited by Johnnybravo300; Jan 16, 2018 at 10:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnybravo300 View Post
    Why would anyone want another Waco or Ruby ridge. That doesn't even make sense.

    The feds have looked bad from day one and they can't even suck their guts in for the camera. Last thing they'd want to do is go up against this force of armed men.
    Bundy standoff defendants want Nevada federal prosecutors removed from case
    Robert Anglen, The Republic | azcentral.com
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...se/1031353001/
    Defendants in the upcoming Bundy Ranch standoff trial say Nevada federal prosecutors need to be disqualified and removed from the cases they launched two years ago.
    The defendants, including two of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's sons, want a judge to bar the entire Nevada U.S. Attorney's Office from prosecuting the case.
    In a motion filed late Friday, four of the five remaining defendants say Nevada prosecutors have multiple conflicts of interest and should be viewed as potential witnesses if the case goes forward.
    They say the entire prosecution team needs to be replaced because they could be called to testify in court about recently revealed documents raising questions about their conduct.
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    The area in red is the allotment Bundy always paid to graze in. The hashed/lined area is the whole area that he started letting his cows trespass.

    The area the court ordered all cattle removed from.

    You can see how overboard Bundy went. It's silly to run cattle that far from your base ranch. It is farther than he ran them historically and per his "grazing rights" he wouldn't have been allowed to back then.

    He had to push it. It wasn't BLM overstepping.

    The confrontation at the round up was dumb on both sides.

    Though BLM was in the right to round up his cattle.


    The new ( potential) wilderness areas actually left most of historic range open. he still could have run cattle.

    There is no major mining going on anywhere that pushed him out or had anything to do with his decisions or actions.

    Mostly Copper, tungsten, lead. molybdenum nickel. Some gold some silver and pg group.

    No one has been pushed out over uranium or and land grabs.

    So, many parroted talking points and narrative keywords backing his movement and in the discussions online.

    All disproven.

    Very few facts shared in his support are even true they are just repeated beliefs.

    It's sad to watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwasher View Post
    There were conditions when states joined the Union.

    Every agency and the rules they are directed to follow are sent down right from congress.

    There are absolutely "Federal Public Lands" out side of D.C.

    If what Bundy believed were true the 1872 mining law would not exist.

    As the only place it has power is those very lands you and he say do not exist............
    Article I, section 8, clause 17 of the U.S. Constitution gives the feds control of 10 square miles of Washington DC. It further states that land within the boundaries of a state may only be acquired if they first have the consent of the state legislature. The federal government is limited in itís acquisition of land to four purposes, military forts, arsenals, dock-yards, and other needful buildings-------------------There was no military fort---arsenal---dock yard---or other needful buildings on this land. Having the Government dictate what they are allowed to do is in DIRECT opposition to the Constitution and Bill of Rights----and having a government court rule for themselves is a farce.
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