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    Bundys free case thrown out

    http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...-1-640x200.jpg Oops, script did not post. Anyway a win for public land users.
    Last edited by wildminer; Jan 08, 2018 at 05:54 PM. Reason: no script

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildminer View Post
    http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...-1-640x200.jpg Oops, script did not post. Anyway a win for public land users.
    The link goes to a image of but defendants. Not the article FYI.
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    The thing about this that really upsets me is just how much time and money the government wasted by not following the laws. Is it really so much to ask that the government plays by the rules they want us to? Im not a big fan of a lot of how the Bundy group has approached all of this but it is hard to really have any solid opinion one way or the other on the situation with the government muddying the water.

    Also this thread probably will not last very long as its relevance to prospecting is tenuous at best (I guess mining related lawsuits?).
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    Judge dismisses federal charges against Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who calls himself ‘a political prisoner’
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a1bb7f8c8e9d
    A federal judge on Monday dismissed criminal charges against Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who rose to national prominence during his armed standoff with government authorities in 2014 as he challenged their authority over federal lands.
    The dismissal was the latest defeat for government officials prosecuting Bundy and his relatives in connection with a pair of showdowns with federal authorities, first on Bundy’s home turf and then, two years later, when his sons led an armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge.
    U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro dismissed the case against the rancher, two of his sons and a Montana militiaman, just three weeks after she declared a mistrial in the case against Bundy. Navarro had ruled that government lawyers suppressed key evidence that would have been favorable to the defendants’ case — including suppression of evidence from FBI surveillance cameras recording the Bundy family home and the presence of federal snipers around the property ahead of the standoff, among other omissions.
    LAS VEGAS, Jan 8 (Reuters) - A federal judge on Monday threw out a criminal case against a Nevada rancher and three other men over a 2014 militia standoff with federal agents, saying prosecutors had repeatedly withheld evidence from the defense.
    https://af.reuters.com/article/commo.../idAFL1N1P313I
    Cliven Bundy emerges free, defiant after Nevada case tossed
    Cliven Bundy emerges free, defiant after Nevada case tossed - LA Times
    "We're not done with this," the 71-year-old Bundy declared in his first minutes of freedom since his arrest in February 2016.
    The family patriarch and states' rights figure said he had been held as a political prisoner for 700 days and promised that if U.S. Bureau of Land Management agents come again to seize his cattle over unpaid grazing fees, they will encounter "the very same thing as last time."
    "The whole world is looking at us," he said. "'Why is America acting like this? Why are we allowing the federal government, these bureaucracies, to have armies?' That's a big question the whole world wants to know."
    The stunning collapse of the federal criminal case against Cliven Bundy and his sons Ryan and Ammon marked a new low for government lawyers whose work is now under review by the Trump administration. Prosecutors have faced several losses in Oregon and Nevada arising from armed Bundy standoffs over federal control of vast stretches of land in the U.S. West.
    U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions launched an investigation into the Nevada case last month after Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro declared a mistrial. On Monday, she dismissed outright all 15 counts against Bundy, his sons and Montana militia leader Ryan Payne.
    "The court finds that the universal sense of justice has been violated," Navarro said as audible gasps and sobs erupted in a court gallery crammed with Bundy supporters.
    It comes after prosecutors failed to gain full convictions in two trials against six other defendants who acknowledged carrying assault-style weapons during the April 2014 confrontation outside Bunkerville, 80 miles (129 kilometers) northeast of Las Vegas.
    Jurors in Portland, Oregon, also acquitted Ryan and Ammon Bundy more than a year ago of taking over a federal wildlife refuge in early 2016 and calling for the U.S. government to turn over public land to local control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by what View Post
    The thing about this that really upsets me is just how much time and money the government wasted by not following the laws. Is it really so much to ask that the government plays by the rules they want us to? Im not a big fan of a lot of how the Bundy group has approached all of this but it is hard to really have any solid opinion one way or the other on the situation with the government muddying the water.

    Also this thread probably will not last very long as its relevance to prospecting is tenuous at best (I guess mining related lawsuits?).
    Thanks for the reply. I guess you go along with the U.S. Forest Service and their shenanigans as well as expanding national monuments and wilderness areas and road closures. Go ahead and report me to the mods for making a tenuous posting if you wish. Patriot John (VN combat 66-67, not relevant)

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    The Bundy's in the past said they have some documents about the lands? Time will tell on this. Just don't know at this time. There could be some other documents of interest as well that may come out?
    Cliven Bundy: 'We're Not Done With This'
    http://www.chieftain.com/news/nation...29a64bc94.html
    Last edited by Assembler; Jan 08, 2018 at 11:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildminer View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I guess you go along with the U.S. Forest Service and their shenanigans as well as expanding national monuments and wilderness areas and road closures. Go ahead and report me to the mods for making a tenuous posting if you wish. Patriot John (VN combat 66-67, not relevant)
    I dont think that it is necessary to assume my views based on a single post or a to take such offense at anything I said. Nothing I said even implies what you took from it. In fact what I said criticizes the government for its wasteful misadventures in violating peoples rights and not following its own laws...

    I understand this is a very upsetting issue and it upsets me quite a bit too so I hope you can reread my post with a cooler head. Anyone with eyes can see the shenanigans USFS/NPS/etc are up to and how wrong they are... That said the USFS and NPS or even USFWS had nothing to do with the Bundy case as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by what View Post
    I dont think that it is necessary to assume my views based on a single post or a to take such offense at anything I said. Nothing I said even implies what you took from it. In fact what I said criticizes the government for its wasteful misadventures in violating peoples rights and not following its own laws...

    I understand this is a very upsetting issue and it upsets me quite a bit too so I hope you can reread my post with a cooler head. Anyone with eyes can see the shenanigans USFS/NPS/etc are up to and how wrong they are... That said the USFS and NPS or even USFWS had nothing to do with the Bundy case as far as I know.
    But the USFS is once again involved in another murder...
    Family attorney says Miller was unarmed when shot and killed by Forest Service officer | The Verde Independent | Cottonwood, AZ

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    not mining related...and the Bundys' are annoying as hell and did do things that they should not have for years.

    That a non rancher would not get away with.

    The whole Bundy saga is just dumb

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    Mining related (uranium) and blm related!
    Here is the blm whistleblower Larry Wootens 18 page report.
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    it's disgusting.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwasher View Post
    not mining related...and the Bundys' are annoying as hell and did do things that they should not have for years.

    That a non rancher would not get away with.

    The whole Bundy saga is just dumb
    This post is just plain sad, period.
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    I hope he sues them for millions. They need to be held accountable for what those families have been through. They killed his father in cold blood in front of his family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwasher View Post
    not mining related...and the Bundys' are annoying as hell and did do things that they should not have for years.

    That a non rancher would not get away with.

    The whole Bundy saga is just dumb
    It is BLM and so related enough to be allowed.

    All, please keep politics out thread.
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    Sorry for bringing up controversy, however it is what it is and I stand by it being an important issue. Good luck with the gold. I'm outa here.

 

 
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