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  1. #31
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    You could have bought a cheap plastic sluice for hardly anything and been catching gold since this thread started.
    Building stuff doesnt help if it never gets done. Just buy what you need and get to it.
    The old timers built stuff cuz they had to. Not cuz they wanted to or didnt have anything else to do. They didnt have Angus sluices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodsEarth View Post
    Hey everyone I’m looking for some tips on a cheaper high bank sluice build I’m putting together. My thoughts as of right now (Keep in mind I’m keeping it very budget friendly), is going 10” wide 36”-48” long with Gold Owl matting. I’m making everything out of wood and I’ll have a little 72cc gas powered water pump and 3/4” pvc piping for water delivery. I’ll have the jet holes in pvc shooting up as well as in from the sides.

    I’m looking for tips on how much water flow I should aim to have. The pump does about 2300 GPH.

    roughly what angle should I have it at? I’ve heard 1” drop per foot.

    Is 10” too wide?

    I’m building it all out of wood to save some money.

    ALL TIPS APPRECIATED! I plan on building it tonight.

    Thanks,

    Adam
    The punch plate idea I suggested in post #19 could be made from wood as well. I don't think wood is an ideal material choice for a sluice box mainly due to weight but I understand your reason. But if you decide to upgrade to metal I recommend going to a metal recycler first you might find something in their yard that is bent in the shape you need and is cheap, it is the first place I go to when I am going to build a project out of metal.
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    I love Wood, Wood is great!
    The more Wood the better, Where would we all be without Wood?

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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambrinus View Post
    The punch plate idea I suggested in post #19 could be made from wood as well. I don't think wood is an ideal material choice for a sluice box mainly due to weight but I understand your reason. But if you decide to upgrade to metal I recommend going to a metal recycler first you might find something in their yard that is bent in the shape you need and is cheap, it is the first place I go to when I am going to build a project out of metal.
    big problems. I tried to make an abs punchplate. Wood will have the same issue.

    It is not as hard as the material passing over and through it. The holes quickly clog with pebbles not big enough to make it they dig in.. larger material doesn't help pass it through by impact like with steel or aluminum.

  5. #35
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    Man I’m glad I joined this forum. Great tips and advice, it couldn’t be better. Thanks everyone. I decided to go the aluminum route. After looking around for cheap aluminum I just went to home depo and picked up some and I’ll bend it myself. I’ve been running around panning here and there at the river that my property buts up to and I wanted to see if you guys think this is gold. I’m real new to prospecting so I can’t tell. I know there was a lot of pyrite in the pan floating and bouncing all over the place but this one tiny flake was at the bottom and was hard to separate from the black sand. I singled it out in the picture so hopefully you can see it.

    Just want to make sure I’m doing it right and looking for the right thing when chasing gold. Don’t want to end up with a handful of pyrite.
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  6. #36
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    Picture looks like crap I give up lol. Looks a lot better in person

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    I recommend buying a bag of "paydirt" online. Dont waste your time with anything that calls itself "unsearched" or other nonesense. Buy one that tells you how much gold you are getting. Practice panning it over, and over. I recommend getting a plastic cement mixing tub to use as a panning tub. Panning is a skill that needs practice. Big gold is simple, its the flour-gold that is so freakin hard and slow to pan out.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodsEarth View Post
    Man I’m glad I joined this forum. Great tips and advice, it couldn’t be better. Thanks everyone. I decided to go the aluminum route. After looking around for cheap aluminum I just went to home depo and picked up some and I’ll bend it myself. I’ve been running around panning here and there at the river that my property buts up to and I wanted to see if you guys think this is gold. I’m real new to prospecting so I can’t tell. I know there was a lot of pyrite in the pan floating and bouncing all over the place but this one tiny flake was at the bottom and was hard to separate from the black sand. I singled it out in the picture so hopefully you can see it.

    Just want to make sure I’m doing it right and looking for the right thing when chasing gold. Don’t want to end up with a handful of pyrite.
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    Here is one thing that I always do when I am not sure what I am looking at is gold. Gold has a golden yellow hue in full AND shaded/indirect light.....even tiny pieces. Virtually every thing else that looks like gold/has a golden color in full light loses it's color when shaded. Do that test and see what happens.

    Good luck.
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    one of the rules of thumb I think I got from doc at gold hog is 10 gallons per minute per inch of sluice width. I have made my grizzlies out of drilled plate I like room to work the material back and forth so my grizzilly is 5 feet long their are mats in both the distruction chamber and under the grizilly and then I have a stack of expanded metal to help meter the flow of gravels and sand down the rest of the mats. most of my matts are home made with some gold hog mats. my latest idea is cutting drop slots 1/4 inch wide and 1/4th inch deep in conveyor matting with a router. have also tried making silicone mats and like all the hiding spots lego blocks give ( not to mention you get to play with legos. I am going to try drop slots with sluice gates in them to see if I can get more fine gold. idea from a beach sand miner in new zealand who posted a paper on his design on the internet. my sluice set up was 35 feet over all last year ran a set up of 20 or 25 feet found gold all the way down both times . when you talk about your spray bars I like staying dry and have found the best ( IMHO) is a 5/8 inch nozzel blasting up into the distruction chamber where the gravel is dumped or shoveled in. shooting acrost at an angle it swerls around and really liquifies the pay dirt. also it does not splash as much and at the very top of the chamber it tends to concentrate the biggest gold. the 5/8th stream of water shoots under thwe pay gravel and churns it and since it is crossing sometimes the material curcles around two or three times before dropping out on the grizzily and therefore it gets reqally waashed so no dirt chings to the rocks. I built my first sluice out of steel from top of a torn down brick wall ( the kind that seperateas factory areas for keeping fire from spreading to fast the brick goes abover the roofing) heavy though alumian I got from an uncle in law that makes roll cages for side b6y side off road vehicles
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  10. #40
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    If you use 1/4" screen as a grisly, you'll get the best of almost all worlds. Pickers over 1/4" are rare, finer gold will wash through and the bigger rocks will slide away
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  11. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by seafox View Post
    one of the rules of thumb I think I got from doc at gold hog is 10 gallons per minute per inch of sluice width. I have made my grizzlies out of drilled plate I like room to work the material back and forth so my grizzilly is 5 feet long their are mats in both the distruction chamber and under the grizilly and then I have a stack of expanded metal to help meter the flow of gravels and sand down the rest of the mats. most of my matts are home made with some gold hog mats. my latest idea is cutting drop slots 1/4 inch wide and 1/4th inch deep in conveyor matting with a router. have also tried making silicone mats and like all the hiding spots lego blocks give ( not to mention you get to play with legos. I am going to try drop slots with sluice gates in them to see if I can get more fine gold. idea from a beach sand miner in new zealand who posted a paper on his design on the internet. my sluice set up was 35 feet over all last year ran a set up of 20 or 25 feet found gold all the way down both times . when you talk about your spray bars I like staying dry and have found the best ( IMHO) is a 5/8 inch nozzel blasting up into the distruction chamber where the gravel is dumped or shoveled in. shooting acrost at an angle it swerls around and really liquifies the pay dirt. also it does not splash as much and at the very top of the chamber it tends to concentrate the biggest gold. the 5/8th stream of water shoots under thwe pay gravel and churns it and since it is crossing sometimes the material curcles around two or three times before dropping out on the grizzily and therefore it gets reqally waashed so no dirt chings to the rocks. I built my first sluice out of steel from top of a torn down brick wall ( the kind that seperateas factory areas for keeping fire from spreading to fast the brick goes abover the roofing) heavy though alumian I got from an uncle in law that makes roll cages for side b6y side off road vehicles

    Ionly got as far as 10 gpm per inch of width... so 100 gpm for the most common small sluice size.

    yea..NO!

  12. #42
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    Wooden sluice? get a router!

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  13. #43
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    Tnet is full of threads just like this one. Some go on for 10 or 20 pages and by the end hes no closer to the gold. Weeks after posting guys dont even know if they have gold yet and they want to build highbanker. They always refuse to start at the beginning. I never do understand this.
    A highbanker wont help you bro. You say your in a creek, get a sluice box. Learn to use a pan.
    You could have been shoveling and stockpiling paydirt all this last week and your busy reinventing the wheel instead and still dont know if you have gold.

    This is what burns people out the fastest in this trade imo. Dont put the cart ahead of the horse. Use your energy where you need it. Your just wasting resources at this point.
    Last edited by Johnnybravo300; Dec 31, 2019 at 10:02 AM.

  14. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwasher View Post
    big problems. I tried to make an abs punchplate. Wood will have the same issue.

    It is not as hard as the material passing over and through it. The holes quickly clog with pebbles not big enough to make it they dig in.. larger material doesn't help pass it through by impact like with steel or aluminum.
    That makes sense. Did you counter sink the holes on the underside of the plate for steel or aluminum? I am sure it helps with that problem but not sure if it was necessary.

  15. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambrinus View Post
    That makes sense. Did you counter sink the holes on the underside of the plate for steel or aluminum? I am sure it helps with that problem but not sure if it was necessary.
    It does help with metal punch. though It never clogs enough for me to motivate myself to put a camber on all those hole. I looked into prefab and was not gonna pay the price. I haven't looked at metal mart in Sac. yet.

    The abs punch ended up with 75% plus holes jammed with pebbles after the first test run. i don't think a camber on the underside would have changed that.

 

 
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