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    Anyone using Lithium batteries for their pumps?

    Thinking of getting rid of my lead batteries for lighter lithium to power my high banker or power sluice pumps and wondering who else is using these and what their experience is? It seems like the lithium batteries have improved the past few years and have also come down in price enough to consider, especially due to the weight savings. From what I've read they can be discharged lower than lead batteries while still keeping good power to the pump. Curious to hear real life stories.
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    Yes, I love them. I'm going to pick one of these large one's up, I have the smallest now and it works fine with my 100watt solar panel... if there's sun. Or I can put it on it's charger.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JV8X181...ing=UTF8&psc=1

    I mounted it in this ammo box and put in the switches. The bigger one will fit in the larger ammo box. I bought this one as a test 3 years ago and it works fine with the charger or solar, but it just runs a few hours alone... but it was $200 when I bought it. More then the biggest one now... but I run it and it runs well.
    Get the big one, you'll be happy
    Get the largest charger for it, not the trickle charger because it's a waste. I'm going to put a lot of info on my set up on my journal in the next couple of days. I plan on running twin 2200gph Johnsons on my Gold Fox trommel and I will run the trommel motor with the small battery if needed.

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    I would be worried about draining the battery to low, does that type of lithium battery have a low voltage cut off built in to it? if not you will damage the battery every time it goes below voltage... If this is news to you might wanna read up on lithium batteries....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post
    I would be worried about draining the battery to low, does that type of lithium battery have a low voltage cut off built in to it? if not you will damage the battery every time it goes below voltage... If this is news to you might wanna read up on lithium batteries....
    This must be why my cordless drill just stops at a certain point with no apparent slowdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No gold in NY View Post
    This must be why my cordless drill just stops at a certain point with no apparent slowdown.
    Yes sir, lithium's can actually combust if ran to low...
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    The battery I listed is a "Smart Battery" and can't be overcharged or fully discharged. It's one of the first things listed... A battery with a computer built in. I've ran mine down until everything stopped once or twice when I had a fault on my charger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed Lukens View Post
    The battery I listed is a "Smart Battery" and can't be overcharged or fully discharged. It's one of the first things listed... A battery with a computer built in. I've ran mine down until everything stopped once or twice when I had a fault on my charger.
    These are the type I've been looking at.
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    Yes, I have a smaller one to run my puffer, which Iíve also used with my gold cube on occasion. Itís pretty amazing when you donít have to lug a big heavy lead acid battery into a site!

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    I've switched to AGM, though lithium would be better in the weight department. A 35 Ah AGM will drop after a 36 bucket run on my Model 5 (3x 800 gph), but be ready in time for another run with 100W of solar input.
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    Here's the AGM battery I use. Next to it is the old one.

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    Here is the one I use.
    https://dakotalithium.com/product/da...fepo4-battery/

    It runs my gold cube (1500 and 1100 gph pumps and my trommel) with no problems all day. I love it! Did I mention it only weighs just over 6 lbs and has an 11 year warranty and can be charged by solar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bow View Post
    Here is the one I use.
    https://dakotalithium.com/product/da...fepo4-battery/

    It runs my gold cube (1500 and 1100 gph pumps and my trommel) with no problems all day. I love it! Did I mention it only weighs just over 6 lbs and has an 11 year warranty and can be charged by solar.
    The price may turn some off but IMO LiFePo4 batteries are the only way to go for efficiency as they run at full power until they run out of power....pumps etc. Do not gradually slow down they go and go until battery runs out and then they just stop. Light and compact so highly portable.
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    Good input, thank you! In a quandry now. New Washington rules ban "motorized" mining, which is why I'm looking at the Lithium batteries for my high banker. New law says no "motorized". New fish and gold pamphlet says electric pumps ok. Now getting emails from Fisheries people saying that they interpret the new law as battery pumps are motorized. It seems like the state of Washington has had a team of monkeys get together to write the laws, and non of the monkeys talked to each other before sending it all out.

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    Good input, thank you! In a quandry now. New Washington rules ban "motorized" mining, which is why I'm looking at the Lithium batteries for my high banker. New law says no "motorized". New fish and gold pamphlet says electric pumps ok. Now getting emails from Fisheries people saying that they interpret the new law as battery pumps are motorized. It seems like the state of Washington has had a team of monkeys get together to write the laws, and non of the monkeys talked to each other before sending it all out.
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    Just wanted to input on lithium batteries. Pretty much all commercial lith ion batteries have circuits built into them to prevent overcharge and over draining which lends to the possibility they will catch fire or become damaged. For charging you want a charger thats designed for the battery your charging as they have the control circuits as well to prevent to fast of a charge and overcharge (the batteries own circuitry can be problematic sometimes), which can damage the battery.
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