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    Ed Tracy

    Jan 2015
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    Does the National Pollution Discharge Elimination System really apply to placer mining on a river. All the mining I have done here in Washington State has been done with no pollutants, all discharge into the river is from the river and banks and that is natural not a pollutant. It is legal to use a sluice and pan here in Wash. ST. but cannot use my electric high-banker now, where is there logic. It would wiser for WDFW to apply this to fisher man that use lead weights and also to go after all the towns and cities that pollute Washington state waters, but we few miners are there scape goats, sad.

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    Just Another Old Guy

    Feb 2008
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    I am trying to believe that the new rules are so out of line with science and truth that they will be modified to a more common sense ruling....Oh wait, it's the government just following the more extreme and money donating environmental and sport fishing PAC lobbyists requests for fear of more expensive litigation

    Ever see the damage to the river bottom a jet boat does going thru shallow water, you can follow the trails of disturbed gravel easily
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    I'm a drinker with a heavy prospecting problem and I'm out of dirt again

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    Feb 2015
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    I believe the requirement of an NPDES permit per the Clean Water Act has been one of the major tools that California (then OR and WA) has been using as a roadblock to miners and has been a main point of debate (although there really is no question it's absurd) for some time. Hopefully, someone who knows more will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the supreme court of Oregon recently ruled that a suction dredge is considered to discharge a pollutant and therefore require the permit. Very bad.
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    Just Another Old Guy

    Feb 2008
    Grays Harbor in Washington state
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    In 3 years I'm outta this state
    Won't be able to afford the taxes, the fishing/hunting lisc., the lack of fish to catch due to under management , the huge logging road access permit fees, some of the highest gas taxes in the country and don't get me started on the sin tax for smokes and alcohol. Now about all I can do is retire my pumps, dredge and high banker and just use a pan or small sluice until the time comes to move to a little bit more sane place
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    I'm a drinker with a heavy prospecting problem and I'm out of dirt again

 

 

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