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    Family dies in Mariposa county due to possible mineshaft gasses

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/us/yo...rnd/index.html

    Be careful out there guys. I've prospected in that area before and I swear I could smell something unpleasant in the water in the creeks there like gas. Authorities are still unsure what killed the family, no obvious signs of death/wounds and best theory so far is either mineshaft gasses from the old mines in the area or algae bloom in the creeks.

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    Carbon monoxide from a mine shaft sounds unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebird View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/19/us/yo...rnd/index.html

    Be careful out there guys. I've prospected in that area before and I swear I could smell something unpleasant in the water in the creeks there like gas. Authorities are still unsure what killed the family, no obvious signs of death/wounds and best theory so far is either mineshaft gasses from the old mines in the area or algae bloom in the creeks.
    Always need to be careful!Lots of things can go bad for the unwary or the uninformed.
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    wow.sorry to hear this,please keep us posted.
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    if it smells unfamiliar ease on back a bit

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    Don,t forget your eyes.If it don,t look good or right,it probably isn,t.

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    The old saying is : stay out , stay alive ! Makes a lot of sense to me!

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    Old wooden houses have an attraction for me,but old rotten wood is not conducive to future good health.Stay out,stay alive sounds like good advice!
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    POSSIBLY carbon dioxide from an underground thermal vent. Been known to replace the oxygen in the air and kill everything within sight. Interesting to know if dead birds or animals were nearby.

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    Exclude Carbon monoxide unless you have a mine fire.and the police reported there were no open mines near where the family was found.
    i have explored many old mines and never found Carbon monoxide in old underground mines. other gases yes but never Carbon monoxide.
    toxic algae also unlikely unless they were drinking the water.

    peat fire is more likely because of the dry weather in the area for the last couple years and the old fire burn in the area where the bodies were found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by islamoradamark View Post
    if it smells unfamiliar ease on back a bit
    I apply this logic / tactic to every bottle of rum i encounter.

    So... i ease on back and go slower.

    :P
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    Never saw a bottle of rum that I didn't like !
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    What was the gas fumes that killed the father and son on Oak Island in 1965?

    Once again, Oak Island had thrown up a maddening, intriguing clue. After a while you start asking yourself, What is real? How do you separate fact from fiction? Where's the truth?

    At one extreme is Mildred Restall. "You see that vase over there?" she asks angrily, pointing to a white vase on her windowsill. "There's no such thing as the truth anymore. You can say that vase is black long enough until you believe it and it becomes the 'truth.' That's what I mean about Oak Island. Where did they get the idea that there's something down there? I ask you, Where?"

    Mildred Restall has good reason to ask the question. While most Oak Island treasure hunters gave up their careers and life savings for the hunt, she gave up much more: the lives of her husband and first-born son.

    It happened on August 17, 1965. She and her husband, Bob, had been living on the island since 1959 while he hunted for the treasure. What happened that muggy day has never been entirely explained. Restall apparently was inspecting one of his pits when he blacked out and toppled in. His son Bobby came to his rescue, but when the other workers arrived they saw both father and son lying in the black water at the bottom. Four of them descended and were quickly overcome by fumes in the pit. Two were rescued but the others, along with the Restalls, died--by drowning. The toxic gas was never identified.
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    Here at work we keep Hydrogen Sulfide gas detectors for when employees have to enter lower levels and tanks. It is a natural byproduct of vegetation/plant decomposition and also thermal vents, and sinks in air to low spots. In lower concentration it smells like rotten eggs. But in a lethal level it overpowers your sense of smell and before you notice a problem it's too late. OSHA recognizes it as a hazard in mines.

    https://www.osha.gov/hydrogen-sulfide

    This comes to mind because it was found to be the cause of death of 5 bison in Yellowstone not too long ago - out in the open but in a gully.


    I think the Oak Island well incident was because the Restalls were operating gas equipment at the mouth of the shaft and the fumes sank into the hole. Carbon monoxide poisoning. Don't know if that was ever the official finding.
    Last edited by Charlie P. (NY); Aug 23, 2021 at 11:27 AM.
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    Last I read they have ruled out the Death from GAS possibility and that they were now treating the deaths as a homicide.
    #TEXIT!

 

 
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