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  1. #1
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    Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    I've seen videos on YouTube of people using small excavaters to feed small trommel, washplants, etc and was wondering what the rules and regulations of using a small excavator/backhoe on a unpatented claim are?

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    I would say if the claim is on private property it's between you and the property owner unless of course that's you. I don't believe the USFS or BLM would allow it.

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    On a mining claim with certain size equipment you have to file a plan of operation..if you want to be legal.Good luck on that if your in California......https://www.google.com/search?source...1448l0.3.4l7l0

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    You would have to file a Notice of Intent before the Plan of Operation, if you plan on keeping it small and less than 5 acres you may not need the Plan of Operations. The USFS is supposed to reply within 15 days so I would do your research and be carefull of what you put in the Notice of Intent. Lets just say LESS IS MORE....

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave wiseman
    On a mining claim with certain size equipment you have to file a plan of operation..if you want to be legal.Good luck on that if your in California......https://www.google.com/search?source...1448l0.3.4l7l0
    Davo,I see an operation down at Hanselman Hill,by Briskeys yard....they are scooping up the creek and running through a trommel....never thought I would see that in these times!I dont see how they are going to reclamate the creek?
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon



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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Sounds like the death penalty to me Mr. Kuger..Isn't Hanselman's Hill by the fairgrounds?Don't follow this stuff but how could they get any kind of permit for that kind of work?Someone mentioned the other day something about a trommel being parked in town,perhaps that's the one.Fish & game might burn them for killing the crawdads,fresh water clams,lichen and protozoa.Your talking about along the side road which leads to Briski's yard,correct?Bart,worked the tertiary channel there for awhile.Those fellows must have a brass pair,but the judge will work em' over.

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave wiseman
    Sounds like the death penalty to me Mr. Kuger..Isn't Hanselman's Hill by the fairgrounds?Don't follow this stuff but how could they get any kind of permit for that kind of work?Someone mentioned the other day something about a trommel being parked in town,perhaps that's the one.Fish & game might burn them for killing the crawdads,fresh water clams,lichen and protozoa.Your talking about along the side road which leads to Briski's yard,correct?Bart,worked the tertiary channel there for awhile.
    Yep,where Drago used to let everybody pan,until that ye hoo took up residence there and put it in the paper.....I dont know how they are getting away with what there doing either?They arent very well hid....you can see it right off the highway
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon



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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Total insanity,hope their truck has a salvage title and their equipment is rented.Will ask my source about that trommel in the morning at Rodz Grille.

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave wiseman
    Total insanity,hope their truck has a salvage title and their equipment is rented.Will ask my source about that trommel in the morning at Rodz Grille.
    Let me know my friend
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon



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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Is it Patented land ? Or do they have a Notice of Intent or Plan of Operation that they got Ok'ed. You have the right to the minerals no matter where they are on your claim.

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Not sure Jog.....I just can not imagine them being able to legally be able to do what they are doing!
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon



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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    If the USFS or BLM claim that they own the land and also the ground under the creek or river then that gives you the right to mine it as long as you have the proper permits. Patent land is even better yet.

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    Re: Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    I understand that....it is private land,but with the endangered species,storm water pollution controls and all of the other regs that go along with anything to do with a water way,I cant see how in the hell you could be tractor scooping the whole freaking creek bed up!!But hey,they are so more power to them
    M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon



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    Using heavy equipment on unpatented placer claim?

    Heavy equipments are used for many things in construction business.

 

 

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