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    I have some green rock, its solid, some with black spots. Copper based, but what could be here?Click image for larger version. 

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  2. #17
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    Pat, I was looking at the first shot it seemed that there was powdered limestone or sandstone behind it .. It looks like you have a Granite (ballista or bubble from deep within the surface that was given plenty of time to cool off IE the quartz veins, and mineralization.) Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	782200 the red and greens being Iron and Copper mineralization. It could also be carried on the surface by water or ice to an area its not from. the second picture you have is definitely granite, it has pockets of hot gas in it from when it formed. These typically form 22km under the surface and are thrust up via Volcanic activity , plate movement or earthquake, then cut back by erosion.

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    I got some rocks I need some help on, I will post them as soon as I can.
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    Caska what you have is The kaolin sepentine group kaolinite, dickite, nacrite and halloysite, mixed with Serpentite group chrysotile, lizardite, berthierine

    Talc pyrophyllite group Pyrophyllite, Infused with Mica group muscovite, paragonite, roscoelite, caladonite, illite, phengite, serecite, biotite, phlogopite

    Smectite, And vermiculite group montmorillonite, beidellite, nontronite, saponite, stevensite, vermiculite Including Chlorite group chlorite, clinichlore, chamosite, nimite, pennantite.

    To tell ;you what the composite minerals are in Laymens terms.. you have a high copper ore with a massive infusion of minerals Iron to Gold, Titanium Talc, and many others, With a Clay base. Clay makes it a nightmare to process. Hydrothermal alteration results from the interaction of hot waters with rocks to form clay minerals. This is not uncommon in epithermal deposits and results in clays persisting at unexpected depths. The phenomena of hard quartz rock with interspersed clay (5 to 15% clay) as a result of hydro-thermal fluids, is quite deceptive with regards to how it will process. It looks like a hard rock but the contained clay will cause processing problems such as poor settling and filtering.IE: The mineral processing problems are not unique to one mineral type. They cover gold, copper, uranium, lead zinc, iron ores and nickel projects. Clays have a major impact on various unit operations including thickening and filtration to such an extent that these unit operations cannot be used on some ores.

    I get massive amounts of copper clay in my ores at times and it is a nightmare to process... but the yields have been impressive. Yes you are in a good area.. but i would double think the "get gold quick" thought... it will take alot to get it out see:Click image for larger version. 

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    Caska what you have is The kaolin sepentine group kaolinite, dickite, nacrite and halloysite, mixed with Serpentite group chrysotile, lizardite, berthierine

    Talc pyrophyllite group Pyrophyllite, Infused with Mica group muscovite, paragonite, roscoelite, caladonite, illite, phengite, serecite, biotite, phlogopite

    Smectite, And vermiculite group montmorillonite, beidellite, nontronite, saponite, stevensite, vermiculite Including Chlorite group chlorite, clinichlore, chamosite, nimite, pennantite.

    To tell ;you what the composite minerals are in Laymens terms.. you have a high copper ore with a massive infusion of minerals Iron to Gold, Titanium Talc, and many others, With a Clay base. Clay makes it a nightmare to process. Hydrothermal alteration results from the interaction of hot waters with rocks to form clay minerals. This is not uncommon in epithermal deposits and results in clays persisting at unexpected depths. The phenomena of hard quartz rock with interspersed clay (5 to 15% clay) as a result of hydro-thermal fluids, is quite deceptive with regards to how it will process. It looks like a hard rock but the contained clay will cause processing problems such as poor settling and filtering.IE: The mineral processing problems are not unique to one mineral type. They cover gold, copper, uranium, lead zinc, iron ores and nickel projects. Clays have a major impact on various unit operations including thickening and filtration to such an extent that these unit operations cannot be used on some ores.

    I get massive amounts of copper clay in my ores at times and it is a nightmare to process... but the yields have been impressive. Yes you are in a good area.. but i would double think the "get gold quick" thought... it will take alot to get it out see:Click image for larger version. 

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    Dusted, chemically, how far apart are Turquoise & Chrysocolla? They look very similar and have some of the same minerals.

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    Click image for larger version. 

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    Rick they are just a hair apart:

    Chrysocolla is a hydrated copper silicate mineral with formula (Cu,Al)2H2Si2O5(OH)4∑nH2O.

    Turquoise is a hydrated copper silicate mineral with formula CuAl6(PO4)4(OH)8 • 4H2O

    The major difference is that Chrysocolla is a stalagmite in formation and was used by Greeks and Romans as Flux. due to its lack of Phosphorus.
    Turquoise has the Phos and tends to cup or repel gold and silver within it instead of bonding to it.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    GSXraddict , I would venture that it is a metamorphic foliated Shist or granite... but i seen some green at the tip.. do you have a little clearer picture?

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    Thanks, I wondered why it was kicking my butt. Man I pan buckets of samples that I gathered and take home. There is plenty of this about 30' up on the banks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustedyou View Post
    GSXraddict , I would venture that it is a metamorphic foliated Shist or granite... but i seen some green at the tip.. do you have a little clearer picture?
    it's all green and white, rough texture. I don't have another picture, I left the rock at my dads house in another state.

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    Here is a link to a post that i made a while back but noone was able to help. Perhaps someone here may have an idea. Thanks!

    Nugget Thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustedyou View Post
    Pat, I was looking at the first shot it seemed that there was powdered limestone or sandstone behind it .. It looks like you have a Granite (ballista or bubble from deep within the surface that was given plenty of time to cool off IE the quartz veins, and mineralization.) <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=782200"/> the red and greens being Iron and Copper mineralization. It could also be carried on the surface by water or ice to an area its not from. the second picture you have is definitely granite, it has pockets of hot gas in it from when it formed. These typically form 22km under the surface and are thrust up via Volcanic activity , plate movement or earthquake, then cut back by erosion.
    thank you dustedyou.so does it contain any precious metals or precious rocks?
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    Checkman... ok so you have found Nickeline or niccolite is a mineral consisting of nickel arsenide, NiAs, containing 43.9% nickel and 56.1% arsenic.
    Small quantities of sulfur, iron and cobalt are usually present, and sometimes the arsenic is largely replaced by antimony. This last forms an isomorphous series with breithauptite (nickel antimonide).
    While rare it is Extremely Toxic. Click image for larger version. 

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    This is a sulfide minerals are a class of minerals containing sulfide (S2−) as the major anion. Some sulfide minerals are economically important as metal ores. The sulfide class also includes the selenides, the tellurides, the arsenides, the antimonides, the bismuthinides, the sulfarsenides and the sulfosalts.[1][2] Sulfide minerals are inorganic compounds.
    Apparently the Germans after not being able to get the copper or nickel out of it and becoming sick decided to blame the "Ore Spirit" Old Nick for cursing the the metal.
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    you have a form that is much like Valleriite in that it is completely malleable, and soft to the touch.
    for more info on sulfides check out Sulfide minerals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia excellent place to start.. love the rare Specimen tho m8! Sweet RARE! be careful!

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    PATfreak ... not so much on the first one but http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/at...3585401546.jpg that one you just posted is yummy!Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	782627 That is a sweet vein with all kinds o mineralization... good source of gold to say the least.. i would crush and pan .. or just stare at it for a while..then crush and pan.. hehe the Quartz Iron copper and molybdenum is exuding thru it and .. well Yumm!
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