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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by calabash digger View Post
    What you call silly I call serious... The hobby is fun BUT in the end I am in it to find artifacts....
    Saying you find just as much with a detector that tops out around 8 inches might hold true for your sites.....Come to some on my relic sites and you might get your feelings hurt with the guy swinging a detector that reaches down to a foot..
    You are correct. I don't take it as seriously as you may. If I don't find much, I still enjoy the activity it provides. Like golf, some wrap their clubs around a tree if they mess up. I see the physical benefits, not the mental liabilities. Those 2 more inches I could get by spending 4 times as much money doesn't keep me up at nights.

    I'm reminded of the find in India where a man and his son found a roman coin cache worth millions at 6" with an Ace 150. Some are deep. some not so. I have learned over the years that finding the right area to detect through education produces more than someone with a depth demon coming behind others to spend their time digging the deep stuff left behind.

    BTW= Anyone who owns a LRP can testify that the AM mode (with TID) can find coins in the 10"/11" range.

    It's all about what floats yer boat.
    Men in denim built our country. Men in suits are destroying it.

  2. #32
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    My boat floats different...am mode is useless on my sites unless of course you want dig a five gallon bucket of nails. To each his own I know what works for me .

    Jas 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by calabash digger View Post
    You can believe this! I dont have a love affair with any brand and let someone bring a new machine to market that trumps the Deus and Equinox and I will be the first to have it.....Those guys posting above about the garrets are oblivious to whats going on and I bet have NEVER put them up against another detector.

    Sites are number 1 but machines are very important too...Let a guy go to a iron loaded site with a subpar detector and let a skilled detectorist come in there with a GREAT performing detector. Someone is gonna be singing the blues...
    So you criticize Garrett users by saying they're "oblivious" to what's going on. Maybe we don't care. They have never put them up against another detector? Why do we have to have a competition? Is this a hobby or a war? Every one of your replies shows the buttons, coins, and relics you most likely found using your "NOX" and you show a "Best Finds" issue of W&ET. Well buddy.....I happen to have a coin in that same issue, it's GOLD and I didn't find it with a NOX. So if you love the NOX I'm happy for you but as I said previously, thanks but no thanks, I'll use and enjoy my Garrett AT Pro.

  4. #34
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    Found those with my Deus....you really dont want me to put the garrets up against it..lol Gold coin nice ,I have two finds on the cover...GW R6 or R7 value 5 TO 6 known and a John Adams cufflink well under 10 examples known. Neither found with Equinox..

    If you want to use a mediocre performing machine by all means go ahead....my threads are really for the ones looking for the top performing detectors made….tie a pinpointer to a stick and you will eventually find something...what does that prove?
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    Jas 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

  5. #35
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    Calabash I must admit I do watch your videos and what I think is happening is this. You went through several units and found what you like and want to tell the world about it so they too can get better results with that new unit your talking about on your video. However, some machines just work better in different parts of the USA than others do but a lot of guys do not see it this way. All they see is you bashing the AT pro from your video. Maybe that is why you do not allow comments on your videos. It is not that your not trying to get other people excited, it is just some guys are not going to change because they like their unit, and that is all.
    Last edited by bigtim1973; Aug 31, 2019 at 09:49 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by calabash digger View Post
    Found those with my Deus....you really dont want me to put the garrets up against it..lol Gold coin nice ,I have two finds on the cover...GW R6 or R7 value 5 TO 6 known and a John Adams cufflink well under 10 examples known. Neither found with Equinox..

    If you want to use a mediocre performing machine by all means go ahead....my threads are really for the ones looking for the top performing detectors made….tie a pinpointer to a stick and you will eventually find something...what does that prove?
    OK, so you found them with your Deus.....so what? tie a pinpointer to a stick? is that all you're about...bashing people who use a Garrett? And bragging about what you've found? if ANY or EVERY other detector is better than a Garrett who cares? YouTube videos don't make you a movie star so we mere mortals will use whatever machines we like and enjoy them. in the meantime you can go use your Deus and NOX and feed your ego.
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  7. #37
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    I believe what Calabash has successfully and clearly demonstrated in his video is simply a comparison of older technology vs newer technology; single frequency vs multi frequency; slower processor vs faster processor.

    It's true of any high tech piece of equipment...as technology marches on, things get better, faster, smaller, more capable and often times less expensive. E.G. was I able to make phone calls on my iPhone 3? Yes. Can it's capability compare to my iPhone 8? No. Can the AT Pro still find good targets? Yes Can it do it as efficiently as the EQX in the more challenging conditions that Calabash set up? No. Does that mean the AT Pro is junk? No. Has the AT Pro technology been improved upon and now surpassed? Yes.

    I'm certainly not bashing the AT Pro or those who use it. I'm all for using what you like, are comfortable and proficient with and use to have fun with in this hobby.

    As I always say, all this is just the view from my personal foxhole....soldier on and have fun doing it...regardless of what you swing.
    ~The Challenge: Big Beach; Little Coil; Tiny Targets~

    ~"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication"~ Leonardo da Vinci

    ~Pre-determined settings serve only to get you in the ballpark. Itís up to you to pick the best seat~

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clad2Silver View Post
    OK, so you found them with your Deus.....so what? tie a pinpointer to a stick? is that all you're about...bashing people who use a Garrett? And bragging about what you've found? if ANY or EVERY other detector is better than a Garrett who cares? YouTube videos don't make you a movie star so we mere mortals will use whatever machines we like and enjoy them. in the meantime you can go use your Deus and NOX and feed your ego.
    You brought up the gold coin and the magazine......If your that in love with your Garrett keep it. I showed you and the others it has a BIG weakness compared to the Equinox. BTW the Nox will handle hot ground better too ..

    Garrett marketing is the best in the business as far as I am concerned. They have convinced the masses the AT Series is unrivaled in the detector world.....takes about 5 minutes with a Equinox to blow that out of the water.

    BTW look at all the finds in my avatar. 97% came from the thick iron and have cases with hundreds of other relics that came from the iron. I think I qualify to speak on how machines handle the thick iron.

    At least Andy Sabicsh thought so and asked me to put my Deus iron program in his book....


    You might not like what I say but IF you would listen you would be a more proficient detectorist hunting in the iron. If for just one simple reason only, I showed you a more capable detector for pulling targets from the iron...

    The Equinox with 11 inch stock coil will out separate the AT series with small coil that so many praise......showed it on video multiple times.

    If all the Garrett fans want to keep swinging their AT pro s no sweat of my back ……..

    Where are all the videos on youtube of the Garretts whipping the Minelabs?
    They dont exist !
    WHY
    If my videos were flawed on the Garrett surely some Garrett fan boy would have made one to disprove my findings... In 2 years of Garrett testing videos I have not seen one yet!

    My videos are not for the mere mortals who just want to FEEL good about their detectors. My videos are for the people who want KNOW about how their detectors perform.
    Last edited by calabash digger; Sep 01, 2019 at 07:19 AM.

    Jas 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

  9. #39
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    Interesting video, however one thing I noticed is that you used the stock coil on the Pro. I would think that it should have a greater chance at finding a coin/relic in an area loaded with iron if you used the smaller 5x8 inch coil. I know you wanted to show both machines with stock coils, but if you know you are searching an iron loaded site, wouldn't you want to switch to a smaller coil with any machine? Not criticism, just an observation.
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    Coins: King George II halfpenny, Connecticut copper,1864 & 1908 IHP, 1921 Peace Dollar, 1908 Barber Quarter, 1906 V Nickle, 3 1920 merc dimes, 1943 Quarter

    Relics: Vermont state seal button, early belt knife, shoe buckle fragments, 1789 George Washington Inaugural Button, 1916 dog license, skeleton key, colonial silver cuff link, early brass thimble, many flat buttons of different metals and sizes

  10. #40
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    Smaller coil aint that good have videos showing how weak it is in iron...Contrary to popular belief!

    Jas 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

  11. #41
    Will it not separate, go deep, or what?
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  12. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by calabash digger View Post
    You brought up the gold coin and the magazine......If your that in love with your Garrett keep it. I showed you and the others it has a BIG weakness compared to the Equinox. BTW the Nox will handle hot ground better too ..

    Garrett marketing is the best in the business as far as I am concerned. They have convinced the masses the AT Series is unrivaled in the detector world.....takes about 5 minutes with a Equinox to blow that out of the water.

    BTW look at all the finds in my avatar. 97% came from the thick iron and have cases with hundreds of other relics that came from the iron. I think I qualify to speak on how machines handle the thick iron.

    At least Andy Sabicsh thought so and asked me to put my Deus iron program in his book....


    You might not like what I say but IF you would listen you would be a more proficient detectorist hunting in the iron. If for just one simple reason only, I showed you a more capable detector for pulling targets from the iron...

    The Equinox with 11 inch stock coil will out separate the AT series with small coil that so many praise......showed it on video multiple times.

    If all the Garrett fans want to keep swinging their AT pro s no sweat of my back ……..

    Where are all the videos on youtube of the Garretts whipping the Minelabs?
    They dont exist !
    WHY
    If my videos were flawed on the Garrett surely some Garrett fan boy would have made one to disprove my findings... In 2 years of Garrett testing videos I have not seen one yet!

    My videos are not for the mere mortals who just want to FEEL good about their detectors. My videos are for the people who want KNOW about how their detectors perform.
    If you want to promote the wonders of the NOX and the Deus go ahead, I'm sure they're both very good machines but why bash Garrett and the folks who use them? Most people who detect are basic hobbyists who are just looking to spend some time outdoors and dig a few coins so our "pinpointers on a stick" are all we need. Not everyone is after what you're after. And if Garrett has "convinced the masses" that their detector is the best in the business does that mean that the users are all a bunch of gullible fools? Why should I listen to you as you just mentioned? I'm not on this forum to listen to YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clad2Silver View Post
    If you want to promote the wonders of the NOX and the Deus go ahead, I'm sure they're both very good machines but why bash Garrett and the folks who use them? Most people who detect are basic hobbyists who are just looking to spend some time outdoors and dig a few coins so our "pinpointers on a stick" are all we need. Not everyone is after what you're after. And if Garrett has "convinced the masses" that their detector is the best in the business does that mean that the users are all a bunch of gullible fools? Why should I listen to you as you just mentioned? I'm not on this forum to listen to YOU.
    Bravo to you Sir. I share your sentiment, and feel that the OP purposely "skews the reviews". It's click bait IMHO.

  14. #44
    I'm not in the market for a machine. Looking at some of your recent new threads, I had to chuckle.

    For instance: 3 Reasons not to buy an AT Pro

    Also: And yet another flooded Equinox

    Also: Another flooded Nox

    and not to miss: My Nox is toast.

    The picture you have painted all by yourself is the AT Pro is not up to the task of modern MD'ing, but the quality control and sturdiness of the Nox is icky.

    Lovely. You wrote them. Don't complain.
    Last edited by smokeythecat; Sep 01, 2019 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoinHunterAZ View Post
    Bravo to you Sir. I share your sentiment, and feel that the OP purposely "skews the reviews". It's click bait IMHO.
    I don’t really care if you think I skew the reviews now your calling me dishonest about a metal detector. Buy yourself a go pro and prove my results are wrong ... oh how far the brand loyal love affair people will go to defend their precious... give me a break !

    If what I showed was false some Garrett fan boy would have posted a video to show it.

    Jas 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

 

 
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