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    Found large ancient Greek coin, returned to Owner same day

    .Found large ancient Greek coin while detecting in waist deep water parallel to shore.
    I could tell by the mellow multivariable tone on the Excalibur II 1000 that the target was an alloy with possibly some gold as it was lower in pitch than pure copper or sliver but higher than gold. From its clean sharp yet mellow tone I suspected that it might be a large medallion. As the sand was soft, I carefully pinpointed the target while in the discrimination mode and positioned myself and timed it so that the incoming current would push the target into the scoop while retrieving. The glint from gold around the dark mustard yellow coin (most likely bronze) was heart stopping.

    While searching for the chain, I learned from a search team that it had been lost the day before by a school teacher, who showed it to all of his students to inspire them. This coin was especially important to him as it had been given to him by his mother who had recently passed away.
    I had the lifeguard who personally was taught by that teacher and who had seen the coin medallion many times call the teacher to pick it up.

    I know I should feel great for doing the right thing :but I felt absolutely awful retuning. It is amazing on how quickly you can become attached to an item of antiquity once you hold it in your hands. I wish all of you could touch it, but that is not possible. It is about the size of a silver dollar and is dark mustard in color. There is a bust of Caesar on the front and a horse which has sprung into the air on the rear. It is worn, but you can still read the markings. I do not know enough about history as why they refer to it as a Greek Coin (maybe Greece was part of the Roman Empire at that time).

    I was emailed copies of the coin, which I requested, by members of the search team as I did not have a camera. I will post them later to this thread as soon as I figure out how.

    Pictures are posted in later thread " Pictures of Ancient Greek or Roman Coin"
    Any information on ruler, date of coin, orgin would be highly appreciated.
    Last edited by River Rat; Aug 20, 2013 at 07:40 PM. Reason: Dates need to be verifies

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    I suggest you run a masterclass on identifying alloys and medallions for the good of all Excaliber/Sovereign owners.

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    Fantastic thing you did. Well worth being able to sleep at night vs knowing who the owner was and keeping it.
    God and country.

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    I suggest you run a masterclass on identifying alloys and medallions for the good of all Excaliber/Sovereign owners.[/QUOTE]

    I will leave that to you and other more capable detectorists than myself Brian.

    Somedays, I am able to clearly hear and indentify with the multivariable tones of the Excalibur on the beach I hunt.
    other days I am not even on the same section of the beach. This was one of the days, I got it right.
    Ulnlike where you hunt, it is rare to find old coins where I hunt.
    I just wanted to share the excitement of that one day, I got it right - nothing else.

    I did not mention for brevity, but identification of targets is a process.
    When I have sufficient time, and do not have to worry about competition, I sweep the coil over areas where there is a high probability of targets at a faster sweep speed usually walking South to North parallel to the beach with the Excalibur set at maximum discrimination, minimum sensitivity, medium to comfortable volume to detect shallow coins that are highly conductive such as copper, copper clad, and silver as the blaring return from these coins when shallow hurts my ears. If I get a lot of targests or the discriminator nulls as it cannot lock on the target I will slow down. I later return, especially where I have found heavy old targets with the volume set as as loud as my hearing will endure (I use wet sponges in the head set to baffle the return) and slowly sweep the area with the coil with minimum discrimination, maximum sensitivity usually in a tight West to East Pattern (perpendicular to the beach) as long as there are targets. If I have found deep targets I go back over the area parallel to the beach in the pin point metal mode (no discrimination) for maximum depth. If there still are targets I will switch to a tight diagonal search pattern and return with the opposite diagonal pattern.

    If I find an old coin/heavy object between the high and low tide areas while using a loose W search pattern, I will slowly spiral out so that the angle of the search coil is always changing to find the target line.

    I do carry coins and alloys with me so that I know what they sound like when targets are shallow on dry or wet sand
    by dropping them close to the target for comparison. Of course the sound will differ with depth and difference in the ground matrix.


    I have only used the Sovereign once, which has a wider tonal range, as it constantly rains where I detect.

    As a rule of thumb, I dig if it beeps.
    when targets are few or deep I dig if it chirps, changes tone, or does anything other than null when sweeping the coil from different directions.
    This concludes my input to the master course, you suggested
    Last edited by Sir Gala Clad; Aug 03, 2013 at 01:03 AM. Reason: Clarify

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    Good for you...
    God made man.. Sam Colt made them equal

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    An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

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    Good job !!
    I look forward to seeing pics of the coin.
    Don....

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    and why exactly was this teacher playing around with an ancient Grecian coin in the water? Sounds to me like he was trying to lose it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by borntohunt460 View Post
    and why exactly was this teacher playing around with an ancient Grecian coin in the water? Sounds to me like he was trying to lose it lol
    The life guard, who was one of his students, said that the teacher wore it everywhere and never was without it.

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    Good job Sir Gala Clad!

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    Finders keepers, losers weepers, unless there is a reward!
    Flip-flops are fine, but barefoot is best!

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    Great Job on the return !

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    You did the right thing. Had you kept it you would always be thinking of the person who lost it, and feeling guilty.
    I'm a greater believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it”

    Thomas Jefferson

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    good job, and want to see the picts too!

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    Some people return and some don't. I believe you did the right thing by returning an heirloom back to it's owner. I congratulate you on your honesty!

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    you are the man.congratulations

 

 

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