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  1. #16

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    Rebel Thanks for the info. Most of the info I have on Jean is from Jack Ramsey's book. Jack was the minister of My wife's family's church and a very good friend of my father-in Law. He gave a signed copy of his book to the family and we some how ended up with it when every thing was said and done after their passing. It has been 8 or 10 years since I have read it and I forget as much as I ever knew. Will have to some day soon reread it.

    Harold Van Buren Voorhis in one of his books had a short historic article of the masonic connection between Jackson and Lafitte. This is in one of the books he did while a editor of one of the Masonic publications working in his later years in Iowa. Think it was a compilation of short essays that he wrote for different publications and newsletters. Believe it was published by the Grand Lodge of Iowa or Missiour. Not sure

    The Lafitte Bros. were no doubt part of the Red Lodge system as it was dominate at the time in New Orleans. This system still is in place today and believe that Louisiana is the only place in America that the Blue lodge and Red lodge work hand in hand under the same Grand Lodge.

    S.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senior deacon View Post
    Rebel Thanks for the info. Most of the info I have on Jean is from Jack Ramsey's book. Jack was the minister of My wife's family's church and a very good friend of my father-in Law. He gave a signed copy of his book to the family and we some how ended up with it when every thing was said and done after their passing. It has been 8 or 10 years since I have read it and I forget as much as I ever knew. Will have to some day soon reread it.

    Harold Van Buren Voorhis in one of his books had a short historic article of the masonic connection between Jackson and Lafitte. This is in one of the books he did while a editor of one of the Masonic publications working in his later years in Iowa. Think it was a compilation of short essays that he wrote for different publications and newsletters. Believe it was published by the Grand Lodge of Iowa or Missiour. Not sure

    The Lafitte Bros. were no doubt part of the Red Lodge system as it was dominate at the time in New Orleans. This system still is in place today and believe that Louisiana is the only place in America that the Blue lodge and Red lodge work hand in hand under the same Grand Lodge.

    S.D.
    Yep, what you sez about the RED Lodge is correct. I was AMD (Allied Masonic Degree via RAM) member, a another Bro was FBI Agent/Trainer, who was sent to New Orleans for training; gave a WONDERFUL presentation on RED Lodge "system" in New Orleans. Degrees 1-3 are Scottish Rite first 3 Degrees... in FRENCH! "Pics" of the Lodge Hall was GREAT! Jean, Pierre, & Youx were FRENCHMEN, and Pierre & Youx were PROBABLY "Entered, Passed, & Raised" to the Sublime Degree in RED Lodge... understanding EVERY word of the 3 degrees; Rituals, Lectures, Gestures, and all!
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  3. #18

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    It is my understanding that in the Red Lodge the ceremony starts very early in the morning and last until late in the evening. Once in a blue moon one of the Red Lodge's will come up in to the Shreveport Area and put on a degree. I missed the last one but will not miss the next. Yes that is a interesting thing about living this close to Louisiana. One minute some one will be talking plain English the next minute they will break in to Cajun French. I have a neighbor who is Cajun and will do it when he gets excited. Just like Swamp People in my own back yard.

    S.D.

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    The business of the lodge is often quite mundane: voting to pay a utility bill, for example, although in some lodges that tedium is relieved by an expedited process wherein the Wardens - essentially the First and Second Vice President - pre-approve things and a single vote is cast relying on their good judgment rather than addressing each item in turn.
    Other business might include anything which any local club or group would encounter. There are votes to admit new members, there are suggestions from the officers and/or the members about activities to hold and things to do and there are reports on events that have occurred. In addition, there is a Treasurer's Report and the reading of the minutes of the preceding meeting by the Secretary along with any correspondence which he might have. The Secretary and Master will report on any word they've received regarding the sickness or distress of a member or his family. Other officers and members might add information as well.
    Presentation of an award for long-term service. Sometimes there may be a lengthy discussion on a matter of importance, like the lodge roof is leaking, or a person in need ect. or on a Committee's report on their deliberations pertaining to it. A question like repairing or replacing the roof, for example, would normally be referred to a committee that would consider all the options and make a recommendation. Sometimes too, there may be an award presentation for long-term service to the Fraternity, for example.
    But this is, for all intents and purposes, what goes on at a Masonic meeting. No worshiping Satan, no dancing around naked in the moonlight, and nothing that anyone would find offensive in any way.
    In 1861-1865 the meetings would have been conducted just the same with the order and agenda of that point in time discussed and delt with accordingly. This formality would lead to great success year after year for the organization which was formed in ....Some say the great creater held a compass in one hand and a square in the other. It seems very logical that the most secretive organization of it's time, the K.G.C./O.A.K, would be a byproduct of the Freemasons who had charge of the top end of the United states Government. It's not who they know that keeps a secret organization like the K.G.C. in charge, It's who they snow.

    L.C.
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    Which brings me to the subject of Lucifer as Albert Pike depicted him not the misconception often accepted as fact by the uninitiated mass....


    "Lucifer, the ancient name of the Morning Star, now called Venus, whose mission is to bring light to the dwellers in darkness."

    If a person can get "devil worshiping sorcerer" out of that description, there is no hope of educating them any further on the subject.

    Just my two cents, L.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C. BAKER View Post
    Which brings me to the subject of Lucifer as Albert Pike depicted him not the misconception often accepted as fact by the uninitiated mass....


    "Lucifer, the ancient name of the Morning Star, now called Venus, whose mission is to bring light to the dwellers in darkness."

    If a person can get "devil worshiping sorcerer" out of that description, there is no hope of educating them any further on the subject.

    Just my two cents, L.C.
    Well stated, Bro! B/C "Venus" is also cited... AP was accused of being a RAKE & LOVE GOD; ALL the VICTORIAN women become GREATLY excited... HA HA HA! (Singing... " I'm your VENUS... I'm the FIRE of your desire!"). LOL!
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  7. #22

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    To bring light to darkness to lift the vail of darkness to enlighten mankind. Yup if Pike was devil worshiper he sure did it in a funny way. People want to read into his works only what they want that fits there belief system. That where he get a bad rap from. They don't want to study the deeper meaning and symbolism of his work and that is what one has to do when studying his works. As L.C. has said you have to read him with his works in one hand and a dictionary in the other. I do it with a few more books and the computer on also.

    Good one Rebel Had to go You Tube the song hadn't listen to it in years.

    S.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C. BAKER View Post
    I have know doubt in the matter of the K.G.C. hatching from high ranking Freemasons because I have personally identified them and shown evidence of K.G.C. / O.A.K. and Freemasons symbolism on the same monuments erected by these individuals who also happened to have been high ranking Democrats in the federal Government including Presidents of the United States Pierce and Buchanan. There were more Presidents before them, but I don't have the hard evidence against them to say their names.
    Some of them with out a doubt were 33rd degree Masons. Two of them were Cryptic Masons, and several were 32nd degree Masons. All of them were either K.G.C. or became O.A.K. members after 1863 when the K.G.C. changed it's name to the O.A.K...


    Look at this monument and tell me what you think.

    Attachment 1019795


    L.C.
    Monument...? Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite

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    Quote Originally Posted by senior deacon View Post
    To bring light to darkness to lift the vail of darkness to enlighten mankind. Yup if Pike was devil worshiper he sure did it in a funny way. People want to read into his works only what they want that fits there belief system. That where he get a bad rap from. They don't want to study the deeper meaning and symbolism of his work and that is what one has to do when studying his works. As L.C. has said you have to read him with his works in one hand and a dictionary in the other. I do it with a few more books and the computer on also.

    Good one Rebel Had to go You Tube the song hadn't listen to it in years.

    S.D.
    GREAT song!

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    That is how the secrets are kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C. BAKER View Post
    That is how the secrets are kept.
    YEP!

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    To understand literally the symbols and allegories of Oriental books as to ante-historical matters, is willfully to close our eyes against the Light. To translate the symbols into the trivial and commonplace, is the blundering of mediocrity.....

    L.C.

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    So back to the original post #1, one thing I found in looking at the Whispering Bench, I found a pic of the dedication plaques about the bench, and Monument Square land was donated by the Conley family. Any relevance here?

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    Cheri

  14. #29
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    The funny thing about that is that Melville E. Conley can not be tied to any of the organizations in question, and he has yet to be tied to any money or money making scheme. Still looking at him.

    L.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C. BAKER View Post
    As you all know, last night was the summer solstice. I had posted several symbols on this site that we have been working on to get some new ideas from you treasure hunting scholars out there. This symbol was deciphered by pinwheel as possibly directing us to look through a "needle's eye." He was 100% correct. Attachment 1012958
    We located what we suspected to be the "needles eye" on this trail, but there were also two other symbols involved. These two K.G.C. symbols were deciphered by my father and I to instruct us to look through the needles eye at midnight during the summer solstice.
    We obtained special permission from those officials that were necessary to do so. At midnight the constellation of Libra appeared in the "needles eye" though it was partially blocked by tree limbs.

    Attachment 1012950



    Believe me when I tell you.....I think I peed a little from excitement. We, with the help of pinwheel have managed to decipher the symbols left by the Knights of the Golden Circle and find what we were directed to. Below is a picture of it. After so many trial and errors, it feels pretty good to get it right.

    Attachment 1012954

    Thanks for all the help! L.C. Baker


    P.S. For those that may be interested in learning who these Knights are... The Ones That Got Away: Knights of the Golden Circle Exposed (Knights of the Golden Circle Unearthed) (Volume 1): L. C. Baker: 9781499593693: Amazon.com: Books
    While doing more research I ran across this info which I thought to be very relevant to the needles eye that revealed the constellation of Libra.

    Albert Pike mentions several forms of the name CHiram: Khirm, Khurm, and Khur-Om, the latter ending in the sacred Hindu monosyllable OM, which may also be extracted from the names of Solomon's three murderers. Pike further relates the three ruffians to a triad of stars in the constellation of Libra and also calls attention to the fact that the Chaldean god Bal--metamorphosed into a demon by the Jews--appears in the name of each of the murderers, Jubela, Jubelo, and Jubelum. To interpret the Hiramic legend requires familiarity with both the Pythagorean and Qabbalistic systems of numbers and letters, and also the philosophic and astronomic cycles of the Egyptians, Chaldeans, and Brahmins. For example, consider the number 33. The first temple of Solomon stood for thirty-three years in its pristine splendor. At the end of that time it was pillaged by the Egyptian King Shishak, and finally (588 B.C.) it was completely destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar and the people of Jerusalem were led into captivity to Babylon. (See General History of Freemasonry, by Robert Macoy.) Also King David ruled for thirty-three years in Jerusalem; the Masonic Order is divided into thirty-three symbolic degrees; there are thirty-three segments in the human spinal column; and Jesus was crucified in the thirty-third year of His life.

    L.C.

 

 
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