Knights of the Golden Circle, Order of American Knights, Freemasons and Kabbalah

[Rebel - KGC]

Such as...?

Tell me YOUR "take" on such...

 

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[White Heart]

Thanks for your reply Rebel, thank you very much.
I have followed your research advice for years.
I have uncovered a treasure alright, but it is not one that can be stolen or confiscated. I am inclined to believe that the treasure which has been made available to me is the most valuable one there is. Knowledge and Deep Understanding.


I like the term you use, Spiritual Alchemy.

Best wishes to all for the New Year.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Tell me YOUR "take" on such...

Infinity. The beginning and the end of all living things. The creation of life from death. A never Ending cycle that makes all living things the same.

L.C.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Some of what A. Pike thought about the nature of it https://freimaurer-wiki.de/index.php/En:Albert_Pike,_Morals_and_Dogma_18

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Thanks for your reply Rebel, thank you very much.
I have followed your research advice for years.
I have uncovered a treasure alright, but it is not one that can be stolen or confiscated. I am inclined to believe that the treasure which has been made available to me is the most valuable one there is. Knowledge and Deep Understanding.


I like the term you use, Spiritual Alchemy.

Best wishes to all for the New Year.

From such comes WISDOM.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Infinity. The beginning and the end of all living things. The creation of life from death. A never Ending cycle that makes all living things the same.

L.C.

AND! From DEATH to LIFE! YOU would love my After Life Experience.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Being in the Celestial Lodge above was AWESOME!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

On Treasure Net... in Psychics/Mediums/Paranormal Forum; FOR FREEMASONS ONLY - Afterlife, Grand Celestial Lodge, ABOVE. HH! Good Luck! Have FUN!

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Being in the Celestial Lodge above was AWESOME!

Biggest trip of your life! That is why I am saving it for last!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Yeah... I "came back" with Greater "Understanding" & Wisdom...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Anyway, enough of that; MIGHT get into RELIGION... YECH!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Kabbalah is an esoteric philosophy within Judaism and Jewish association with alchemy dates from ancient times. Alchemy, in the second or third century, assumed a mystical and magical character, exemplified in such things as the whole syncretism of the East—Jewish and Egyptian gnosis, Greek mysteries, and Ophite speculations—combined to produce a current of thought which affected every mental production of the age. How many Jews do you think were in the K.G.C.?

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Let's get MORE into this...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

There were several High-ranking REBEL (CSA) Officers who were Jewish; MAYBE, they were KGC, too... dunno.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

ANYWAY, if the KGC could use the Kabbalah (SYMBOLS), almost certain they would have.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

L.C., do YOU think that the KGC used the Kabbalah as a "Coding Device"...? If so; how...?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Hebrew Letters COULD have been used in "coding", I reckon.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

There were several High-ranking REBEL (CSA) Officers who were Jewish; MAYBE, they were KGC, too... dunno.

I only know of one Jewish Knight, but I have no doubt that the Kabbalah be it used as a guide or used otherwise, was definitely on the round table when the Knights were formed. I believe that it was a "Christian" oriented group of members that were adopting and teaching what they had been taught by their elders through rituals and rights of passage over the years. Most of those rituals and rights were adopted from the Freemasons and perhaps other societies like the ones we have discussed. It seems to me like "A" common denominator is Albert Pike, but not "THE" common denominator. A lot of those members would not have had the formal education to recognize Hermeticism or Kabbalistic rituals as anything but part of their learned and experienced rituals of Knighthood and nothing more. The Sage or Sages that wrote the rituals and rights were definitely way above average learned, men. After the Civil War casualties mounted up and the horrors of battle began to take a toll on the Inner Circle, I would say somewhere in the later part of 1863, the men that were left at the helm of the "divided" K.G.C. were almost ALL War Democrats leading into the Civil War who had movement interests that were damaged during the war. The only thing that they had in common with their Southern Brothers was that they both blamed the Abolitionist for the outcome. The purse strings were always in the hands of the Inner Circle, and those men moved on to seek retribution another way. It was their highly educated guide that wrote the rituals of the society and maybe that same man wrote the ritual and symbolism used by them to make a cache. That frequency of that would depend on if that cache was a depository or a repository. In the South, they were almost all depositories to be recouped ASAP due to the government take over and Marshall Law being imposed. Can't imagine they felt safe there for many years after the war, so the safest place for Southern money was in Northern hands for quite some time at the beginning of the Reconstruction. Alchemy, Hermetism, etc. all were part of the education of the K.G.C. Sages, but it was not taught to them in a practical way if you get my drift. Just my two cents!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Well, AP was PROBABLY the "Ritualist" for BOTH FM/SR.SJ & KGC; HIGHLY educated, spent time in New Orleans, LA on several committees with various ppl with "secret interest"; I think that the SR/SJ had MORE KGC-oriented "re-building the South" tendencies. Later to be expanded to OAK.

 

[L.C. BAKER]

Well, AP was PROBABLY the "Ritualist" for BOTH FM/SR.SJ & KGC; HIGHLY educated, spent time in New Orleans, LA on several committees with various ppl with "secret interest"; I think that the SR/SJ had MORE KGC-oriented "re-building the South" tendencies. Later to be expanded to OAK.

That is what I was driving at. I believe that 100%

 

[L.C. BAKER]

In the South, there was a group known as the red strings and another known as the Union League. They were as disruptive to the Confederacy as the copperheads were to the Union. They were the ones fighting against the grain and putting efforts forth to stop the K.K.K. after the War. Another group known as the Loyalists League paved the way for the K.K.K. and battled the other two groups. Pike would have been very aware of them almost daily, and they also had a publication. There were more internal problems in the South post War than in the North. Several factions of opinionated armed people that included the Buffalos. Things were very out of control for a while.