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  1. #441
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    The Watcher

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    ~woof~
    Thanks for the link, Art. The thing is fraudulent. If you plow through the OKM threads, you'll discover that this is a product the OKM engineers would much prefer not to talk about to anyone who knows their stuff, because like I been tellin' ya, the manufacturers and "skeptics" know the same thing about the apparatus (that it's fraudulent), and the disagreement is not over that issue but on how to describe the thing to the public since the manufacturers are trying to target gullibillies to sell it to.
    Yes we know that the Skeptics Claim that all LRL’s and MFD’s are fraudulent...We know that all the Manufacturers do not agree with you...The 70 plus owner/ operators that have posted testimonials, photo’s of finds and movies of finds also disagree with you...The OKM owner/operator has posted that his device is not fraudulent so who is wrong...the Treasure hunter who uses the device or the skeptic who’s knowledge comes from skeptic forums and from reading the advertisements?

    And don't worry, you don't want one, it's apparently not even a swingy thingy, but in some sense a copy of a Mineoro.
    You are correct..I own 4 LRL’s and MFD’s that will locate everything that I want them too. They all operate in the manner that they were designed. I have a wide choice of elements , distance and depths to suit my every need. If I want another device I would just become an informed consumer again.

    This Curtis guy, that name sounds familiar, where've we run into him before? That line about the inventor sounds like H3Tec boilerplate (!).
    His testimonial is on the forum..

    Have a good day, Art.
    I will have a good day...going on a picnic at the site of a gold vein. Going to see if the ground has thawed enough to do a little digging...Att

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  3. #442
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    Dec 2008
    Canberra
    LST, BDHI,Infinium,Sov XS,6000DI Pro SL,Scorpion, V-SAT,Spectrum XLT,Gold Spear,Scorpion,Sand Shark, Compadre,Sierra Madre & quite a a few others.
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    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Everybody and anybody can find technical information in regards to the operation and designs and circuits of all types of commonly used metal detectors such as those built by White;s, Tesoro, Minelab, Garrett Bounty hunter etc. etc.
    These details are not secret in any way shape or form.

    Now if someone out there can direct me to a link that explains and demonstrates the operation, designs, Circuits and operation principles of LRLs sutch as Rangertell and other similar instruments I would be very gratefull.

    It is amazing that we are still spending bazillions of dollars sending satelites into orbit that can detect mineral deposits using X-rays, Thermal Imaging, and Radar when right at our fingertips (if the LRLs do as suggested) we have amazingly simple LRLs that can find whatever we want them to find , just by pointing them and thinking about what we want to locate...... I would just luv ta see a cct diagram of wun ov vose gadgets Hey!!

  4. #443
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    The Watcher

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    Adrian SS
    It is amazing that we are still spending bazillions of dollars sending satelites into orbit that can detect mineral deposits using X-rays, Thermal Imaging, and Radar when right at our fingertips (if the LRLs do as suggested)
    we have amazingly simple LRLs that can find whatever we want them to find , just by pointing them and thinking about what we want to locate
    That is just a skeptic claim...If you try to Dowse with a LRL you are not going to locate any treasure...Art

  5. #444
    au
    Dec 2008
    Canberra
    LST, BDHI,Infinium,Sov XS,6000DI Pro SL,Scorpion, V-SAT,Spectrum XLT,Gold Spear,Scorpion,Sand Shark, Compadre,Sierra Madre & quite a a few others.
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    Mate! Ya could stick a gold nugget inside one of those LRLs without the operators knowledge and it/he couldn't even detect that.

  6. #445
    LRL fraud debunked

    Dec 2010
    ciudadano del universo, residente de El Paso TX
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    Underground detection
    Actually, Adrian, there is another forum where electrical schematics and photos of guts of LRL's past present and future are published. There's a funny thing about those schematics-- not even the fans thereof seem to have a clue what they are supposed to do or how to tell if one is "working" or not!

    Things that actually work and aren't fraudulent, aren't called "LRL's". They're classified according to their operating principle, something that LRL's don't have.

    --Toto

  7. #446
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
    Dowsing Rods and a Ranger Tell Examiner
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    ~woof~
    Actually, Adrian, there is another forum where electrical schematics and photos of guts of LRL's past present and future are published. There's a funny thing about those schematics-- not even the fans thereof seem to have a clue what they are supposed to do or how to tell if one is "working" or not!
    That is true...It shows just how confused the fans (Skeptics) are...Art

  8. #447
    au
    Dec 2008
    Canberra
    LST, BDHI,Infinium,Sov XS,6000DI Pro SL,Scorpion, V-SAT,Spectrum XLT,Gold Spear,Scorpion,Sand Shark, Compadre,Sierra Madre & quite a a few others.
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    OK so I had a look in on a couple of LRL Forums.
    What can I say? I am speachless although I now have a clue as to how the LRL fanatics can be so easily duped into believing almost anything and being so easily separated from their money.
    Fair dinkum! the mind boggles.

  9. #448
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
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    ~Adrian SS~
    OK so I had a look in on a couple of LRL Forums .
    What can I say ? I am speachless although I now have a clue as to how the LRL fanatics can be so easily duped into believing almost anything and being so easily separated from their money.
    Fair dinkum! the mind boggles.
    Thank You for your interest in LRL’s...Yes the ads are not very good...I prefer to look at the testimonials and Photo’s of finds made by Treasure Hunters. If the web site has any movies I like to see the device in operation. ..Art

  10. #449
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    Jul 2010
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    Quote Originally Posted by aarthrj3811 View Post
    ~Adrian SS~
    Thank You for your interest in LRL’s...Yes the ads are not very good...I prefer to look at the testimonials and Photo’s of finds made by Treasure Hunters. If the web site has any movies I like to see the device in operation. ..Art
    All which can easily be faked on a website.

  11. #450
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    The Watcher

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    All which can easily be faked on a website.
    Are you saying that all Testimonials, photo’s of finds and movies on T-net could be fake?...Art

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarthrj3811 View Post
    ~werleibr~
    Are you saying that all Testimonials, photo’s of finds and movies on T-net could be fake?...Art
    Did I mention anything about T-net? No. Talking about all the testimonials on the propaganda websites can easily be faked. It is like a late night infomertial, think all those testimonials are real? Ever hear of a paid spokesman?

    And could some of the testimonails on T-net be fake, I could not tell you that, if they were that would be a violation of the TOS. I think T-net does a good job of looking out for robots and spamers.

  13. #452
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
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    ~werleibr~
    Did I mention anything about T-net? No. Talking about all the testimonials on the propaganda websites can easily be faked. It is like a late night infomertial, think all those testimonials are real? Ever hear of a paid spokesman?
    Propaganda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the desired result in audience attitudes.
    Advertising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Advertising is a form of communication used to encourage or persuade an audience (viewers, readers or listeners) to continue or take some new action. Most commonly, the desired result is to drive consumer behavior with respect to a commercial offering, although political and ideological advertising is also common. The purpose of advertising may also be to reassure employees or shareholders that a company is viable or successful. Advertising messages are usually paid for by sponsors and viewed via various traditional media; including mass media such as newspaper, magazines, television commercial, radio advertisement, outdoor advertising or direct mail; or new media such as blogs and websites and text messages.
    Looks like a legal means to sell products...Art

  14. #453
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    No one said it was not legal way to sell products. Propaganda is legal, Advertising is propaganda. You should read more of the wiki article than just the opening paragraph.
    Propaganda is generally an appeal to emotion, not intellect.[citation needed] It shares techniques with advertising and public relations, each of which can be thought of as propaganda that promotes a commercial product or shapes the perception of an organization, person, or brand
    So Art ALL Advertising is propaganda besides your LRL propaganda websites, Whites website is a propaganda website for thier products, Obama or Romney's websites are propaganda sites for their campaigns, Samsung is a propaganda website for their products.

    It is going to third party websites that test products can you get a better understanding of what you are buying.

  15. #454
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
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    ~werleibr~
    It is going to third party websites that test products can you get a better understanding of what you are buying.
    I understand what you are claiming...If I want to buy a new Jeep I should go to a Ford dealership to get the truth...art

  16. #455
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    No what I am saying is if you want to buy a computer, you go to a site or magaizine that test computers and gives you the lowdown on how they opperated without caring about the advertisers. Example Consumer Reports, PC Mag... that kind of stuff... the kind of place that even if you put an add in their magazine and the magazine tests it and finds it to be crap, they will say it is crap and not care what the advertiser has to say about it because they can always fill the spot with someone else.

  17. #456
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
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    ~werleibr~
    No what I am saying is if you want to buy a computer, you go to a site or magaizine that test computers and gives you the lowdown on how they opperated without caring about the advertisers. Example Consumer Reports, PC Mag... that kind of stuff... the kind of place that even if you put an add in their magazine and the magazine tests it and finds it to be crap, they will say it is crap and not care what the advertiser has to say about it because they can always fill the spot with someone else.
    That’s a good excuse...Can you tell us where to go and find test results for LRL’s?
    It seems to me that it would be better to read the websites and try to determine which LRL would meet your needs. If you have any questions that are not answered on the web site you can call them or send an e-mail to them...After you decide which device you are interested in you can visit the Manufacturer. If that is not possible you can find someone who uses one of them and get a hands on demonstration..Use all your options’ before you buy...Art

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    Quote Originally Posted by aarthrj3811 View Post
    That’s a good excuse...Can you tell us where to go and find test results for LRL’s?
    It seems to me that it would be better to read the websites and try to determine which LRL would meet your needs. If you have any questions that are not answered on the web site you can call them or send an e-mail to them...After you decide which device you are interested in you can visit the Manufacturer. If that is not possible you can find someone who uses one of them and get a hands on demonstration..Use all your options’ before you buy...Art
    ha ha Art, you sound more like a salesman now for an LRL. Claiming that wanting 3rd party review and descriptions of a tool is not what needs to be done, just trust the manufacture. Let's see, how many other Electrical or invented products out their do you know of that say don't look for 3rd party tests, and don't allow 3rd party test, hmmmm only thing I can think of is LRLs, maybe someone else can help me on that one. Now what electrical or invented products do have and allow 3rd party testing and reporting. Well lets start off with a big one for this site, METAL DETECTORS, then there is computers, automobiles, lights, tools, guns, and kitchen items just to name a few.

  19. #458
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
    Northern Nevada
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    ~werleibr~
    ha ha Art, you sound more like a salesman now for an LRL.
    No..Just an owner/operator of LRL’s made for Treasure Hunting.
    Claiming that wanting 3rd party review and descriptions of a tool is not what needs to be done, just trust the manufacture.
    I don’t know if any of the manufacturers who have had third party testing done ..do you?
    Let's see, how many other Electrical or invented products out their do you know of that say don't look for 3rd party tests, and don't allow 3rd party test, hmmmm only thing I can think of is LRLs, maybe someone else can help me on that one.
    I would think that there are millions of products on the market that have been tested by the owners as a third party tester.
    Now what electrical or invented products do have and allow 3rd party testing and reporting.
    We don’t know that
    Well lets start off with a big one for this site, METAL DETECTORS, then there is computers, automobiles, lights, tools, guns, and kitchen items just to name a few.
    Yes I have saw many reports made by the owners of metal detectors...Mostly good reports but some are bad reports..Art

  20. #459
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    The Watcher

    Apr 2004
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    Thank You for stopping by..I try to give one sentence answers so as not to give them anything to duck or spin...Art

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