When Ordinary Science Fails to Explain

[hung]

I see skeptics remain citing 'science' as a possible 'basis' or should I say, using it as a 'lifeline' for them to deny matters they cannot comprehend such as for instance the simple aproach of MFD type LRLs of locating elements at distance through magnetic lines. When they cannot explain, they rely on a part of science that cannot explain either. Non sequitur at its best.

So, who are the ones who trully and clearly make use of 'pseudoscience' here? Skeptics off course!

Bellow is one more evidence that their arguing and discussions with LRL users in this forum is simply ridiculous and pointless. But they will eventually remain. People waste time at their will.

Proceeding with corroborations that current academic science knowledge is only a drop in the ocean of true comprehension of events, still lacking the basis to explain certain elements in the horizon of events, here is just one little case out of many.
A case that covers quantum animism and MAGNETISM that ordinary science just cannot explain. Actually deep science can, but it would require a lot of changes in current scientific principles that would need a revision. Well... you know how annoying this would be right?

His name is Miroslaw Magola. This individual has the power to atract to his body any object being metal or not. The heavier object he could levitate or atract with the palms of his hand to date was a piece of marble rock of almost 20 pounds.
In the videos you will see his ability and images talk for themselves.

This guy went for the 'mythical' million dollar from Randi, but apparently Randi knowing he was for real and could not explain his ability, declined using him in his challenge and has been running away from Miroslaw, avoiding him.

He was once brought to a scientific lab fully equiped to monitor his powers. One thing that was discovered is that when he starts the 'magnetization' process, his skin electric current and temperature rises dramatically.
Magola claims that this phenomena started when he was meditating one day. Then he continued to improve his ability with time. Prior to start the phenomena he says he mentally spots electric flashes of electricity similar to the ones caused by Aurora Borealis.

I provide a few links bellow with images and also videos from his site where more detailed data is found. Look in 'book' and 'videoclips'.
I encourage you people to watch this amazing ability that trully proves the marvelous powers inherent to us human beings.







http://www.magola.com/English/welcome.html


Here Miroslaw is featured in Stan Lee's superhumans episode. Go to minute 16:00 to watch him.

http://rlstv.com/2010/09/03/stan-lee’s-superhumans-human-wolf-season-1-episode-5/

 

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[Rudy(CA)]

Hung,

Just how many hours a week do you spend on the internet searching for new crackpots that you can foist
on us, claiming some other pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo.

 

[hung]

Hung,

Just how many hours a week do you spend on the internet searching for new crackpots that you can foist
on us, claiming some other pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo.

See? You are perfect example to my point.
A pseudo member with pseudo scientific knowledge wearing a pseudo paper bag, to hide a pseudo identity and pseudo brains.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

hi Rudy: have you figured how he may be doing it. I have. Waiting for your post as to how. In the meanwhile, Hung and I will be drinking

Don Jose de La Mancha

OOPS, forgot that my buddy aa likes coffee also

 

[aarthrj3811]

~Non Skeptic Rudy~

Just how many hours a week do you spend on the internet searching for new crackpots that you can foist
on us, claiming some other pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo.

http://www.skepticalinvestigations.org/exam/Dace_amazing3.htm

Only skeptics, educated by James “Amazing” Randi and other magicians, are capable of spotting the tricks of the trade. “Scientists are easily fooled,” explained Randi, “because they think they know.” But only skeptics really know.

Richard Dawkins said he was worried that Randi would eventually have to pay up. Dr. Dawkins had just delivered a truly fine lecture - the high point of the conference, in fact - and Randi had joined the famed author onstage for a public chat. “About the million dollar prize, I would be worried if I were you because of the fact that we have perinormal possibilities.” Dawkins had just introduced this neologism during his talk. An alleged phenomenon is perinormal (from the Greek “peri,” in the vicinity of) if it seems impossible but which, in contrast to the “paranormal,” turns out to be a 100% natural, skeptic-approved phenomenon. Electromagnetic fields, for instance, were once perinormal but eventually came to be recognized as real. The question, then, is which phenomena currently dismissed by skeptics as paranormal are actually perinormal. “I mean, what if somebody-what if there really is a perinormal phenomenon which is then embraced within science and will become normal, but at present is classified conventionally as paranormal?”

Randi agreed he might have to pay up someday. But Dawkins had a trick up his sleeve. If a “psychic” phenomenon turns out to be real, then by definition it is physical and therefore not really psychic after all, and thus Randi still shouldn’t have to pay.

Dawkins’ sleight-of-hand notwithstanding, according to the rules of Randi’s competition, if a psychic ability is proven, he must pay up. Randi stated to me that a preliminary test would have to yield a probability of one in a thousand that the results were due to chance. After passing the preliminary, the investigator could commence with the formal test, which would have to yield a probability against chance of one in a million. As Dr. Radin notes, a meta-analysis of all ganzfeld telepathy experiments up to 1997 revealed a probability of a million billion to one. So if Randi is true to his word, it ought to be possible to perform an experiment that would garner the prize. Of course, it would take a huge number of sessions to demonstrate such a high level of improbability. In the end, the million dollars might do nothing more than pay for the experiment. But it would be worth it for no other reason than to put an end to allegations that the unclaimed prize is itself evidence against psychic phenomena.

Randi just keeps adding names to his long lists..His only claim to fame is his infomercials’ begging for donations…Art

 

[Saturna]

Hung,

Just how many hours a week do you spend on the internet searching for new crackpots that you can foist on us, claiming some other pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo.

No kidding. It's like a cult to these guys.


What cha' believin' today Hung ? I dunno, whatya got ?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

K gentlemen, just what is the secret to his trick? Unfortunately it is a trick, a simple one, which doesn't help genuine psychic data / abilities one bit. Snifff

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[hung]

Art:
No need to post what we all know about Randi and his fake prize.
If only 30% of some guys in the superhuman episodes tried to apply for that (fake) prize and if Randi indeed had the money to pay, he would go bankrupcy instantly.
Maybe one of the reasons on why he decided to finish the prize is due to Miroslaw's case. He could not run and hide from the 'magnetic man' anymore.

hi Rudy: have you figured how he may be doing it.

That's right. Let's hear the wild guesses.
Remember: plastic 'magnetized' as well...

 

[hung]

K gentlemen, just what is the secret to his trick? Unfortunately it is a trick, a simple one, which doesn't help genuine psychic data / abilities one bit. Snifff

Don Jose de La Mancha

Sorry to disagree. But you're wrong.
It's not a trick. Go on the last link I provided and watch the whole case starting at minute 16:00.
Check a steel pan magnetized and inclined in a 45 deg angle.
I personally know some people that can do even more amazing things and they are not tricks. However I will not talk about them because they do not want publicity.
Cases like that only call attention for powers inherent to humans and are not tricks, magic or miracles of any kind. They deal with energies, again inherent to us. Some in a deeper degree, others less.

I will not discuss the scientific aspects of this, as it would take a lot of time and it's out of the scope of this forum.
If I happened to tell the scientific experiments, projects and human 'special powers' I got involved in the past, I would shock many people here.
And it's not my intention at all to put someone's health in prejudice.
Specially the delicate skeptics.

PS. It was so amusing to watch Dr. Lewis stating that something like that it's just impossible and then when Miroslaw enters his lab and performs everything again it's just priceless the look on Dr. Lewis's face.

If Dr. Lewis could only watch Mr.'H', my friend in bilocation events... He would have a heart attack.

 

[EE THr]

I watched the videos.

I thought I was going to see something that I would have to try to figure out.

Puleeeeeez!

Magicians have been doing that for eons!

And so have little kids. Because it looks funny.

 

[hung]

As soon as the process started, Miroslaw's both skin temperature and skin electrical conductivity increased.

Clue#1: These are not cause, but consequence.

 

[EE THr]

As soon as the process started, Miroslaw's both skin temperature and skin electrical conductivity increased.

Clue#1: These are not cause, but consequence.

I would be sweating too, if I made a infantile video like that!


So where is the skin temperature sensor in the video?






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[Rudy(CA)]

Hung,

Just how many hours a week do you spend on the internet searching for new crackpots that you can foist
on us, claiming some other pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo.

See? You are perfect example to my point.
A pseudo member with pseudo scientific knowledge wearing a pseudo paper bag, to hide a pseudo identity and pseudo brains.

All right Hung, then you tell us, please, what application does this "magnetic personality" has to the field of LRL.
Until then, your well researched crackpots are just ... spam for this board.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hi hint, I would be more impressed if he did this with the rim or side of the bowl.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[hung]

According to the posts and doubts above, I see none has clicked the last link I posted. This is the episode five link. There you start to watch at the 16:00 time frame. Without it some claims made by a few people above are pointless...
Also, the you tube videos are child's play compared to the images appearing in the last link. Watch it.

And still none is able to link what it has to do with long range detection of elements employing swivel aproach... Not even the words 'conection' or 'coupling' make sense?

Our host, David Brown stated that after watching Miroslaw's abilities, he's convinced that it represents 'mind over matter'. No.
The mind, or brain is just an interface to an external quantum stimulus input. It's not 'mind over 'matter', but actually 'matter over matter'. Only the first one in another state.

Plasma is claimed to be the fourth state of matter. But still, it's not that the factor involved. It's another state beyond that.
Any wild guesses?
Picks?

Don't be afraid to try. It will not change in anyway whatsoever what is really involved. Wheter you may accept or not.

clue#2: Define magnetism. But only after watching plastic being magnetized. Or you may comit a mistake.

 

[EE THr]

hung---

I have to admit that I didn't click on the last link in your post.

It's the same stuff, with the addition of the monitors.

But where is the base standard?

Some biological variations don't mean much by themselves, yogis do that all the time, anyone can. And stuff sticking to the guy sure doesn't mean anything. I know people who can stick a spoon to their noses, and some who can stick a playing card (non-metalic, too!) to their foreheads.

The way the guy balances them on his forehead amounts to the spoon thing. And picking up the bowls just doesn't take that much trickery to accomplish. Just ask RDT.

P.S. The guy who held his breath underwater said that he took-in water through his nose to compensate the pressure. But how did he do that with that huge nose plug on there? Or was it just a nose plug? And why did he need a nose plug in only three inches of water, later in the pool? Hmmmmmmm. Oxygen is only a small percentage of regular air, so a little pure oxy would go a long way, huh? Especially when you're not moving at all, so burning very little of it.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

HI EE, sure, it's just differential air pressure.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

K swr, just how does he do it?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[hung]

Here's a text in Miroslaw's book I think it's too important to pass unoticed.
My coments are in blue.

"As you have no doubt noticed, we live in strange and interesting times. On the one side we have the victorious rationalism, with its complete dependence upon the computer and its related technology, yet on the other side we have the growing popularity of esoteric knowledge, or the search for paranormal phenomenon as its is called by the media. Our "rational thinking" culture is going through an crises of faith and the world around us no longer seems to be the same the one which has been explained to us by the scientists for the last hundred years.

This can be clearly seen by the average person´s growing lack of confidence in the specialists who, supported by their computers, are no longer able to help them cope with the growing complexity and strangeness of life. What is the meaning behind this desire we have to search unknown forces for the help we need, that have until now been very little researched by the scientific community, areas such as Bio-energy,occultism,telepathy and other secrets of our life and existance on this earth?

By the primary task of researching the subjects listed above, the Academia would have to promote a major, complex and courageous act of redefining several wrong scientific concepts, make revisions in the incomplete ones and most important : invoke a true 'mortal kombat' against the 'estabilishment' and the financial interests behind the lethargy of 'unmovable status quo'.
Not to mention the social revolution it would bring, by daring to change secular beliefs.
Not surprisingly John Hutchison stated that only the military scientists take him seriously. He is right. The military scientists are in another league. They know about the mistakes but do not share this with the civil coleagues.
I think I do not need to answer why.


Seen against a background of the usual books and literature which deal with the border sciences and paranornal, this book from Miroslaw Mignola is a strange exception!

He attacks the world of the fundamentalist scientist through a series of adventurous lectures, which explain to the reader the reasons and logic behind his criticism, while at the same time he seeks to distance himself from the esoteric movement, although he would surely be greeted with open arms from the New Age community. Miroslaw Magola is gifted with some of the strangest abilitys on the planet, which are generally regarded as "paranomal" but his book is filled with protests against exactly this kind of nomenclature.

I agree. Paranormal is just a silly and idiotic name for a scientific event the uneducated layman or even scientist created to desperately identify something they cannot comprehend.

He deals with and discusses things "beyond our World" but describes himself as a radical rationalist! He is one of the most unique people on the planet, yet insists on his normality!

Who is Miroslaw Migola and in what way is he exceptional that he could awake such unique abilitys? In the Internet, among other sources, a person can read about his amazing abilitys of magnetismus. This word describes the ability to affect the world of material objects with the power of one´s own Psyche! To simplify it even more we could say that lifeless objects obey his will! He has the ability to move objects against the laws of gravity! But that is only the beginning of his talents, more profoundly, he is capable of coming directly into contact with the energy based structure of reality! This allows him to successfully complete nearly any challenge set before him, even those outside the tight corset of accepted physical laws. He claims that not only he can do this, but every one of us also has this ability! "

Gravity... he,he,he... What ordinary science understands by gravity? How come gravity acted just the opposite as expected in Von Braun's orbital test in 1957?
What a joke! Science simply does not know what electricity or magnetism exactly are. Much less gravity...

Yes. Miroslaw is right. Everyone of us has this ability. It's just a matter of practice and most important... Merit.
There's an old saying... God did not give wings to snakes for a good reason.


PS. I see I am getting some posts in this thread by SWR. Sorry if I do not anwser you pal. I have you on ignore for about 2 months now.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

K swr, you still haven't explained how he does it, don't know? Hint, the secret is in the second video.
I just duplicated it. RANDI ?

However there have been genuine demonstrations of human magnetism, and why not?

Practice with the stick plate for an interesting and valuable experiment.

Don Jose de La Mancha