The "metal detector mfrs are afraid of LRLs" delusion

[woof!]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

I'd rather you bought a Minelab.

Do you sell Minelab?, those $4,000 metal detectors?

Nope. That's why I'd rather you bought a Minelab.

--Toto

 

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[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

I'd rather you bought a Minelab.

Do you sell Minelab?, those $4,000 metal detectors?

Nope. That's why I'd rather you bought a Minelab.

--Toto

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Arch

 

[hung]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Just a reminder of my prediction made last year.

In 10 years (now 9) conventional metal detectors if still in existence will be only used by kids to play at the beach with their parents finding coins the adults throw in the sand for them to find.

MD corporations either will be out of business or headed to another business. Maybe building floor polishers using their plant and equipment left.

Probably there will be the ones who will still make use of floppy disks. That's ok.

 

[woof!]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Well, Hung, your prediction skills ain't much good.

--Toto

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Archie, here's some rhetorical questions for you, which being an LRL enthusiast you should know the answers to.

What's the best forum on the Internet for LRL enthusiasts to talk about building their own stuff and well as discussing various products?

Who hosts that forum?

What's his day job?

Now, how afraid is he that LRL's are gonna ruin his day job? (Hint: obviously, about as afraid as he is of losing $25K to an LRL.)

* * * * * *

Of all the evidence relating to your theory, NONE supports it, none whatsoever, and ALL refutes it. Your theory was not arrived at by reasoning about any evidence or facts, it is your pure fantasy completely divorced from any interest in reality. And delusion is the right word for it, because you have been informed of the evidence and yet you persist in your fantasy.

--Toto

What's the best forum on the Internet for LRL enthusiasts to talk about building their own stuff and well as discussing various products?

For me, this is the best forum but your, the skeptics mess around here.

Who hosts that forum?

Go to the moderator and ask that question.

What's his day job?

What job? Ain't job in America! isn't it? Everybody is surviving. This is our reality!!

Now, how afraid is he that LRL's are gonna ruin his day job? (Hint: obviously, about as afraid as he is of losing $25K to an LRL.)

Again, go to http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,408523.0.html

In serious, I think you need to see a Doctor because a simple person can read your mental condition about "paranoia". Politician, lawyer, businessman, many of them suffer of Paranoia They think somebody is chasing them to shoot them, conspiring against them, etc. and you look likes is placed in the same row. However, people that smoke "Crack" also suffer of paranoia!! Do you know that?

So, what I can do for you?

Arch

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Just a reminder of my prediction made last year.

In 10 years (now 9) conventional metal detectors if still in existence will be only used by kids to play at the beach with their parents finding coins the adults throw in the sand for them to find.

MD corporations either will be out of business or headed to another business. Maybe building floor polishers using their plant and equipment left.

Probably there will be the ones who will still make use of floppy disks. That's ok.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Of all the evidence relating to your theory, NONE supports it, none whatsoever, and ALL refutes it. Your theory was not arrived at by reasoning about any evidence or facts, it is your pure fantasy completely divorced from any interest in reality. And delusion is the right word for it, because you have been informed of the evidence and yet you persist in your fantasy.

Hey arch..The delusional portion of this thread has been explained and has beenproven..There is no reason to talk to this delusional person...Art

 

[Saturna]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

You guys are good with excuses (you have to be).


I wonder what they'll be 9 years from now when MD's are still around.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

~Saturna~

You guys are good with excuses (you have to be).
I wonder what they'll be 9 years from now when MD's are still around.

Will lets see… It has taken them 40 years to progress to this point..9 years is not a lot of time to correct their flaws. Only time will tell..By the way ..Which manufacture do you work for?..Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Yes SWR..We will use any and all tools available to find and recover Treasure…Art

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Of all the evidence relating to your theory, NONE supports it, none whatsoever, and ALL refutes it. Your theory was not arrived at by reasoning about any evidence or facts, it is your pure fantasy completely divorced from any interest in reality. And delusion is the right word for it, because you have been informed of the evidence and yet you persist in your fantasy.

Hey arch..The delusional portion of this thread has been explained and has beenproven..There is no reason to talk to this delusional person...Art

You're right. What happen is about my theory= "When Skeptics run out bullets, they use our bullets to strike back". Woof was using my bullets to shoot me back.

Arch

 

[woof!]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Archie's complaining that I used his own posts to show that he full of malarkey.

Archie, if you don't like the stuff you post, don't post it!

--Toto


[mod] Can you all please stay ON TOPIC and do it WITHOUT the insults. [/mod]

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Archie's complaining that I used his own posts to show that he full of malarkey.

Archie, if you don't like the stuff you post, don't post it!

--Toto


Can you all please stay ON TOPIC and do it WITHOUT the insults.

I have total fun posting my thread here, specially when you respond

Arch

 

[EE THr]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Archie's complaining that I used his own posts to show that he full of malarkey.

Archie, if you don't like the stuff you post, don't post it!

--Toto


Can you all please stay ON TOPIC and do it WITHOUT the insults.

I have total fun posting my thread here, specially when you respond

Arch

Once it was explained why the metal detector manufacturers aren't afraid of LRLs, they resorted to posting shear nonsense.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

~EE~

Once it was explained why the metal detector manufacturers aren't afraid of LRLs, they resorted to posting shear nonsense.

Just maybe the explanation was not excepted..
Is it a fact that every post made by any owner/operator of a LRL is what you call nonsense?..Art

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

~EE~

Once it was explained why the metal detector manufacturers aren't afraid of LRLs, they resorted to posting shear nonsense.

Just maybe the explanation was not excepted..
Is it a fact that every post made by any owner/operator of a LRL is what you call nonsense?..Art

Art

For EE everything that coming from us is"Non-sense" except the BS that they post here.

Arch

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Archie's complaining that I used his own posts to show that he full of malarkey.

Archie, if you don't like the stuff you post, don't post it!

--Toto


Can you all please stay ON TOPIC and do it WITHOUT the insults.

I have total fun posting my thread here, specially when you respond

Arch

Once it was explained why the metal detector manufacturers aren't afraid of LRLs, they resorted to posting shear nonsense.

That is what they said. Do you believe it? Are you so innocent to believe them?

Arch

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

You hear this every now and then on the LRL forums:

The big problem in this country is there are hundred of merchandisers and businessman that they don't want LRL and MFD's machines be sold, because the will have loss in theirs sales of metal detectors, there for, they come to us in form of "Skeptics" like you, Carl, SWR, Randi and others. It's part of the Capitalism system. Look the economy in this country. We're living a 2nd great depression thanks the white collar rich, merchandiser, bankers, politicians and members of "Wall Street."

A big example are some guys in Arizona that sale Minelab detectors. They sell those $4,000. gold detectors. I know them and they cheating you when you make a test with your MFD on the desert, planting a nugget in some place where they take you and later they say, " Look, your LRL didn't detect this nugget that I detect already with my detector".

Arch

Well, your LRL didn't detect the nugget that the metal detector found, by your own admission. They're afraid of LRL's? I don't think so!

Dowsing probably works better than random guessing for some people. In reading the reports of both dowsers and LRL'ers, it's obvious that the LRL'ers are not getting results better than dowsing, and are probably doing worse. So, why is it that guys like Carl and myself do our debunking here and not on the dowsing forum? Real simple. We're electrical engineers, LRL's claim to be electrical apparatus, and the LRLs are fraudulent. LRL's are fraud, because we're electrical engineers we know the fraud, and it's on our radar screen because the fraud pertains to locating buried metals. The fradulent nature of LRL's parses us arf and we're quite blunt about it.

Now, as far as LRL's being competition for metal detectors, LRL'ers who recover buried metal, ever notice what they do it with? A metal detector! For most purposes, an LRL, even if it "worked", would be pretty useless without a metal detector. Not exactly competition!

As for that "white collar rich, merchandiser, bankers, politicians and members of Wall Street" stuff...... Well, merchandisers yes (products are sold by merchants, even metal detectors, they don't just fall out of the sky), but White's, FTP-Fisher, and Tesoro would hardly qualify for those other characterizations, we're small family owned companies. Minelab is owned by CODAN, and I suppose would fit those characterizations to some extent, but I don't suppose that the stockholders even know what an LRL is. To my knowledge nobody from Minelab posts here. Garrett's pretty big, but even Garrett is family owned. And as far as I know, nobody from Garrett posts here.

Those are the facts, and they're common sense. It's also common sense that LRL gullibillies would make up fairy tales about the big bad metal detector companies trying to put good honest LRL manufacturers out of business. There may be good honest dowsing rod manufacturers, but there are no good honest LRL manufacturers.

Chuckie's a special case because unlike other LRL manufacturers who generally ignore the metal detector industry, he personally attacked Carl (White's) and falsely claimed ownership of a First Texas Products registered trademark. Now here's the funny part. Everyone here knew the guy was a slimeball con man from the get-go, yet some forum denizens nonetheless defended him to the bitter end, and I suppose one or two will still defend him. Ask yourself: why would people defend a guy they know is a con man? It's LRL mentality, that's what it is. When you fall victim to the LRL scam, from then out you're in denial. Denial will suck your brains dry and turn you into a gibbering gullibilly-- just read the posts on this forum and they tell the whole story of LRL psychology.

So, metal detector manufacturers afraid of LRL's? Read the stories of the guys who use LRL's--- Artie, Archie, Fenix, etc. That is what metal detector manufacturers are supposed to be afraid of? Get real!

--Toto

We're electrical engineers,

Jesus, like SWR!!

Arch

 

[architecad]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

You hear this every now and then on the LRL forums:

The big problem in this country is there are hundred of merchandisers and businessman that they don't want LRL and MFD's machines be sold, because the will have loss in theirs sales of metal detectors, there for, they come to us in form of "Skeptics" like you, Carl, SWR, Randi and others. It's part of the Capitalism system. Look the economy in this country. We're living a 2nd great depression thanks the white collar rich, merchandiser, bankers, politicians and members of "Wall Street."

A big example are some guys in Arizona that sale Minelab detectors. They sell those $4,000. gold detectors. I know them and they cheating you when you make a test with your MFD on the desert, planting a nugget in some place where they take you and later they say, " Look, your LRL didn't detect this nugget that I detect already with my detector".

Arch

Well, your LRL didn't detect the nugget that the metal detector found, by your own admission. They're afraid of LRL's? I don't think so!

Dowsing probably works better than random guessing for some people. In reading the reports of both dowsers and LRL'ers, it's obvious that the LRL'ers are not getting results better than dowsing, and are probably doing worse. So, why is it that guys like Carl and myself do our debunking here and not on the dowsing forum? Real simple. We're electrical engineers, LRL's claim to be electrical apparatus, and the LRLs are fraudulent. LRL's are fraud, because we're electrical engineers we know the fraud, and it's on our radar screen because the fraud pertains to locating buried metals. The fradulent nature of LRL's parses us arf and we're quite blunt about it.

Now, as far as LRL's being competition for metal detectors, LRL'ers who recover buried metal, ever notice what they do it with? A metal detector! For most purposes, an LRL, even if it "worked", would be pretty useless without a metal detector. Not exactly competition!

As for that "white collar rich, merchandiser, bankers, politicians and members of Wall Street" stuff...... Well, merchandisers yes (products are sold by merchants, even metal detectors, they don't just fall out of the sky), but White's, FTP-Fisher, and Tesoro would hardly qualify for those other characterizations, we're small family owned companies. Minelab is owned by CODAN, and I suppose would fit those characterizations to some extent, but I don't suppose that the stockholders even know what an LRL is. To my knowledge nobody from Minelab posts here. Garrett's pretty big, but even Garrett is family owned. And as far as I know, nobody from Garrett posts here.

Those are the facts, and they're common sense. It's also common sense that LRL gullibillies would make up fairy tales about the big bad metal detector companies trying to put good honest LRL manufacturers out of business. There may be good honest dowsing rod manufacturers, but there are no good honest LRL manufacturers.

Chuckie's a special case because unlike other LRL manufacturers who generally ignore the metal detector industry, he personally attacked Carl (White's) and falsely claimed ownership of a First Texas Products registered trademark. Now here's the funny part. Everyone here knew the guy was a slimeball con man from the get-go, yet some forum denizens nonetheless defended him to the bitter end, and I suppose one or two will still defend him. Ask yourself: why would people defend a guy they know is a con man? It's LRL mentality, that's what it is. When you fall victim to the LRL scam, from then out you're in denial. Denial will suck your brains dry and turn you into a gibbering gullibilly-- just read the posts on this forum and they tell the whole story of LRL psychology.

So, metal detector manufacturers afraid of LRL's? Read the stories of the guys who use LRL's--- Artie, Archie, Fenix, etc. That is what metal detector manufacturers are supposed to be afraid of? Get real!

--Toto

Well, your LRL didn't detect the nugget that the metal detector found, by your own admission.

He did plant the nugget, I said that. Don't twist my statement. Be good

Next Skeptics,.......................

Arch

 

[EE THr]

Re: The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

Archie's complaining that I used his own posts to show that he full of malarkey.

Archie, if you don't like the stuff you post, don't post it!

--Toto


Can you all please stay ON TOPIC and do it WITHOUT the insults.

I have total fun posting my thread here, specially when you respond

Arch

Once it was explained why the metal detector manufacturers aren't afraid of LRLs, they resorted to posting shear nonsense.

That is what they said. Do you believe it? Are you so innocent to believe them?

Arch

Why should metal detector makers be afraid of LRLs, when LRLs don't even work?









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