About LRL & MFD; If you say you're something, just prove it!

[architecad]

If you say you're an engineer, lawyer, Doctor or whatever, Just prove it, no bla-bla-bla

Don't write large essays to justify your argument, just prove it!!!
Don't argue with users that you're right, just prove it!!
Don't brake apart a LRL to say doesn't work, just prove it!!
Don't say you sells metal detector for $5,000.00 and you know more than, just prove it!!

If you,....just go ahead now



At the end, we're happy using LRLs and MFD's

Arch

[EE THr]

If you say you're an engineer, lawyer, Doctor or whatever, Just prove it with fact, no bla-bla-bla

Don't write large essays to justify your argument, just prove it!!!
Don't argue with users that you're right, just prove it!!
Don't brake apart a LRL to say doesn't work, just prove it!!
Don't say you sells metal detector for $5,000.00 and you know more than, just prove it!!


At the end, we're happy using LRLs and MFD's

Arch

A person's occupation does not determine whether or not something works.

It either works, or it doesn't.

A non-functioning circuit cannot work, no matter what kind of education someone else has.

It's about the circuit, not other people.

If someone claims that a circuit works, and insists that others just "believe," it's up to him to provide adequate evidence of his claim, not to ask others to prove their education or occupations.

[aarthrj3811]

~EE~

A person's occupation does not determine whether or not something works.

That’s correct in most cases but not to the skeptics who claim to be electrical engineers on this board it is not correct.

It either works, or it doesn't.

That is correct

A non-functioning circuit cannot work, no matter what kind of education someone else has.

That is correct

It's about the circuit, not other people.

That is correct

If someone claims that a circuit works, and insists that others just "believe," it's up to him to provide adequate evidence of his claim, not to ask others to prove their education or occupations.

Too the 66 owner/operators who have posted on this board it is not a believe but real facts that they have proved to their selves by finding treasure with said devices. The skeptics who freely admit to not using one of these devices or in some cases have never saw one are the ones that believe they do not work..looking at photo’s is where most of you skeptics get your believes from..So that is your claim so where is your adequate evidence of your claim?..Art

[EE THr]

Art---

"Skeptics" do not make claims.

You have made claims. So it is you who need to provide adequate proof.

I don't see 60 people on here making claims that LRLs work. There are only three or four.

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

Proof that LRLs don't work is the fact that all LRLers refuse to provide real proof that they do.

Further proof that LRLs don't work is the claim that people's occupation is what makes them work, which is illogical. When your only proof is illogic, you have no proof. When you say you don't need proof, you have no proof. When you say that we must "believe," that means you have no proof.

If your LRLs really worked, you would be willing to provide adequate proof. And you aren't, so they don't.

It's just common sense.

[architecad]

If I'm hired for a farmer to find a possible cache in a farm of 5 miles x 8 miles or 40 sq. miles, full of bushes, trees and crap. I have two tools to work;

A $5,000. Metal detector
and
A MDF that broadcast a signal of .25 mile radio or r=.25 mile.

How long I will take to find the cache using the MFD?

How long I would take using the $5,000 metal detector?


With those facts, many Metal detectors dealer "shake" when here it's talked about gold made by MFD because common people understand there are more convenience to use a tool that can trace more terrain in less time. Common sense!!

Arch

[architecad]

This is out of question

EE said

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

To criticize the LRL and MFD it's better to be educated in the field of electronics and electrical engineer and prove it, otherwise, how can we validate that you're ready to formulate a thesis, essay or some research about any electrical components or electronic device? Just to open a LRL and see inside? Is it a true engineering thesis? Common sense !! 8)

Arch

[aarthrj3811]

~EE~

"Skeptics" do not make claims.

They do ever time they post

You have made claims. So it is you who need to provide adequate proof.

No I have not..I just state the facts..the skeptics are the ones making claims that they refuse to prove.

I don't see 60 people on here making claims that LRLs work. There are only three or four.

Yes, only a few of us have been on this board for @the entire 20 months. If you want to research the board you will find that I am correct. 66

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

No I am not. It seems to be inportant to SWR and you

Proof that LRLs don't work is the fact that all LRLers refuse to provide real proof that they do.

Could it be that the only proof that is acceptable to the skeptics are two fake test..one is Randi’s that in 25 years not one of the thousands of applicants have been allowed to take or Carl’s fake double blind test that will only prove that one person can or can not use his device.

Further proof that LRLs don't work is the claim that people's occupation is what makes them work, which is illogical. When your only proof is illogic, you have no proof. When you say you don't need proof, you have no proof. When you say that we must "believe," that means you have no proof.

So..in your opinion the only reason you believe that they do not work is pure logic?

If your LRLs really worked, you would be willing to provide adequate proof. And you aren't, so they don't.

We see no reason to prove anything to the non treasure hunters..

It's just common sense.

Yes it is..I have used 7 different treasure hunting devices (I had to add that so you can understand that I am not talking about explosive or human finding devices) and located and recovered gold with each one. 66 other people have posted of how their devices have also found treasure. So common sense tells me that your claim that all LRL’s are fraudulent and do not work is a bunch of B/S..Art

[aarthrj3811]

~architecad~
If I'm hired for a farmer to find a possible cache in a farm of 5 miles x 8 miles or 40 sq. miles, full of bushes, trees and crap. I have two tools to work;
A $5,000. Metal detector
and
A MDF that broadcast a signal of .25 mile radio or r=.25 mile.
How long I will take to find the cache using the MFD?
How long I would take using the $5,000 metal detector?

With those facts, many Metal detectors dealer "shake" when here it's talked about gold made by MFD because common people understand there are more convenience to use a tool that can trace more terrain in less time. Common sense!!
To criticize the LRL and MFD it's better to be educated in the field of electronics and electrical engineer and prove it, otherwise, how can we validate that you're ready to formulate a thesis, essay or some research about any electrical components or electronic device? Just to open a LRL and see inside? Is it a true engineering thesis? Common sense !!

Yes..Time of search is very important..Less time spent on each target and the recovery turns into more recoveries which means more money in the bank…Art

[fenixdigger]

Now do you have "PROOF" these so called banks exist? Are you telling me that you can put "money " in these banks? Please furnish a list of ALL these so called banks. Validate your statement by taking the "drive in banking" test. How am I doing guys? Sound like anyone?

[aarthrj3811]

Darn LT..Don’t you know the answers to your questions...After you find Treasure with your LRL and have the gold buyer pay you money for it you either spend the money or put it in the bank..the gold buyer, the bank and the merchants are just part of your dilution and imaginary find that you made with your LRL...Art

[fenixdigger]

You gotta admit that was a good impersonation. Oh, I forgot the reply. So what you are saying is that Wal-mart no longer carries those socks. Is that what you are saying? Got to include the ole subject switch.

I can do the other one too.---wait for it--- Current science proves that the glockenhimmer in no way can postulate through any slygon of any size, no matter how you flibben the ends. Heretofore, the slightest garging will lead to derft tiffle widdle. Don't be a smurf do the gurft.

This post not intended to insult any reader, only make fun of.

[Saturna]

I can do the other one too.---wait for it--- Current science proves that the glockenhimmer in no way can postulate through any slygon of any size, no matter how you flibben the ends. Heretofore, the slightest garging will lead to derft tiffle widdle. Don't be a smurf do the gurft.

Spoken like a LRL/dowser. Hung will be proud.

[EE THr]

This is out of question

EE said

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

To criticize the LRL and MFD it's better to be educated in the field of electronics and electrical engineer and prove it, otherwise, how can we validate that you're ready to formulate a thesis, essay or some research about any electrical components or electronic device? Just to open a LRL and see inside? Is it a true engineering thesis? Common sense !! 8)

Arch

If you want some credentialed people to test your LRLs, then have your local college science department test them.

Or, just name any college that you feel would be "educated" enough, and the LRL can be sent there for official testing.

Which one of the above would you like to have happen?

[aarthrj3811]

At last there will be some new shows on TV tonight..That will take care of some re-run problems..art

[EE THr]

At last there will be some new shows on TV tonight..That will take care of some re-run problems..art

Yes, the fact that you refuse to choose a college to test your claims, has been repeating over and over for quite a while now. Like a stuck record.

Prove your sincerity by choosing a college.

Or provide a demonstration at your local metal detector club, or your local high school science class, and let them administer the random double-blind test, so you know it's legitimate.

[architecad]

This is out of question

EE said

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

To criticize the LRL and MFD it's better to be educated in the field of electronics and electrical engineer and prove it, otherwise, how can we validate that you're ready to formulate a thesis, essay or some research about any electrical components or electronic device? Just to open a LRL and see inside? Is it a true engineering thesis? Common sense !! 8)

Arch

If you want some credentialed people to test your LRLs, then have your local college science department test them.

Or, just name any college that you feel would be "educated" enough, and the LRL can be sent there for official testing.

Which one of the above would you like to have happen?

EE

I don't need somebody else test my MFD. I test it by myself. I know when it's working or not. If you know how does works a function generator, you should know how does work an MFD.

Arch



Arch

[EE THr]

This is out of question

EE said

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

To criticize the LRL and MFD it's better to be educated in the field of electronics and electrical engineer and prove it, otherwise, how can we validate that you're ready to formulate a thesis, essay or some research about any electrical components or electronic device? Just to open a LRL and see inside? Is it a true engineering thesis? Common sense !! 8)

Arch

If you want some credentialed people to test your LRLs, then have your local college science department test them.

Or, just name any college that you feel would be "educated" enough, and the LRL can be sent there for official testing.

Which one of the above would you like to have happen?

EE

I don't need somebody else test my MFD. I test it by myself. I know when it's working or not. If you know how does works a function generator, you should know how does work an MFD.

Arch
Arch

Let's ask a college of your choice to verify your claim.

What college do you approve of, to have do this?

[architecad]

This is out of question

EE said

Why is it that people's education or occupation are only important to LRLs? You are saying that if someone doesn't prove their occupation, that makes LRLs work? That's not logical.

To criticize the LRL and MFD it's better to be educated in the field of electronics and electrical engineer and prove it, otherwise, how can we validate that you're ready to formulate a thesis, essay or some research about any electrical components or electronic device? Just to open a LRL and see inside? Is it a true engineering thesis? Common sense !! 8)

Arch

If you want some credentialed people to test your LRLs, then have your local college science department test them.

Or, just name any college that you feel would be "educated" enough, and the LRL can be sent there for official testing.

Which one of the above would you like to have happen?

EE

I don't need somebody else test my MFD. I test it by myself. I know when it's working or not. If you know how does works a function generator, you should know how does work an MFD.

Arch
Arch

Let's ask a college of your choice to verify your claim.

What college do you approve of, to have do this?

Again **************************************

EE

I don't need somebody else test my MFD. I test it by myself. I know when it's working or not. If you know how does works a function generator, you should know how does work an MFD.

Arch

[EE THr]

EE

I don't need somebody else test my MFD. I test it by myself. I know when it's working or not. If you know how does works a function generator, you should know how does work an MFD.

Arch

But, by your own standards, you are not an engineer---so you don't have the knowledge to make that statement. You have no idea whether knowledge of a function generator would give someone the knowledge to determine if your MFD works or not. Therefore your statement is invalid.

[architecad]

EE

I don't need somebody else test my MFD. I test it by myself. I know when it's working or not. If you know how does works a function generator, you should know how does work an MFD.

Arch

But, by your own standards, you are not an engineer---so you don't have the knowledge to make that statement. You have no idea whether knowledge of a function generator would give someone the knowledge to determine if your MFD works or not. Therefore your statement is invalid.

What did you say? You have no idea whether knowledge of a function generator Say it again to have more fun!!

Arch