I Will Prove to the World That My LRL Works!

[EE THr]

Which LRL Promoter Will Say: "I Will Prove to the World That My LRL Works?"

This topic is primarily for LRL makers and owners!

No insults will be necessary here, because only those LRLers who are willing to prove to the World that their device(s) work should be posting here. So the insult problem is officially solved! I mean, when you prove to the World that your LRL really works, what's left to agrue or insult about? Nothing! So this is the answer to peace amongst the LRL Section members! At last!

Anyone can ask polite questions, of course. That's what the LRL Section is all about, right?---Discussions which allow all members to help each other understand LRLs.

Anyone unwilling to prove to the World that his or her LRL works, should not be posting under this particular topic. Fair enough? After all, you can always start your own topic for other kinds of discussions about LRL devices.

And I ask that those with questions or commints, please keep them rational, and without insults.

This topic is needed, because proof is a primary matter in regards to Long Range Detection, as it has been ever since they were introduced to the market, many years ago.

So here, under this topic, we can weed out the chaff, and get right to the important things.

At last, an LRL topic without any insults, and only the things that really matter!


By "Prove to the World," it is meant, to provide proof which is considered adequate to establish to anyone and everyone interested, that the person's LRL works as advertised, in a manner as well as any other electronic device on the market would. Which is 100% of the time, under optimum conditions, and within manufacturer's specifications.

Any electronic device should be able to provide this proof. Unless it happens to be defective, in which case it wouldn't count. Only fully tested and operational units will count, so nobody will be treated unfairly. And, as many backup units can be used, as desired. Just to make sure it's a completely fair demonstration. Tests should be witnessed by unbiased parties, preferably known organizations, and video recorded, with signed affidavits from all the witnesses.

Standard rules for testing electronic devices will apply, as in A Scientific Test for LRLs.


LRL makers and owners who are willing to prove their claims---this thread is for you!


No need to thank me...just enjoy!




Please stay on topic here. No insults allowed. There is nothing to argue about.

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[EE THr]

It's been over two months, and all the LRL makers and promoters have been posting up a storm on other threads, but not one of them is willing to try and prove their claims about LRLs.

What's the matter with this picture?






ref: A Scientific Test for LRLs.

[mikusek]

If I invented one that worked, I would be out there locating the treasure. I wouldn't bother trying to sell copies, or an original until I became rich beyond belief first. And I could care less if anyone else doesn't believe, does believe, or is impressed, my pockets would be full and that would be enough.

There is no way to insult the inventor of any LRL machine that truly works, and there is only one way to prove it works, once proven that one actually works, there is no need to market the machines, because one would already have all the riches needed for life.

[aarthrj3811]

~mikusek~

If I invented one that worked, I would be out there locating the treasure. I wouldn't bother trying to sell copies, or an original until I became rich beyond belief first. And I could care less if anyone else doesn't believe, does believe, or is impressed, my pockets would be full and that would be enough.

There is no way to insult the inventor of any LRL machine that truly works, and there is only one way to prove it works, once proven that one actually works, there is no need to market the machines, because one would already have all the riches needed for life

Thank You for your opinion...The three long time Manufactures that I have met did not have the same opinions that you have...They were not greedy and invested the money they made from the selling LRL’s into their enjoyment of Treasure Hunting...In my opinion the majority of Treasure Hunters are not greedy.. I have always invested my finds to pay for future treasure hunting trips...And yes..It is always enjoyable that at years end to know that my LRL’s has paid for all my Treasure Hunting trips and bought new equipment for the next year.. If there is any money left over that will also be enjoyed..Art

[EE THr]

~mikusek~

If I invented one that worked, I would be out there locating the treasure. I wouldn't bother trying to sell copies, or an original until I became rich beyond belief first. And I could care less if anyone else doesn't believe, does believe, or is impressed, my pockets would be full and that would be enough.

There is no way to insult the inventor of any LRL machine that truly works, and there is only one way to prove it works, once proven that one actually works, there is no need to market the machines, because one would already have all the riches needed for life

Thank You for your opinion...The three long time Manufactures that I have met did not have the same opinions that you have...They were not greedy and invested the money they made from the selling LRL’s into their enjoyment of Treasure Hunting...In my opinion the majority of Treasure Hunters are not greedy.. I have always invested my finds to pay for future treasure hunting trips...And yes..It is always enjoyable that at years end to know that my LRL’s has paid for all my Treasure Hunting trips and bought new equipment for the next year.. If there is any money left over that will also be enjoyed..Art

Regardless of your imaginary stories, you have not addressed the topic of this thread, as usual.

[aarthrj3811]

~EE~

Regardless of your imaginary stories, you have not addressed the topic of this thread, as usual.

Gee EE. I just answered mikusek post with how I use my LRL’s.. Is that not what a treasure hunting web sites is about?.I don’t know how you want your imaginary thread answered as I am just a Treasure Hunter who uses a LRL to recover treasure..

After all it is what you stated..

Anyone can ask polite questions, of course. That's what the LRL Section is all about, right?---Discussions which allow all members to help each other understand LRLs

.Art

[aarthrj3811]

~signal_line~

Art, ask him how many millions of dollars he has made off his metal detectors.

It would not be good to ask him that question..His track record shows that he refuses to answer questions. Besides that I assume that he is not a treasure hunter..Art

[woof!]

You don't have to be a treasure hunter to design metal detectors. Besides, those VLF coin detectors are pretty much useless for anything more than a few inches deep. That guy has probably made enough money to support all of us, but you know how greedy people become, they can justify hurting poor people and feel good about it.

Spoken by a righteous person, without a doubt.

--Toto

[EE THr]

You don't have to be a treasure hunter to design metal detectors. Besides, those VLF coin detectors are pretty much useless for anything more than a few inches deep. That guy has probably made enough money to support all of us, but you know how greedy people become, they can justify hurting poor people and feel good about it.

What makes you think that everyone who posts documented facts about the LRL and MFD fraud scam is involved in the metal dector industry? That doesn't make any sense....

[woof!]

This may shed some light on EE's question:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,408021.0.html

[Capt.Betances]

This may shed some light on EE's question:

The "metal detector mfr's are afraid of LRL's" delusion

[FinderKeeper]

There was a time when I did not believe in Long Range Locators, Microwaves Ovens or Cell Phones but the time comes when we have to check out everything on the market to get results. I seen them work and I have had them at several of our sites and if done right they are great. Its just like anything else out there if the owner can't run it then he blaims the unit. We are doing a TV show in Nova Scotia Oct. 2012 with the History Channel and Scott Wolters and we are going after the Templar Treasure. We will have 2 LRL on site with 2 GPL's and Ground Radar. The LRL is first on site and I have seen it locate things and I still don't know how it works but I would never leave home with out it.

[signal_line]

Well said, Keeper. After reading the metal detector forums lately, I see the same garbage going on there--there are a few people (almost all hide behind several alias identities) who claim to have used such-and-such metal detector and bad mouth it. Or they pretend they are in the market for a detector then claim they "made the right decision" to buy a certain detector. These are people affiliated with a different brand detector and come up with lies by the hundred. Some of these miserables are the same people who bad mouth the LRL's. Lowlife scum.

[aarthrj3811]

~FinderKeeper~

There was a time when I did not believe in Long Range Locators, Microwaves Ovens or Cell Phones but the time comes when we have to check out everything on the market to get results.

Yes..I to remember how and who the skeptics were

I seen them work and I have had them at several of our sites and if done right they are great. Its just like anything else out there if the owner can't run it then he blaims the unit. We are doing a TV show in Nova Scotia Oct. 2012 with the History Channel and Scott Wolters and we are going after the Templar Treasure. We will have 2 LRL on site with 2 GPL's and Ground Radar. The LRL is first on site and I have seen it locate things and I still don't know how it works but I would never leave home with out it.

Have a good time recovering a Templar Treasure....Art

[wingmaster]

If the one you have works why would you need to invest in new equipment and there are some treasures out there that would be far more worth than just enough to fund your next hunting trips. You don't have to be affiliated with a detector or LRL company to lie about stuff I see people all the time that say they dug up some 1800's V nickles that look like they are in mint condition when all the ones I've ever dug look like crud, I don't even like to dig any nickles unless its a war nickle. Anyone living out west with a LRL that really works should have a ton of gold by now, I sure know I would with it being over $1600.00 an once.

[aarthrj3811]

~wingmaster~

If the one you have works why would you need to invest in new equipment

It’s called Technology....Some of the newer models provide you with more information.
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nd there are some treasures out there that would be far more worth than just enough to fund your next hunting trips.

Yes that could be true if that is the way you want to enjoy your hobby.

You don't have to be affiliated with a detector or LRL company to lie about stuff

That is also true

I see people all the time that say they dug up some 1800's V nickles that look like they are in mint condition when all the ones I've ever dug look like crud,

I also have dug up shinny coins and dirty coins.
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don't even like to dig any nickles unless its a war nickle.

I also know people who only want to dig old nails.
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nyone living out west with a LRL that really works should have a ton of gold by now,

I agree that there are millions of acres of Government land to search out in the west. And yes there are tons of gold out in the west that has not been located yet.

I sure know I would with it being over $1600.00 an once.

I just do what I enjoy doing. I did sell $2,100 in placer gold this year...Art

[wingmaster]

It would seem that all the european hordes would long gone by now but it seems that the people that find them are using a metal detector and I don't think thats an accident. I have never heard of a horde being found with a LRL and if they work as claimed it would seem there would be more found with a LRL than a detector since it points you it the direction, unlike a metal detector that you have to walk right over it by chance.

[aarthrj3811]

~wingmaster~

It would seem that all the european hordes would long gone by now but it seems that the people that find them are using a metal detector and I don't think thats an accident. I have never heard of a horde being found with a LRL and if they work as claimed it would seem there would be more found with a LRL than a detector since it points you it the direction, unlike a metal detector that you have to walk right over it by chance.

Every country has it’s own rules....A recent find with a metal detector valued at 50 million was reported...The government gave the finder $5,000 for his find. Some countries just owning the equipment can get your head cut off....Right in this country there are people who have been in court for 20 years just trying to get the permits to dig their treasure.
Many treasures found with LRL’s can be found on the internet....
[QUOTE]

they work as claimed it would seem there would be more found with a LRL than a detector since it points you it the direction, unlike a metal detector that you have to walk right over it by chance.[/QUOTE]

That is correct....Art

[TerryC]

I have a question for "the believers"... Why does every single LRL listed on e-bay have the notice RETURNS NOT ACCEPTED in the adds? I believe there is an Australian seller that lists 10 day money back.... but I believe that is an Australian requirement. TTC

[aarthrj3811]

~TerryC~

I have a question for "the believers"... Why does every single LRL listed on e-bay have the notice RETURNS NOT ACCEPTED in the adds? I believe there is an Australian seller that lists 10 day money back.... but I believe that is an Australian requirement. TTC

What’s new....I recently bought some Fish Hooks and a Computer Program from E-bay where returns were not accepted...Art