Any expert on mexican gold coins?

[EE THr]

~EE~

No, Art. The LRL promoters on here have provided only claims. As one topic title in this Section says, claims are not proof. You seem to think that by continually making claims, that it constitutes proof. A ton of brass will never magically turn into an ounce of gold. And a flood of nonsensical claims will never substitute for actual proof. The very fact that you so adamantly try to pass off your silly claims as "proof," is a total admission on your part that your fake devices

We are aware of what your personal opinions are..You claim that testimonials, photo’s of finds and Movies of finds are all fakes but you fail to present any proof that they are. It is you that make the claims that everything is fake
Gee, you have done that with all your posts on this thread..Art

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

End of story.

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

Second end of story.

 

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[aarthrj3811]

~EE~

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

Could you please explain to the membership what your opinion of Scientfic proof is?

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

Have you ask any of the 100’s of manufactures if they have ever performed any Scientist testing?

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

Please tell us which manufacturers have told you that they are avoiding Scientific testing?

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

Could you please post where these facts that have not been discussed can be found?

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

If showing photo’s of finds, testimonials of finds, and movies of finds is considered recruiting we are guilty of doing that...If disagreeing with your personal opinions is considered as an insult and a discredit of your points yes we are guilty

Please answer the questions that you deem to be important in this treasure hunting board...Art

 

[EE THr]

~EE~

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

Could you please explain to the membership what your opinion of Scientfic proof is?

I've posted it many times before. And you have read it many times before. This is just your tactic of mumbo-jumbo nonsense verbosity. See Scientific Method.

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

Have you ask any of the 100’s of manufactures if they have ever performed any Scientist testing?

No need to ask. If you disagree, just post the properly documented results of a properly administered test right here. Waiting...waiting...waiting....

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

Please tell us which manufacturers have told you that they are avoiding Scientific testing?

By not publishing real Scientific tests, they are obviously avoiding it. The fact that you are asking what it is, when you have already read it many times, shows that you are trying to ignore it. Duh!

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

Could you please post where these facts that have not been discussed can be found?

Again, it's all been posted on here many, many times before. You, however, are merely trying to pretend that is hasn't. Shame on you!

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

If showing photo’s of finds, testimonials of finds, and movies of finds is considered recruiting we are guilty of doing that...If disagreeing with your personal opinions is considered as an insult and a discredit of your points yes we are guilty

Since you continually claim that actual facts are merely opinions, you are intentionally trying to mislead potential "believers," once again. But thanks for making your fraudulent actions obvious.


Please answer the questions that you deem to be important in this treasure hunting board...Art

You are still trying to position fake LRLs with "treasure hunting." No real treasure hunter uses LRLs. Only LRL makers and their promoters, who allege to be "treasure hunters" claim to use LRLs, but no real proof of any found treasure has ever been shown. One manufacturer on here even refuses to state that his devices can locate gold or any other treasure. What a joke!

 

[aarthrj3811]

~EE~

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

Could you please explain to the membership what your opinion of Scientfic proof is?

I've posted it many times before. And you have read it many times before. This is just your tactic of mumbo-jumbo nonsense verbosity. See Scientific Method.

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

Have you ask any of the 100’s of manufactures if they have ever performed any Scientist testing?

No need to ask. If you disagree, just post the properly documented results of a properly administered test right here. Waiting...waiting...waiting....

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

Please tell us which manufacturers have told you that they are avoiding Scientific testing?

By not publishing real Scientific tests, they are obviously avoiding it. The fact that you are asking what it is, when you have already read it many times, shows that you are trying to ignore it. Duh!

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

Could you please post where these facts that have not been discussed can be found?

Again, it's all been posted on here many, many times before. You, however, are merely trying to pretend that is hasn't. Shame on you!

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

If showing photo’s of finds, testimonials of finds, and movies of finds is considered recruiting we are guilty of doing that...If disagreeing with your personal opinions is considered as an insult and a discredit of your points yes we are guilty

Since you continually claim that actual facts are merely opinions, you are intentionally trying to mislead potential "believers," once again. But thanks for making your fraudulent actions obvious.


Please answer the questions that you deem to be important in this treasure hunting board...Art

You are still trying to position fake LRLs with "treasure hunting." No real treasure hunter uses LRLs. Only LRL makers and their promoters, who allege to be "treasure hunters" claim to use LRLs, but no real proof of any found treasure has ever been shown. One manufacturer on here even refuses to state that his devices can locate gold or any other treasure. What a joke!

Thank You EE..In your opinion you have again avoided answering any of your claims...Sorry Carlie..Im hope you carch a fish soon..Art

 

[EE THr]

Thank You EE..In your opinion you have again avoided answering any of your claims...Sorry Carlie..Im hope you carch a fish soon..Art

Sorry Art, as I have pointed out to you many times before---I have no claims. You are the one with the claim, that your LRLs can find stuff. However, since there is no real evidence that your claim is true, it has been challenged for actual Scientific proof hundreds of times. Yet you have never offered to provide real proof, and only attempted to substitute additional claims for real proof.

So you claim that LRLs work, but you can't show real proof. And that's where it stands, and has stood for many years. All you have is talk, and that's not proof of anything, except a scam.

Why do you keep insisting that people just "believe" you, when you refuse to provide Scientific proof? No LRL has ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test, in all these years. The DOJ and courts have declared LRLs to be scams. Why do you want to spend all this time and effort, merely to expose yourself as an obvious scammer?

 

[aarthrj3811]

~EE~

Sorry Art, as I have pointed out to you many times before---I have no claims. You are the one with the claim, that your LRLs can find stuff. However, since there is no real evidence that your claim is true, it has been challenged for actual Scientific proof hundreds of times. Yet you have never offered to provide real proof, and only attempted to substitute additional claims for real proof.

So you claim that LRLs work, but you can't show real proof. And that's where it stands, and has stood for many years. All you have is talk, and that's not proof of anything, except a scam.

Why do you keep insisting that people just "believe" you, when you refuse to provide Scientific proof? No LRL has ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test, in all these years. The DOJ and courts have declared LRLs to be scams. Why do you want to spend all this time and effort, merely to expose yourself as an obvious scammer?

Yes we know that you claim that you have made no claims. Ever one can see all your claims..I see about a half dozen claims in just this post..art

 

[EddieR]

~EE~

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

Could you please explain to the membership what your opinion of Scientfic proof is?

I've posted it many times before. And you have read it many times before. This is just your tactic of mumbo-jumbo nonsense verbosity. See Scientific Method.

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

Have you ask any of the 100’s of manufactures if they have ever performed any Scientist testing?

No need to ask. If you disagree, just post the properly documented results of a properly administered test right here. Waiting...waiting...waiting....

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

Please tell us which manufacturers have told you that they are avoiding Scientific testing?

By not publishing real Scientific tests, they are obviously avoiding it. The fact that you are asking what it is, when you have already read it many times, shows that you are trying to ignore it. Duh!

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

Could you please post where these facts that have not been discussed can be found?

Again, it's all been posted on here many, many times before. You, however, are merely trying to pretend that is hasn't. Shame on you!

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

If showing photo’s of finds, testimonials of finds, and movies of finds is considered recruiting we are guilty of doing that...If disagreeing with your personal opinions is considered as an insult and a discredit of your points yes we are guilty

Since you continually claim that actual facts are merely opinions, you are intentionally trying to mislead potential "believers," once again. But thanks for making your fraudulent actions obvious.


Please answer the questions that you deem to be important in this treasure hunting board...Art

You are still trying to position fake LRLs with "treasure hunting." No real treasure hunter uses LRLs. Only LRL makers and their promoters, who allege to be "treasure hunters" claim to use LRLs, but no real proof of any found treasure has ever been shown. One manufacturer on here even refuses to state that his devices can locate gold or any other treasure. What a joke!

"No real treasure hunter uses LRL's".....I suppose you can show the proof of this wild claim? You can back pedal all you want, but you have made a claim that states in an offhand way that you know what device EVERY treasure hunter in the world uses, and none of them are LRL's. Give us all a break. It's just your opinion, not a provable fact.

I couldn't care less what everyone uses, but quit trying to pass your opinions as facts (again).

 

[EE THr]

~EE~

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

Could you please explain to the membership what your opinion of Scientfic proof is?

I've posted it many times before. And you have read it many times before. This is just your tactic of mumbo-jumbo nonsense verbosity. See Scientific Method.

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

Have you ask any of the 100’s of manufactures if they have ever performed any Scientist testing?

No need to ask. If you disagree, just post the properly documented results of a properly administered test right here. Waiting...waiting...waiting....

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

Please tell us which manufacturers have told you that they are avoiding Scientific testing?

By not publishing real Scientific tests, they are obviously avoiding it. The fact that you are asking what it is, when you have already read it many times, shows that you are trying to ignore it. Duh!

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

Could you please post where these facts that have not been discussed can be found?

Again, it's all been posted on here many, many times before. You, however, are merely trying to pretend that is hasn't. Shame on you!

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

If showing photo’s of finds, testimonials of finds, and movies of finds is considered recruiting we are guilty of doing that...If disagreeing with your personal opinions is considered as an insult and a discredit of your points yes we are guilty

Since you continually claim that actual facts are merely opinions, you are intentionally trying to mislead potential "believers," once again. But thanks for making your fraudulent actions obvious.


Please answer the questions that you deem to be important in this treasure hunting board...Art

You are still trying to position fake LRLs with "treasure hunting." No real treasure hunter uses LRLs. Only LRL makers and their promoters, who allege to be "treasure hunters" claim to use LRLs, but no real proof of any found treasure has ever been shown. One manufacturer on here even refuses to state that his devices can locate gold or any other treasure. What a joke!

"No real treasure hunter uses LRL's".....I suppose you can show the proof of this wild claim? You can back pedal all you want, but you have made a claim that states in an offhand way that you know what device EVERY treasure hunter in the world uses, and none of them are LRL's. Give us all a break. It's just your opinion, not a provable fact.

I couldn't care less what everyone uses, but quit trying to pass your opinions as facts (again).

It's a fact that LRLs don't work, so why in the World would any real treasure hunter use one?

If you disagree, then just post proof of one who does.

Waiting...waiting...waiting....

Oops!---There aren't any!

 

[EddieR]

~EE~

Homemade photos and videos are not Scientific proof.

Could you please explain to the membership what your opinion of Scientfic proof is?

I've posted it many times before. And you have read it many times before. This is just your tactic of mumbo-jumbo nonsense verbosity. See Scientific Method.

But thanks for bringing that up.

No LRL as ever passed a properly administered and documented Scientific test.

Have you ask any of the 100’s of manufactures if they have ever performed any Scientist testing?

No need to ask. If you disagree, just post the properly documented results of a properly administered test right here. Waiting...waiting...waiting....

All the LRL makers and promoters have always avoided real Scientific testing.

Please tell us which manufacturers have told you that they are avoiding Scientific testing?

By not publishing real Scientific tests, they are obviously avoiding it. The fact that you are asking what it is, when you have already read it many times, shows that you are trying to ignore it. Duh!

With real Scientific testing, The Department of Justice and courts have declared LRLs to be fake.

Could you please post where these facts that have not been discussed can be found?

Again, it's all been posted on here many, many times before. You, however, are merely trying to pretend that is hasn't. Shame on you!

Yet people like you continue to try and recruit "believers" by posting a flood of "stories" in which they allege to have found stuff. And continue to attempt to insult and discredit anyone who points out the truth, that real testing is required.

If showing photo’s of finds, testimonials of finds, and movies of finds is considered recruiting we are guilty of doing that...If disagreeing with your personal opinions is considered as an insult and a discredit of your points yes we are guilty

Since you continually claim that actual facts are merely opinions, you are intentionally trying to mislead potential "believers," once again. But thanks for making your fraudulent actions obvious.


Please answer the questions that you deem to be important in this treasure hunting board...Art

You are still trying to position fake LRLs with "treasure hunting." No real treasure hunter uses LRLs. Only LRL makers and their promoters, who allege to be "treasure hunters" claim to use LRLs, but no real proof of any found treasure has ever been shown. One manufacturer on here even refuses to state that his devices can locate gold or any other treasure. What a joke!

"No real treasure hunter uses LRL's".....I suppose you can show the proof of this wild claim? You can back pedal all you want, but you have made a claim that states in an offhand way that you know what device EVERY treasure hunter in the world uses, and none of them are LRL's. Give us all a break. It's just your opinion, not a provable fact.

I couldn't care less what everyone uses, but quit trying to pass your opinions as facts (again).

It's a fact that LRLs don't work, so why in the World would any real treasure hunter use one?

If you disagree, then just post proof of one who does.

Waiting...waiting...waiting....

Oops!---There aren't any!

Oops...ya dun fergot ta post that there proof uv yer claim. All of your strawman runaround fallacies doesn't change the fact that you didn't supply proof of your claim.

You made the claim, now show your documentation of it.

Whether I agree or disagree with your previous post doesn't matter. Stop trying to drag me (a person) into the fray. (that is what you always whine about, so stop it.)

Post your proof.

Man up, and just admit that your claim was only your opinion and nothing else. It's simple, really.

Here , I'll remind you of your claim: You stated "no real treasure hunter uses LRL's". (Just in case ya fergot the claim, no need to thank me, just show the documentation proving your outlandish claim.)

BTW, Dell uses LRL's....he has posted plenty of pics. Whether you accept them or not...is YOUR PROBLEM.

I'm also ...waiting.......waiting.......waiting.......waiting......waiting...


still waiting...on that proof.

 

[woof!]

Jan 27.

Gents, study that number and think about what it means.

I predict that this forum will vanish prior to April 1, better known as "fool's day". And you'll be getting what you well deserve.

--Toto

 

[Dell Winders]

Isn't that the goal of the Skeptic group? They have already shut down 3 websites and 4 LRL forums with nonsensical attacks and name calling to discourage my participation. Yours is not a prediction, it's the finalizing of an unscrupulous failed agenda.

The skeptic attacks on public forums, and dirty tactics behind the scenes to destroy my credibility, and the vindictive agenda to put me out of business started more than 16 years ago. I was the only person being attacked by the Skeptics for 3 years. I dropped out of the LRL business for 3 years and went into the GPR business. But, the Skeptic group continued to viciously attack relentlessly.

Fortunately, honesty and truth have prevailed. My credibility is intact, and I am still in business, and LRL's continue to work on principles of physics. The destruction of another LRL forum won't change that. The agenda has backfired on Randi, with consequences. It will backfire on Carl, and the others, such as yourself who follow their lead.

What a shameful way you chose to waste your talent. Dell

 

[Carl-NC]

Isn't that the goal of the Skeptic group? They have already shut down 3 websites and 4 LRL forums with nonsensical attacks and name calling to discourage my participation. Yours is not a prediction, it's the finalizing of an unscrupulous failed agenda.

It is hilarious irony that one of these durned Skeptics owns and runs an LRL forum! Even funnier is the fact that his LRL forum is the only one on Earth where people actually discuss developments and potential technologies, instead of just sitting around trying to out-bullsnort each other, or practicing their finest 6-year-old playground taunts.

Heck, Dell, even you can participate on said forum, long as you behave yourself. But, I think you have nothing to contribute.

 

[EddieR]

Isn't that the goal of the Skeptic group? They have already shut down 3 websites and 4 LRL forums with nonsensical attacks and name calling to discourage my participation. Yours is not a prediction, it's the finalizing of an unscrupulous failed agenda.

It is hilarious irony that one of these durned Skeptics owns and runs an LRL forum! Even funnier is the fact that his LRL forum is the only one on Earth where people actually discuss developments and potential technologies, instead of just sitting around trying to out-bullsnort each other, or practicing their finest 6-year-old playground taunts.

Heck, Dell, even you can participate on said forum, long as you behave yourself. But, I think you have nothing to contribute.

Yep, there is some interesting reading on that forum, I will admit. Fascinating stuff.

 

[EE THr]

I will even go a step further, and say that nobody uses an LRL to find anything. Because LRLs can't find anything, so how could anyone use one for that? They can't!





Someone might try hunting for stuff with one, but when it never works, they won't use it for treasure hunting.

I don't see any documented proof of any real treasure hunter using an LRL to actually find treasure. I'm still waiting for the proof I asked for. And all I'm getting is diversions from Eddie, because there is no proof.

 

[EddieR]

I will even go a step further, and say that nobody uses an LRL to find anything. Because LRLs can't find anything, so how could anyone use one for that? They can't!





Someone might try hunting for stuff with one, but when it never works, they won't use it for treasure hunting.

I don't see any documented proof of any real treasure hunter using an LRL to actually find treasure. I'm still waiting for the proof I asked for. And all I'm getting is diversions from Eddie, because there is no proof.

Diversions? Nope. I just asked you to perform a simple task....to show the proof of your claim. You claimed (in case you forgot again) that "real treasure hunters don't use LRL's". So....I take it you interviewed the thousands and thousands of treasure hunters to see what they use, right? Sure ya did.

It looks like it's okay for you to ask for proof and documentation for whatever you want, but if someone asks you to back up your claims, you (a) give a runaround (b) change the subject (c) just ignore them and hope they will quit asking.

Now, instead of just providing your proof/documentation that has been requested concerning your claim, you say you are getting "diversions" from me. Well, I sure aint getting proof from you!

You won't provide it because you can't! There is none! You made the statement up!

 

[EE THr]

I will even go a step further, and say that nobody uses an LRL to find anything. Because LRLs can't find anything, so how could anyone use one for that? They can't!





Someone might try hunting for stuff with one, but when it never works, they won't use it for treasure hunting.

I don't see any documented proof of any real treasure hunter using an LRL to actually find treasure. I'm still waiting for the proof I asked for. And all I'm getting is diversions from Eddie, because there is no proof.

Diversions? Nope. I just asked you to perform a simple task....to show the proof of your claim. You claimed (in case you forgot again) that "real treasure hunters don't use LRL's". So....I take it you interviewed the thousands and thousands of treasure hunters to see what they use, right? Sure ya did.

It looks like it's okay for you to ask for proof and documentation for whatever you want, but if someone asks you to back up your claims, you (a) give a runaround (b) change the subject (c) just ignore them and hope they will quit asking.

Now, instead of just providing your proof/documentation that has been requested concerning your claim, you say you are getting "diversions" from me. Well, I sure aint getting proof from you!

You won't provide it because you can't! There is none! You made the statement up!

It's very simple, Eddie.

The proof that there is none, is that there is none.

It you think that's wrong, then prove it wrong. Simple.

I'm still waiting....

 

[aarthrj3811]

~E~

It's very simple, Eddie.

Yes it is simple

The proof that there is none, is that there is none.

That is just why we keep asking you to prove your claims...It is clear that you have none

It you think that's wrong, then prove it wrong. Simple.

That is not what we come to the board to discuss...The 70 plus owner/operators that have told how the devices work for them, photo’s of finds on here and the links to other internet sites and many movies of finds are our proof..So..Please tell us what is wrong?

I'm still waiting....

Please tell us just what you are waiting for?...Art

 

[EE THr]

~E~

It's very simple, Eddie.

Yes it is simple

The proof that there is none, is that there is none.

That is just why we keep asking you to prove your claims...It is clear that you have none

It you think that's wrong, then prove it wrong. Simple.

That is not what we come to the board to discuss...The 70 plus owner/operators that have told how the devices work for them, photo’s of finds on here and the links to other internet sites and many movies of finds are our proof..So..Please tell us what is wrong?

I'm still waiting....

Please tell us just what you are waiting for?...Art

I'm waiting for someone to show actual proof (not home movies and tall tales) that LRLs work.

I'm waiting for someone to show that the DOJ tests and the courts were wrong when they found that LRLs are a fraud.

I'm waiting for someone to show a real treasure hunter (not an LRL maker, seller, or promoter) who uses any LRL to find treasure.

I'm waiting for you to show who your imaginary "70 plus owner/operators that have told how the devices work for them" are.

 

[Dell Winders]

He's waiting until everybody stops posting and the forum shuts down. Help him out. Dell

 

[EddieR]

I will even go a step further, and say that nobody uses an LRL to find anything. Because LRLs can't find anything, so how could anyone use one for that? They can't!





Someone might try hunting for stuff with one, but when it never works, they won't use it for treasure hunting.

I don't see any documented proof of any real treasure hunter using an LRL to actually find treasure. I'm still waiting for the proof I asked for. And all I'm getting is diversions from Eddie, because there is no proof.

Diversions? Nope. I just asked you to perform a simple task....to show the proof of your claim. You claimed (in case you forgot again) that "real treasure hunters don't use LRL's". So....I take it you interviewed the thousands and thousands of treasure hunters to see what they use, right? Sure ya did.

It looks like it's okay for you to ask for proof and documentation for whatever you want, but if someone asks you to back up your claims, you (a) give a runaround (b) change the subject (c) just ignore them and hope they will quit asking.

Now, instead of just providing your proof/documentation that has been requested concerning your claim, you say you are getting "diversions" from me. Well, I sure aint getting proof from you!

You won't provide it because you can't! There is none! You made the statement up!

It's very simple, Eddie.

The proof that there is none, is that there is none.

It you think that's wrong, then prove it wrong. Simple.

I'm still waiting....

I'm waiting too....on the proof of your totally outlandish asinine claim.

Face it. You got caught in another one. Is this the "science" that you advocate? Fabricating stories?

Now...quit running around in circles chasing your tail, and show your proof....or just admit you made it up.