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    Anyone Dealt With Dr John Melancon at Underground Discovery and Exploration Co.?

    Just wondering if anyone has ever dealt with this man or this company who appear to be out of the Phoenix AZ area. They claim to have a machine that sounds too good to be true.
    It is a long range ionic frequency detector. They say they have done over 4,000 field trips all over the world. The unit detects different frequencies of materials and they have painstakingly determined what the frequency is of certain different materials. So, for example, if the technician "tunes" the unit to the frequency of "refined gold" (like a coin) it can detect at very long ranges. This $500,000 machine has a limited "life" and has to be rebuilt regularly and that's not cheap. It can detect 10 oz. clumps of gold from several miles away, for example. It also detects "ionic halos", if gold, for example, was buried for a number of years and then dug up as it leaves a residual "halo" in the ground. They said that everyone who contacts them are 100% positive that they know where some precious metals are buried but only 1/10 of 1% actually result in a successful recovery. It's not because their machine is faulty. It's because most treasure hunters are afflicted with "wishful thinking syndrome" because they often see residual halos of metals in the target spot which means it was dug up previously.
    This is probably why they don't sell the machine or take a percentage of recovered finds. They only provide their expert technician who comes out for $5,000/day plus expenses (airfare, meals, ground transportation) with this briefcase-sized machine.
    If anyone has dealt with them I'd love to hear from you.

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    Do a search of Phoenix city licenses, Check the state attorneys web site to see if they have any complaints. This company you're referring to sounds real familiar for some reason. Contact them and ask them to send you a copy of their contract to review with your attorney. And any documentation or news articles showing their success. If you get excuses or no reply that should about answer it for you. I really hate to bash vendors or service providers, but I really think it's all hokum, and you'll just end up with a $5000 bucket of bunk.
    Also keep in mind, Customer endorsements don't hold a lot of weight! I can sell a can of sand and get some guys from work and a few neighbors to write up glowing reviews about how well my bucket of sand works for [fill in the blank]!
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    Yes, I'm a little familiar with Mr. Melancon (I won't call him Dr. as I understand his degree is from Trinity Southwest University, basically a diploma mill) and very familiar with the device. He is/was associated with Bill Floto, whom I met quite a few years ago when I was invited to witness a demonstration of the device, and offer my evaluation. My opinion was the device was a complete scam. All the acclaimed "science" behind it is a bunch of bullsnort. One statement is true, though: Most treasure hunters are afflicted with "wishful thinking syndrome." Ergo, a market for long range locators.
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    I think he's related to PT Barnum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl-NC View Post
    Yes, I'm a little familiar with Mr. Melancon (I won't call him Dr. as I understand his degree is from Trinity Southwest University, basically a diploma mill) and very familiar with the device. He is/was associated with Bill Floto, whom I met quite a few years ago when I was invited to witness a demonstration of the device, and offer my evaluation. My opinion was the device was a complete scam. All the acclaimed "science" behind it is a bunch of bullsnort. One statement is true, though: Most treasure hunters are afflicted with "wishful thinking syndrome." Ergo, a market for long range locators.
    MANY, MANY THANKS!!

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    "To good to be true"

    I can not seem to remember what it is that I heard about the above statement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlaughlin View Post
    Just wondering if anyone has ever dealt with this man or this company who appear to be out of the Phoenix AZ area. They claim to have a machine that sounds too good to be true.
    It is a long range ionic frequency detector. They say they have done over 4,000 field trips all over the world. The unit detects different frequencies of materials and they have painstakingly determined what the frequency is of certain different materials. So, for example, if the technician "tunes" the unit to the frequency of "refined gold" (like a coin) it can detect at very long ranges. This $500,000 machine has a limited "life" and has to be rebuilt regularly and that's not cheap. It can detect 10 oz. clumps of gold from several miles away, for example. It also detects "ionic halos", if gold, for example, was buried for a number of years and then dug up as it leaves a residual "halo" in the ground. They said that everyone who contacts them are 100% positive that they know where some precious metals are buried but only 1/10 of 1% actually result in a successful recovery. It's not because their machine is faulty. It's because most treasure hunters are afflicted with "wishful thinking syndrome" because they often see residual halos of metals in the target spot which means it was dug up previously.
    This is probably why they don't sell the machine or take a percentage of recovered finds. They only provide their expert technician who comes out for $5,000/day plus expenses (airfare, meals, ground transportation) with this briefcase-sized machine.
    If anyone has dealt with them I'd love to hear from you.
    Yes I have dealt with this Dr. I found out he is a minister with a scholastic degree. Very knowledgeable and world traveled. He was a consultant for Underground Discovery.

    As far as Underground Discovery is concerned I found their number and business not to be in AZ and was no big deal to me.

    I wanted to use their service for $5000. /day
    a. they assured me they could prove their equipment worked by inviting me to their test plot to do a search with the long range equipment. They gave me a sealed envelope with the depth and type of metal after I TOLD THEM WHAT I WANTED TO LOOK FOR. After I pinpointed the buried metal they gave me a shovel and let me dig it up. It took 3 hours of digging in clay. We started 2 miles away.
    b. before I gave them the $5000 in advance they told me there was less than 1% chance my treasure was still there.
    c. the first place we went was my farm in an adjoining state where I buried 30# of silver bullion. The operator found it within 8 minutes at the exact depth that I had buried it with a backhoe.
    d. Then the operator told me I had more silver in the barn. I had forgot when I smelted the silver, 4 pounds didn't fit in my mold so I poured it in a 5# coffee can to cool and forgot it. (The operator walked directly to it.)
    e. When we finally got to my treasure site, the operator set up and walked directly to a dug hole (approx. 30 yrs old). The depression did not need an archeologist, interpreter, or sign decipher to tell me that that elevated ridge that circled the hole and the depression in the center was screaming that someone beat me to the treasure.
    I had budgeted $300,000 for this project and now have more time to accompany my $295,000 for my next project. I couldn't be more happy.

    As a side note Underground Discovery didn't contact me, they do no advertising, all positive signs for me! I found their website and met them in Dallas.

    Happy hunting,
    Glen C.
    P.S. Dr. Melancon did not have or operate the equipment I was allowed to use. His comment to me was the most "bull snort" was coming from a company "AL", too many anomalies and false targets for the $50,000 price tag.
    Last edited by Cornel; Apr 07, 2017 at 01:16 PM.

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    Hmmmm....... A glowing review by a brand new member that is countering what had been previously said, interesting. What a coincidence that the new member just happened to join at just the right time to see this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl-NC View Post
    Yes, I'm a little familiar with Mr. Melancon (I won't call him Dr. as I understand his degree is from Trinity Southwest University, basically a diploma mill) and very familiar with the device. He is/was associated with Bill Floto, whom I met quite a few years ago when I was invited to witness a demonstration of the device, and offer my evaluation. My opinion was the device was a complete scam. All the acclaimed "science" behind it is a bunch of bullsnort. One statement is true, though: Most treasure hunters are afflicted with "wishful thinking syndrome." Ergo, a market for long range locators.

    But obviously Carl, your opinion/evaluation of this does not count. Why ? Because you are a "skeptic". Thus you are biased. Thus you can't say it doesn't work. After all, scientists once thought the earth was flat. Tsk tsk. And besides, I bet I can find testimonials of persons who found goodies with this device. The proof is in the pudding after all. Tsk tsk.

    Recant and admit they work !!
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    Tom everyone knows anecdotal evidence Trumps science every time. And are trying to say the earth isn't flat? I guess I had better cancel my membership in https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2screwed View Post
    Tom everyone knows anecdotal evidence Trumps science every time. ...
    Anecdotal evidence , aka "personal testimony" trumps everything. Which is why you and I can probably find "personal testimony" of people who saw Elvis. Or that think they are Napoleon. Or that a witch doctor cured their cancer, etc....

    And since we all know that "fact" is judged/evaluated by personal testimony (rather than vice-versa of judging our personal feelings/testimony in-light-of-fact), then presto: Those people did indeed see Elvis. And the fellow most certainly is Napoleon. And witch doctors are most certainly a legitimate form of medicine. eh ?

    Yup, I got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_in_CA View Post
    And witch doctors are most certainly a legitimate form of medicine.
    Now you're telling me witch doctors aren't real, I'll have you know I have an appointment with one next Tuesday to have my hemorrhoids chanted over and magic powder blown in my face.
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    2screwed, I can tell that you are poking fun at me and the issue. So then the next knee-jerk roll-out fall-back lines will now ensue:

    You are just being argumentative. Just being a smart @ss. Just being a troll.

    Yes: the earth is flat and witch doctors are great for hernia surgery, hemorrhoids, etc..... Remember: Personal testimony trumps science.
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    I'm surprised at you Tom, you forgot to call me a shill for big witch doctor.
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