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Aug 02, 2010, 11:20 AM
#41
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
""""((((In spite of what all the Geologists and "Experts" say. There are a lot of places out there where a lone Prospector, can pull>>>> $50 - $100<<<< a day out of some of those old mines. For some of them, that could be their only means of income.
Like I have always said... "You interrupt 'em, and their main goal is going to be to...
Keep You Quiet"!))))""""
Quoted By Mr. Jim Hatt
John V. Kemm """"((((CIBOLAS HEART))))"""" EL COBOLLO DE SANTA FE
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Aug 02, 2010 11:20 AM
# ADS
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Aug 02, 2010, 01:01 PM
#42
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
 Originally Posted by always lost
if i was working the mind, you would never know it ..
and most likely i would stop posting for some time if i was ..
gives new meaning to the saying : " he must work out "
i think if you walk up on a 4th degree black belt, hand to hand trained navy seal and you catch him working the mine, your not going to tell anyone ... i don't think anyone would ever hear from you again .. in fact i don't think they would ever see you again ..not in this life time
the Tayopa tunnel has only been found once in 400 years .. who going to your wake .....lol
Tsk tsk BB - threats in print are rarely ever a good idea, especially when at least 4 people have gone missing in the Superstitions since last fall.
By the way, could you make things simpler for everyone and just list all of your achievements, skills and qualifications in one post so we're all clear and don't accidently question something you're an expert at?
Thanks in advance.
"There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)
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Aug 02, 2010, 02:44 PM
#43
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
Let’s not jump in an actual Bluff spring mountain is Ground Zero LDM maps/
Peralta stones/Horse Priest Heart Geoglyphs """"blind-faith way"""" at the startling evidences we think we need to “prove” trying to counter “their Bluff spring mountain is Ground Zero LDM maps/Peralta stones/Horse Priest Heart Geogylphs facts” with “our Bluff spring mountain is Ground Zero LDM maps/Peralta stones/Horse Priest Heart Geogylphs facts.” let’s not let apparent """"evidences"""" intimidate us, let’s """"understand the right way"""" to think about evidence and the facts of the """"real world that really do conform"""" to, and """"confirm"""" it‘s no good convincing people to believe, but rather """"leading them to believe,"""" when they properly understand it confirms (by being consistent with) the """"evidence""""
Time and time again, if you look at history, people who have produced phenomenal results are those that have set goals that """"everyone else thought was unrealistic and even crazy.""""
Think about it. If 15 years ago, someone told you that almost everybody would be walking around with a telephone the size of a credit card; that could play music; take pictures; communicate with computers and send pictures; """"you would have thought that they were crazy."""" You would think that """"there was no way"""" that the above scenario could be done.
""""((((Bluff Spring Mountain Ironys )))"""" """"God never bluffs God never bluffs, 'bout Heaven or Hell.""""
Blind man's bluff Satan's promises are just a bluff. "Le bluff continue," I Never want to bluff any of you Because you are all """"Bluff Masters"""" All You Bluff Daddys and Counter-bluffs Remember the hardest tumble a man can make is to fall over his own bluff.
A lie has speed, but """"((((truth has endurance.))))"""" """"GOLD IS DEEP IN THE BEDROCK"""" And Im Not Bluffing. Quoted By John V. Kemm
John V. Kemm """"((((CIBOLAS HEART))))"""" EL COBOLLO DE SANTA FE
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Aug 02, 2010, 02:47 PM
#44
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
SFNM - I BEG YOU!!!!... PLEASE stop using all the unnecessary parentheses and quotation marks in your posts! They're hard enough to understand without all the extras "noise."
"There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)
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Aug 02, 2010, 02:59 PM
#45
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Aug 02, 2010, 03:03 PM
#46
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
is that a UFO landing site ...?
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Aug 02, 2010, 04:15 PM
#47
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
Sorry Santa Fe, at least 75 % of your conclusions about the LD are incorrect. I am qualified as an authority by being ME ! 
Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to live, not live to exist"
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Aug 02, 2010, 04:24 PM
#48
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
 Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa (Tropical Tramp
Sorry Santa Fe, at least 75 % of your conclusions about the LD are incorrect. I am qualified as an authority by being ME !
Don Jose de La Mancha
hahahahaha lol ....are you tell me that not a UFO landing site ...?
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Aug 02, 2010, 04:34 PM
#49
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
John V. Kemm """"((((CIBOLAS HEART))))"""" EL COBOLLO DE SANTA FE
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Aug 02, 2010, 07:06 PM
#50
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
HIO, UFO"S hmm, k, to be truthful, I have experienced them several times. Once, I was Flying North form Bakersfield, Calif. at 5,000 ft VFR, in early evening when above, and to my right, a brilliant green light, dropped down to my altitude , closed horizontally with me and flew formation with me for a bit, then, just as suddenly, took off straight ahead and in a few seconds, disappeared over the the horizon. I was never able to see just what it looked like since the brilliant light prevented me. The next day it was reported all over northern Calif.
Near here they appear to have a base under the sea of Cortez. They have been seen emerging from the sea and landing in it. Long story in which all of the village saw one hovering over head a hundred ft for a few minutes, scaring the H--- out of them, before it turned and disappeared into the sea. They could see figures moving around through what appeared to be windows, in a typical UFO saucer shape..
Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to live, not live to exist"
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Aug 02, 2010, 07:12 PM
#51
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
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Aug 02, 2010, 09:31 PM
#52
 Nemo me impune lacesset
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
Cactusjumper wrote
bb,
You used to say something intelligent now and again, but your posts have steadily slid into incoherent, disjointed, rubbish. For that reason, as well as your, super-thin, veiled threats I am putting you on ignore.
I hope you get some help for your mental problems as well as an, obviously, on-going drug problem.
I wish you the best,
I believe that Blindbowman's mind has been focused on family rather than treasures, and understandably so.
Santa Fe New Mexican wrote
Bluff Spring Mountain Ironys: God never bluffs God never bluffs, 'bout Heaven or Hell.
Blind man's bluff Satan's promises are just a bluff. "Le bluff continue," I Never want to bluff any of you Because you are all "Bluff Masters" All You Bluff Daddys and Counter-bluffs Remember the hardest tumble a man can make is to fall over his own bluff.
A lie has speed, but "truth has endurance." "GOLD IS DEEP IN THE BEDROCK" And Im Not Bluffing. Quoted By John V. Kemm
Whew - sorry for removing some of those quotes, hashmarks etc but they really make for tough reading. So we are all "bluff masters" here? I respectfully disagree - I don't bluff. I don't make empty threats, and if I give my word, I do my best to fulfill it. What is with all this hostility around here lately? Sheesh. 
Oroblanco
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"We must find a way, or we will make one."--Hannibal Barca
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Aug 02, 2010, 10:05 PM
#53
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
i have to agree with Or,
i do not make threats !....
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Aug 03, 2010, 03:48 AM
#54
 Ken Chichester
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
 Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa (Tropical Tramp
HIO, UFO"S hmm, ...Near here they appear to have a base under the sea of Cortez. They have been seen emerging from the sea and landing in it. ...typical UFO saucer shape..
Don Jose de La Mancha
WOW, never thought I'd ever hear about that again. About 14 years ago a book called "Behold a Pale Horse" was released on the internet as a safety precaution as it went to print. It was written by a former U.S. Naval Intelligence Briefing Team Member, and reveals information kept secret by our government. In his book he tells about being on watch when a very large UFO entered the water and returned to the air more than once. He was told never to speak of it again, but alas...
As I recall that part was written as part of the synopsis also. You might like to read it yourself, it was in most libraries. The librarian where I went to get it told me they categorized it under "occult" because of the unusual name and the picture on the cover. (When you see it you will understand)
I just googled his name and got (along with many others) this:
(William Cooper)"One of the first to begin exposing the Government for what it truly is, William Cooper was killed by authorities on 11/5/2001"
I see they made a movie, put it on audio, DVDs and every other media you can name. Looks like putting it on the internet didn't save him after all. I didn't know that until just now when I read your post and looked him up.
I'm sorry for diverging from the topic but got carried away when I read yours...
"dustcap"
Ken Chichester
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Aug 03, 2010, 03:51 AM
#55
 Nemo me impune lacesset
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
 Originally Posted by dustcap
 Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa (Tropical Tramp
HIO, UFO"S hmm, ...Near here they appear to have a base under the sea of Cortez. They have been seen emerging from the sea and landing in it. ...typical UFO saucer shape..
Don Jose de La Mancha
WOW, never thought I'd ever hear about that again. About 14 years ago a book called "Behold a Pale Horse" was released on the internet as a safety precaution as it went to print. It was written by a former U.S. Naval Intelligence Briefing Team Member, and reveals information kept secret by our government. In his book he tells about being on watch when a very large UFO entered the water and returned to the air more than once. He was told never to speak of it again, but alas...
As I recall that part was written as part of the synopsis also. You might like to read it yourself, it was in most libraries. The librarian where I went to get it told me they categorized it under "occult" because of the unusual name and the picture on the cover. (When you see it you will understand)
I just googled his name and got (along with many others) this:
(William Cooper)"One of the first to begin exposing the Government for what it truly is, William Cooper was killed by authorities on 11/5/2001"
I see they made a movie, put it on audio, DVDs and every other media you can name. Looks like putting it on the internet didn't save him after all. I didn't know that until just now when I read your post and looked him up.
I'm sorry for diverging from the topic but got carried away when I read yours...
"dustcap"
Ken Chichester
Wow!
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"We must find a way, or we will make one."--Hannibal Barca
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Aug 03, 2010, 04:08 AM
#56
 Ken Chichester
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
to All
On topic...
I too am of the belief that the last 4 hikers that disappeared in the Supers got too close to something, be it man or beast.
If it was man, or men, the bodies would probably be buried.
If it was a mountain lion, there would be clothing and bones left. The bodies would be carried back up to the place where they usually eat (and sleep.) Has anyone conducted a lion hunt yet to check it out? with the last couple of days being much cooler out here I would expect that to have taken place. The wet ground would have been better for tracking as well.
Just checked the forcast, after today it's going back up to 105 degrees so that opportunity is gone for now.
"dustcap"
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Aug 03, 2010, 06:49 AM
#57
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
 Originally Posted by dustcap
If it was a mountain lion, there would be clothing and bones left. The bodies would be carried back up to the place where they usually eat (and sleep.) Has anyone conducted a lion hunt yet to check it out? with the last couple of days being much cooler out here I would expect that to have taken place. The wet ground would have been better for tracking as well.
"dustcap"
I don't believe a lion would take all 3 men.Some info I found about their behavior.
Kills are generally estimated at around one large ungulate every two weeks. The period shrinks for females raising young, and may be as short as one kill every three days when cubs are nearly mature at around 15 months. The cat drags a kill to a preferred spot, covers it with brush, and returns to feed over a period of days. It is generally reported that the cougar is a non-scavenger and will rarely consume prey it has not killed; but deer carcasses left exposed for study were scavenged by cougars in California, suggesting more opportunistic behavior.
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Aug 03, 2010, 12:08 PM
#58
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
 Originally Posted by SGnAZ
 Originally Posted by dustcap
If it was a mountain lion, there would be clothing and bones left. The bodies would be carried back up to the place where they usually eat (and sleep.) Has anyone conducted a lion hunt yet to check it out? with the last couple of days being much cooler out here I would expect that to have taken place. The wet ground would have been better for tracking as well.
"dustcap"
I don't believe a lion would take all 3 men.Some info I found about their behavior.
Kills are generally estimated at around one large ungulate every two weeks. The period shrinks for females raising young, and may be as short as one kill every three days when cubs are nearly mature at around 15 months. The cat drags a kill to a preferred spot, covers it with brush, and returns to feed over a period of days. It is generally reported that the cougar is a non-scavenger and will rarely consume prey it has not killed; but deer carcasses left exposed for study were scavenged by cougars in California, suggesting more opportunistic behavior.
Another reason not to think this is a cat kill is the lack of buzzards. Big cats only partially hide their victims, so dogs (which were used) and buzzards (which are always around) would have had no trouble finding the bodies.
Mike
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Aug 03, 2010, 12:20 PM
#59
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
and yes all 4 of the people missing are in the area
Considering none of the 4 people missing have been found, how do you or anyone else know what area they are in? If the "area" is all of the northern, western and southern Superstitions, I would tend to agree as none of the fellows appear to have been at the east end, but beyond that they could have wandered anywhere.
"There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)
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Aug 03, 2010, 05:39 PM
#60
Re: “If someone is surreptitiously working the Lost Dutchman Mine"
High my friend have you consdered a Jaguar? They can get to #400 but in the US border states, around #200 + Remind me some day to tell you of the time that I actually peed on a huge one in Michoacan one night, while nude. sigh
Don Jose de La Mancha blushing
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