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  1. #31
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    Dec 2010
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    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    I do not really know exactly who the informant is.

    I do believe blindbowman is right about who it is. Every thing seems to fit with this being the person.

    Emory Taylor has a you be the judge website at
    threethirteens.com

    Disinformation is that boy's game. Triple cross, or triple double cross are understatements with him. It seems to be his duity to muddy the waters, cloud the issues until no one knows for sure what the truth is.

    One thing I know for sure is he and his group are not in the hunt for the Crawford Deity Stone or the ancient tablets, or the Punisher mine .......... well, not anymore! I wonder why?

    I'm sure the DSA has an agenda but it doesn't involve saving christians during the end times.

  2. #32
    mx
    Nov 2004
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    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    Evening peeps: fascinating.

    Don Jose de La Mancha

    "I exist to Live, not live to exist".
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  3. #33

    Dec 2005
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    Careful Don Jose,

    Read too much of this kind of stuff and your eyes will end up crossed.
    I think bb is the only person here who can hang with this guy and come away unscathed.

    Take care,

    Joe
    " Hell, I was there!" Elmer Keith
    "There is an ancient proverb that says a man can never forgive you for a wrong he has done you." From a wise friend.

  4. #34
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    Dec 2010
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    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    Hitler's Search for the Holy Grail
    PBS ^ | 11/30/01 | PBS

    Posted on Friday, November 30, 2001 8:55:36 AM by Aquinasfan

    Hitler's Search for the Holy Grail

    When Steven Spielberg made a movie about an intrepid archaeologist’s fight to keep a precious and powerful artifact — the Holy Grail — out of the hands of the Nazis, it was not widely known that the tale was based on truth. There really was a Nazi archaeological unit and it did send teams across the world to try to find the Grail.

    History meets Indiana Jones in HITLER’S SEARCH FOR THE HOLY GRAIL, a one-hour documentary airing on PBS Monday, November 27, 2000, 10:00 p.m. ET (check local listings). Host Michael Wood (IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT) explores how history was used as a political tool and how the theories of the Nazi historical department provided the ideology used by the SS (Schutzstaffel – "protection squadron") to justify genocide.

    The program outlines how the racialist theories of the SS were drawn from archaeology, myth and legend, as well as selected history. Nazi ideas about "Aryans" and the "master race" came out of historical and ethnic fantasies in which legends such as the Holy Grail and the lost city of Atlantis — supposed to be a home of the Aryan race — played their part.

    HITLER’S SEARCH FOR THE HOLY GRAIL contains rare and previously unseen footage, including

    * color film of the Nazi expedition to Antarctica;
    * film of the Nazi expeditions across the world, from the Baltic to Venezuela;
    * footage of the 1938 expedition to Tibet, with the measuring of skulls of Tibetans;
    * documentary evidence for expeditions to Peru, Iceland and Iran, and footage of SS chief Heinrich Himmler at archaeological sites.

    The film conjures the eerie world that permeated the thoughts of key members of the Nazi leadership, especially Himmler, and shows how top scholars, some of them still alive, collaborated in this project.

    HITLER’S SEARCH FOR THE HOLY GRAIL includes interviews with a former member of Himmler’s personal staff and the wife of a top SS commander, who give unique and unrepentant insight into the mentality of the Nazi inner circle. The program also includes a dramatic recording of the Nuremburg trial of Wolfram Sievers, the head of the SS Ahnenerbe ("Ancestral Heritage Society"), Himmler’s archaeological and historical unit. The Ahnenerbe’s task, according to Himmler, was "to restore the German people to the everlasting godly cycle of ancestors, the living and the descendants."

    Himmler was a member of the Thule Society, an extreme nationalist group named after one of the mythical homes of the German people. It was the society’s almost mystical belief in the greatness of the German past — to which Himmler subscribed with fanatical devotion — that was to provide the intellectual ballast to Nazi belief in race and destiny.

    The chief administrator of the Ahnenerbe, Dr. Wolfram Sievers, had been heavily involved in the criminal medical experiments that were carried out on Jews in concentration camps, all to prove racial differences and the superiority of the Aryan race. After Germany’s defeat in 1945, Sievers was brought before a war crimes tribunal, found guilty and sentenced to death. He was executed on June 2, 1948. The archaeological world of the Ahnenerbe died with Hitler, Himmler and Sievers; the Ahnenerbe, too, melted away. Many of its top archaeologists, however, returned, unpunished, to university life, only to re-emerge as leading academics in postwar Germany.

  5. #35
    us
    Dec 2010
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    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    The Ahnenerbe was a Nazi German think tank that promoted itself as a "study society for Intellectual Ancient History." Founded on July 1, 1935, by Heinrich Himmler, Herman Wirth, and Richard Walther Darré, the Ahnenerbe's goal was to research the anthropological and cultural history of the Aryan race, and later to experiment and launch voyages with the intent of proving that prehistoric and mythological Nordic populations had once ruled the world.

    The organization was incorporated into the larger SS in January 1939.

    In 1935, having joined the SS that year, Sievers was appointed Reichsgeschäftsführer, or General Secretary, of the Ahnenerbe, by Himmler. He was the actual director of Ahnenerbe operations and was to rise to the rank of SS-Standartenführer by the end of the war.

  6. #36
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    Jun 2010
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    D.E. I like your other name better BABAYMICK1. You need to be more cautious!! I have been following your work but you need to go about this in a different manner. Enough said. You can contact me via the site you use BABYMICK1

    Best Wishes
    Kurt Painter

  7. #37
    us
    Dec 2010
    152

    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    In 1931 he traveled to the Pyrenees region of southern France where he conducted most of his research. Aided by the French mystic and historian Antonin Gadal, Rahn argued that there was a direct link between Wolfram Von Eschenbach's Parzival and the Cathar Grail mystery. He believed that the Cathars held the answer to this sacred mystery and that the keys to their secrets lay somewhere beneath the mountain pog where the fortress of Montségur remains, the last Cathar fortress to fall during the Albigensian Crusade.

    Rahn wrote two books linking Montségur and Cathars with the Holy Grail: Kreuzzug gegen den Gral (Crusade Against the Grail) in 1933 and Luzifers Hofgesind (Lucifer's Court) in 1937. After the publication of his first book, Rahn's work came to the attention of Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, who was fascinated by the occult and had already initiated research in the south of France.

    Rahn joined his staff as a junior non-commissioned officer and became a full member of the SS in 1936. It was an uneasy partnership for Otto Rahn; later, he explained his SS membership to friends in the following way: "A man has to eat. What was I supposed to do? Turn Himmler down?" Journeys for his second book led Rahn to places in Germany, France, Italy, and Iceland.

    Openly gay, and having fallen out of favour with the Nazi leadership, he was assigned guard duty at the Dachau concentration camp in 1937 as punishment for a drunken homosexual scrape.[2] A staged marriage failed to rehabilitate him in the eyes of his superiors. He resigned from the SS in 1939. He wrote: "There is much sorrow in my country. Impossible for a tolerant, liberal man like me to live in the nation that my native country has become."

    On March 13, 1939 nearly on the anniversary of the fall of Montségur, Rahn was found frozen to death on a mountainside near Söll (Kufstein, Tyrol) in Austria. His death was officially ruled a suicide.

    Of course most people believe Rahn found something and refused to turn it over to the SS, so Himmler had Rahn murdered and made to look like he killed himself in the way of the Cathars.


  8. #38
    us
    Dec 2010
    152

    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    Hummm.........
    BabyMick1 ? Don't know that.
    silent hunter?
    I'm just guessing but were you the one trying to get pis of me when I was sunbathing up on Picacho Butt this last June?
    silent hunter ....... Hummm.........
    Well, I'm sorry you missed out old boy. Yes they are REAL and they are fabulous. Better luck next year.
    Don't even pretend you've seen me around. I'm new and don't go in at the trailheads. I like my secrets ............ and sun.
    I'll be seeing ya. But you wont be seeing me.

  9. #39
    us
    Dec 2010
    152

    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    Here is the common misconception about Parzival.
    Christians state it constantly as if it were the truth.
    Because they don't want you knowing the truth.

    Parzival is a major medieval German romance by the poet Wolfram von Eschenbach, in the Middle High German language. The poem, commonly dated to the first quarter of the 13th century, is itself largely based on Chrétien de Troyes’s Perceval, the Story of the Grail and mainly centers on the Arthurian hero Parzival (Percival in English) and his long quest for the Holy Grail following his initial failure to achieve it.

    That's the common misconception the Christian want everone to believe but which Grail historians know is false.

  10. #40
    us
    Dec 2010
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    Oh, my boy! Such private messages.
    Ok, so now you know I’m a woman.
    I was in the Air Force until I was 22.
    Yeah, a daring Eagle.
    No, I wasn’t raised in AZ. I’m new.
    I was in ….. ah …….. Hummmm.

    While in the AF I was in a ….. group requiring special training, some of which was in survival in different climates, and evasion without detection. Believe me. You wont be seeing me.

    I like being naked in the great outdoors. Especially in the desert sun.
    I was …… hummmm …….. In several place while in the AF. One was Germany.

    While in Germany I met ……. ah …… I like it both ways so don’t jump to conclusions. I met a ……. person … nicknamed BigDreamer. It was in a drinking establishment. So there’s the answer some of you asked … yes I drink. But I like making my own ……. Ohoooo a hint about where I’m from.

    BigDreamer is a German treasure hunter. BigDreamer’s special interest is the Lost Dutchman, because he was German. BigDreamer would like to someday come to the US and search for the LDM. That’s why BigDreamer has the nickname BigDreamer.

    BigDreamer allowed me to barrow a book about the LDM but I had to buy BigDreamer 3 other books first. Yes I could have just ordered the book I wanted to read but by the time it arrived I would no longer have been on leave. I read Bob Ward’s book. For some strange reason I had the impression Ward wasn’t telling the whole story concerning Chuck Crawford. I don’t know why. I’d never heard of the LDM, or Bob Ward, or Chuck Crawford.

    I couldn’t shrug it off. It troubled me. Why did I get the impression Ward wasn’t telling the whole story about Crawford. People I didn’t know and never heard of before. It was haunting me. When I was discharged I made for AZ. That’s why I was at Picacho Butt across from Crawford’s La Barge claims. I was trained for surveillance.

    I saw lots of people. Two of which just happened to be Phil Reinhardt and Rick Gwynne … I didn’t know their names at the time … I found them out later. They seemed to be purposefully posing for pictures and taking samples. That’s what was different about them and all the others I saw on that trip. I followed them of course. I only found out later it was what Emory Taylor calls The Treasure Box Expedition.

    Funny how I missed it. But I didn’t find out about the Crawford biography until I read the article on Crawford in the Territorial News. Let me tell you something about Mr. Taylor. He’s never had a passport. I know. I checked. Ah ……. Why would I check that. I saw him in Germany. I didn’t know it at the time. I’d no idea who he was. He was talking to BigDreamer when I came in. BigDreamer waved me off. About 15 later. Taylor left and BigDreamer waved me over. Of course I asked BigDreamer who he was. BigDreamer said “He’s someone you need to stay away from.” I’m just wondering … ah … how does one got to and from Germany without a passport?

    Imagine my surprise when I found out Taylor is Crawford’s biographer. And how super surprised I was to find out Taylor’s the one who sent Reinhardt and Gwynne on the treasure box expedition. My jaw hit the floor when I found out Reinhardt and Gwynne had used Crawford’s aerial photograph for their solution to the Peralta stones. I literally had to sit my ass down when I found out Crawford and Webb had used that same aerial photo 10 years before Reinhardt and Gwynne. I about **** my pants when I found out Taylor was the one who put up the fence for Crawford at the Thank You claims on the Burns Ranch. The fence the State sent a crew out to remove and fined Crawford for. Which cause the dispute between the State and Crawford as to the location of the claims. Which caused Crawford to order the aerial photos from the US Geological Survey Depart. Taylor instigated the whole thing and had Crawford order those aerial photos.

    Funny isn’t it how Taylor is at the center of this whole thing. I’ve tried to investigate that aspect of this. But it’s super loaded with disinformation. You endlessly spin your wheels and get nowhere.

    Anyways ……. Hummmm …….. now you know I’m a woman and was in the AF. If yah see someone hang gliding in the Sups …… ah … they didn’t nickname me daringEagle for nothing.
    Now back to business boy! As I see it there’s two possible ways Holy Stones Inc. got the gold-platinum to pour those coin logos with. Either the Crawford - Webb expedition or the Treewood expedition. The Reinhardt - Gwynne expedition wasn’t it. I watched them, and checked after they left their discovery area. There’s no gold - platinum there. You know … it could be the Crawford - Webb expedition and the Treewood expedition went to the same place ……. Hummmm.

    Yes, boys I drink. I’ll even have one with you. But the only way you’ll know it is when you wake in the morning to find your bottle half empty.

  11. #41
    us
    Dec 2010
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    No BB I'm not Anne Rue.

    Ya know, I'm getting 5 times more emails then posted replies at this forum.

    Ah ... no I'm not sorry I gave a lot of you my email address. I'm not even upset by so many of you hitting on me. "Trail sex" sound interesting but no.

    As to how old I am ....... I thought you guys were clue chasers. Ah ... I told you I was in the AF until I was 22. And that I was at Picacho Butt when the treasure box expedition went by. It's is the crawford biography, and in the book by Reinhardt and Gwynne. Surely you clue chasers can figure out my age from that.

    Ah ... no, I'm not one bit worried about anyone following me in the Supers. Ya know, i've been in the Supers watching all you guys since the treasure box expedition, and not one of you has known it. Well ....... not until I told you.

    BB you can reply to my posts if you want. I love to talk about the ....... German Holy Grail.

  12. #42

    Dec 2005
    Arizona
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    D.E.,

    I appreciate the private message you sent me but, as I have posted many times before, I don't exchange email's or private messages with people I don't know.

    If you would like to continue, I will need your real name, phone #, email address and home address. I will provide the same information to you if you
    decide that's acceptable.

    As anyone here can tell you, I make no exceptions, and do not give out others private information to anyone.

    Good luck,

    Joe Ribaudo
    " Hell, I was there!" Elmer Keith
    "There is an ancient proverb that says a man can never forgive you for a wrong he has done you." From a wise friend.

  13. #43
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
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    Re: Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

    HMMMM HMMMM Incidentally hang gliding in the supers is not the way to go, unless you can con BB into hauling the glider out of the many canyons and back up to a launching ridge, plus you will 'always' be below the surrounding hills, except on an exceptionally hot day. Put a Rotex on it he hehe. or go for a powered sail.

    Interesting story so far gal, more.

    "Whats this getting 'hit on' business"? I always thought that Cactus was a semi gentleman, or was it BB?

    Don Jose de La Mancha

    "I exist to Live, not live to exist".
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  14. #44
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    Mar 2007
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    DE,
    I have tried to follow your posts and other than asking for info on Walter Gassler, I am not sure what point you are trying to make. "Dutchman & Government Conspiracy request " what does that mean?. I am familier with a number of the individuals that you have refered to and they are an interesting bunch to say the least.
    Would you mind backing up just a little and maybe in a paragraph or two explain what your main point is.
    Thanks,
    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp
    HMMMM HMMMM Incidentally hang gliding in the supers is not the way to go, unless you can con BB into hauling the glider out of the many canyons and back up to a launching ridge, plus you will 'always' be below the surrounding hills, except on an exceptionally hot day. Put a Rotex on it he hehe. or go for a powered sail.

    Interesting story so far gal, more.

    "Whats this getting 'hit on' business"? I always thought that Cactus was a semi gentleman, or was it BB?

    Don Jose de La Mancha

    "I exist to Live, not live to exist".
    ... lol if she thinks i was hitting on her she is nuts .. lol

    i have a very beautfull girlfriend and i do not cheat. i was married 25 to my second wife and never cheated and never will ..

    its sad what the culture has become .. .. and you wonder why i dont want to be part of it ..

    if she is sunbathing in the supers she not as smart as she thinks ..lol


    i dont beleive in cheating and i do not need another women in my life thank you .. now about that sexy mule ...lol


    besides that ,once you have custom chrome between your legs .. nothing rides better ...

 

 
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