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  1. #16
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    It looks a lot like I would sketch a profile view of a heart shaped mound of rubble.
    The "dot" on the line is a clue,perhaps,if one thinks like a draftsman.

    I have also seen something elsewhere that also appears to match,complete with a visible "R".
    The overhang above has a similar profile to the wavy line.

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    Somehiker---

    Well, something like that could be very convincing, especially with the "R" included.

    I always thought it was the Salt River, especially with the other line on the bottom of the "lower" Stone, the one that looks very similar to the river that drops down and goes through Florence, and crosses highway 79 at Cemetary Road.

    What do you think about the topo alignments on CJ's map?

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Quite a few folks believe the lower line is the Gila River.Twin Buttes and the scrapings probably factor in that belief.

    Joe has invested a lot of time on his topo theory.Others,as well,are convinced that the solution lies amongst the contours and elevations of the 1900 USGS Florence Quadrangle T-Map.I have my own theory,and view the Stone maps as being partly similar to the "Perfil" map and partly similar to the "Fish" map in concept ,though based on neither.

    Regards:SH.
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    Burp, anyways, R could stand for {radians}meaning right angle 90degrees
    which is square on the bottom,{ the base},the longest edge is called a "hypotenuse",it is the edge opposite the right angle. Possibly these stones were carved by a person with Masonic learnings,which means they can be de-coded by a person with the same teachings.Burp

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Oldergoate wrote
    Is it not possible that the pyramid shaped image on the stones was actually a pyramid structure that had its top blown off,lets say sometimes in the late 1700"s,to cover up that fact
    Most, if not all pyramids in the Americas were built with flat tops, called a "truncated" pyramid. The flat top was used to build a temple on or a shrine, sacrificial furnishings etc and used a bit like a 'stage' so that large numbers of people would be able to watch the proceedings, which were commonly human sacrifice. So it could have had a flat top due to being built that way, instead of having a pointed top removed.
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco
    Oldergoate wrote
    Is it not possible that the pyramid shaped image on the stones was actually a pyramid structure that had its top blown off,lets say sometimes in the late 1700"s,to cover up that fact
    Most, if not all pyramids in the Americas were built with flat tops, called a "truncated" pyramid. The flat top was used to build a temple on or a shrine, sacrificial furnishings etc and used a bit like a 'stage' so that large numbers of people would be able to watch the proceedings, which were commonly human sacrifice. So it could have had a flat top due to being built that way, instead of having a pointed top removed.
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    There are two things on the "Peralta" Stone Maps that stand out to me the most. They stand out, because it seems to me that they are the most unusual.

    First is the gradient-depth, pointed line, which comes out of the hole in the middle of the triangle. It's odd, because it is the only marking on the maps, that has an intentionally varied depth. None of the other markings use depth as part of their meanings. So why does this one?

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    And the other, of course is the "Needle." This peak seems amazing to me, because of the reasons stated in post #12, above. It is unique because---

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    Not just any peak!


    So, why is this needle a very descriptive drawing, of a specific thing, when everything else is symbols and squiggles? Also notice that in both instances, each is located above water.


    Both the gradient-depth line and the peak, break the rules of the rest of the Trail Map. Is it just coincidence, or are these two items supposed to be "keys" to the code?


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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    EE.:

    There have been suggestions that the Triangle/Slash symbol represents Comet Peak (33.2939N 111.269W ).
    I myself looked into the possibility that a comet,observed in 1847,might have inspired the use of such a symbol.
    There was such a comet,discovered by astronomer Maria Mitchell.Also 23P/Brorsen-Metcalf .
    Perhaps such a comet had been first reported at that position within a named star cluster or sign of the zodiac.A triangle perhaps?
    Another maybe was the well known Halley's Comet,named posthumously and rightfully in honour of Edmund Halley,who correctly calculated it's return in Dec 1758.I also looked at whether or not the 1847 on the Stones,could have been a similar predictive calculation... if one were to combine the known period variability with one of the "formulas" inscribed on the stones.Could 1847-(76 to 79yrs) -/+ such a "formula" give a possible date for something related to the maps themselves?

    Regards:SH.
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    Ok, my take on these puzzle codes,
    The knife matches a same symbol on a rock face carveing,maybe a warning.
    The so called head stone , is really a door,with a cross style marking on it.
    The peak,is a right angle,,shoulder of the pyramid
    The pointed deep needle type object is a stake marker I believe was put into the river bottom as a boat mooring, or on a mound of land to note the place of the pyramid and it is in front of the pyramid.
    my takes.



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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    While the "comet" ideas yielded some interesting leads,I eventually found something which I found to be of even greater interest.
    Closer I think,to what I had been looking for.

    The dagger,remember,has both what appears to be a "D" (or similar symbol) on the handle,as well as what appears to be a directional arrow as a hilt.These two additions imply this dagger's meaning to be much more than "any",IMO.
    The dagger may be the single most important symbol to be considered when trying to understand the Stones.
    A dagger is quite suitable as a tool for scratching directions in the dirt,or as a pointer as well.Probably the reason for it's inclusion on the stone.It is also more effective than a single edged knife as a weapon,offensive and defensive.It has an advantage,over a knife,of being able to cut both ways.In a sense a kind of "equivocator".

    Regards:SH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somehiker

    The dagger,remember,has both what appears to be a "D" (or similar symbol) on the handle,as well as what appears to be a directional arrow as a hilt.These two additions imply this dagger's meaning to be much more than "any",IMO.

    Regards:SH.

    That's true. I was trying to distinguish between a symbol and an actual depiction of "The Needle," and I left out those special parts of the dagger symbolism.

    Sometimes people say it's an "A," also, but all the other A's are pointed, while this letter is rounded, so it appears to be a "D."

    Also, the "D" in "DEL," on the Horse Stone does have the same kind of "wings," which go past the vertical line, and they are also in the same proportion, with the longer one being at the top. This could be an indicator that the same person carved all three stones, contrary to other appearances which make it seem that a different person carved the Priest/Horse Stone.

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    On the dagger, there is also a down arrow coming from the middle of the blade, down onto the handle, plus a right arrow made with part of the hilt guard. The big question is, what does all that mean? Heh-heh.

    Also note that the lines which I take to be rivers, appear on both the Trail Maps and the Horse Stone (which is the reverse of the Priest/Witch Stone). Yet there are two extra "circle within circle" symbols on the Priest Stone, between the two "rivers." One of these is far to the right of the area which appears to be depicted on the Trail Maps.

    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    I originally thought of the dagger as a key of some sort, perhaps the D looking image is a slot that fits over a specially designed bolt that turns,or the dagger may be designed to spilt apart,and each section may be a key for another fitting. Shades of indiana jones.

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    OG,

    The point of the knife rests on Parker Pass. The arrow on the hilt takes you over Tim's Saddle and down into West Boulder. At that point, you pick up the trail that curves to the east, over a small saddle and directly to the heart in Little Boulder.

    It's a puzzle that any child, without preconceived conclusions, could do easily.

    The maps were created by people who knew the area well. That would preclude Travis, as you would need intimate knowledge of the legends, stories and terrain to put them all into your map. That knowledge would take many years of hands-on experience in the mountains.

    Just one man's uninformed opinion.

    Take care,

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    EE.:
    Have a gander at the LIFE Magazine Photo of the Upper Trail Map.Enlarge it,so you can see the mark below the hilt of the dagger.
    Then tell me what you think it is.It's different than the mark on the Stone at the SMM.There are other differences between the two stones as well,which could indicate the use of a duplicator to make copies of the stone maps.
    see: http://www.copycarver.com/FAQ.htm .....you can make one yourself.
    This kind of equipment has been in use for some time by makers of gravestones,signage,decorative stonework etc.
    It is gradually being replaced by CNC abrasive/high pressure water equipment.

    Regards:SH.
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    OL Goat:

    I suspect that the authors of the IJ series,and other hollywood adventures,were influenced by a couple of centuries of prior treasure tales.
    Innovative thought,however.

    Regards:SH.
    Hell,you ain't never too old to look!

 

 
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