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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Somehiker---

    I can't find the Life Magazine photo on the Net.

    But I do know that many copies were made with molds. Something which resembled sandstone was poured into the molds, to make the copies look somewhat believable. Some are all one color, and some look like they were stained in various places, to look more natural.

    Some appear to be copies of copies, because certain subtle marks and "scratches" are smooth on them. Like the heart under the writing on the Priest Stone in some photos looks like someone had tried to "erase" it, or whatever might have been there before.

    I found one drawing that eliminated the "Needle" from the Heart Stone. In its place, there is what looks like a mountain range. Also, the omega symbol is below a creek which isn't even on any of the pictures of the Heart Stone that I've seen. And the break in the heart lobe isn't shown, either, except on the side with the zeros on it (in another photo in the link below). An interesting fact is that the little hole or dent in the "river" line is included in this drawing, showing meticulous attention to detail. (?)

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    And with it was this one, without the Heart Stone, showing what could be a degree symbol after the 10 in the recessed heart area.

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    They are from a magazine article by Bernice and Jack McGee, but it doesn't say which mag, or the date of it. There are also some other interesting photos with them, like the topo of the horse head.

    You can see the whole thing on this eBay page. You have to click on "Description," and keep scrolling down to see all of the article and it's photos.

    Added: I thought I had seen these drawings before, and I just re-found the site where they had been (and stlll are). they are on the Garry & Carol Cundiff Website, on this page, in a full-size copy of the original article from Frontier Times, dated April--May, 1973.
    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Another interesting factoid which appears in the test of the above 1973 article is, "Shaped like a huge valentine, the yellowish rock was hewn...from a slab of red chalcedony...."

    While a caption under the drawings simply says---

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    Yellowish?

    In all the photos that I have seen, it either just looks brown, or tan and reddish.

    (The pictures of the Heart Stone appearing in my posts above, are lightened a bit to show the symbols better.)


    Here is one from Cactus Jumper. It's the most colorful one I've seen (the rest just look brown). If someone asked me what color it was, I don't think I would say "yellowish"---

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    Is there another Heart Stone somewhere?
    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    And gollum shows a comparison of different lower Trail Stone photos, on the "Tumlinson Stones..." thread, in this post.
    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    EE.:

    Some pics.
    Stone from below a "shaped" collection of apparently man made constructs on a mountainside.
    Another from a small pile of rocks on top of a big pile of rocks (in the shape of a heart) near the top of a canyon on another mountain.
    Third and fourth on following post,are of two similar stones found,one at the beginning and one at the end of a trail that ends on a bluff overlooking the mound.The first has a "V' ,the second does not.

    Regards:SH.
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Three and four:

    Both were found on isolated flat groupings of exposed rocks (not piled).
    Posted in reverse order.
    Stone with "V" was at beginning
    Stone with hole only(closer to center of stone,though not exact) was at end.
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    A better photo of the first stone.
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Somehiker, that horse head stone impression is very reminiscent;
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    That's interesting.Where did you find that?
    If you're referring to the second photo,I don't see a horse.Or anything I would consider unnatural .

    SH.
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    The horse head I saw on your photo I have encircled (had to borrow your photo to do this, hope that is OK) here it is:
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    Could be 100% natural, don't know. The coin photo is not my own coin, I do have one like this but not so nice.
    Roy

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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Here is a photo with both 1 and 2 together.I brought them both home with me,so I will have another look for anything on that stone.
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    Another descrepancy that I noticed, between the drawings in the McGee's article, and all of the "Peralta" Stone Map photos I've seen, is on the lower left of the Priest Stone---

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    So, is it an infinity symbol, or a "P"?
    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

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    Somehiker---

    Are those shaped stones from the Superstitions?
    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

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    EE.:

    Yes,all four are from the Superstitions,found as I have described.They also appear to be from the same area as the stone in the first photo,and photographed pretty much as I found them in April of 2010.

    Regards:SH.
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    EE.:

    I believe it's a "P".

    I have "hunch" that two stone hearts remain to be found.....possibly where an "8" is carved prominently in the relevant stone.
    IF......they were not misplaced as were the other pair.
    My "hunch" also suggests that all "4" hearts were intended to be cached as one.

    Here is an enlargement of the symbol under the hilt of the dagger.

    Regards:SH.
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    Re: The "Peralta" Stone Maps --- On Their Own

    Somehiker---

    You mean the downward pointing arrow? When I read your question about it, for some reason I thought "under the handle." Dumb mistake.

    I've seen that arrow missing on some drawings, too.

    Is your image from the Life article? It looks like a "W."



    What do you think about the "yellowish" Heart Stone, as described twice, in the McGees' article?



    By "pair," do you mean both sides of one stone?
    An evil group is comprised of the insane, who, out of fear, imagine that they must conspire to destroy those who are honest and able. A good group is made up of honest people, who could each survive on their own, yet work together openly for betterment for themselves and others.

 

 
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