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  1. #451
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    az, volcanics , no eruptions, are precisely involved in the ores at Tayopa.












    tayopa, they origionatedthrough fractures i the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    jim..sounds like a bunch of b.s. to me
    Dave,

    I will defer to your expertise...seeing as I know next to nothing about this and you've spent your life in the mining field ...

    Does anyone know if the analysis of the Holmes ore was done by the UofA geology dept, or was it done by some other outside agency that wouldn't have access to UofA's collection? Thanks, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    Who knows? Only the first page of the 3 page report was posted on the other website, and even then the image of that first page is no longer there. Perhaps a poster here has a copy in their files? Would love to see it again, however redacted it is.

    It is not clear to me what exactly this report represents, whether it is just a comparison of ore samples or something else. Hopefully someone has more information.
    Thanks, Deducer...I'll take a look at the other channel. I would like to second your request for anyone that has a copy of the report, to pls post if able. Take care, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    jim..sounds like a bunch of b.s. to me
    There was an actual report done, by Crismon and Nichols Assayers and Chemists, in Salt Lake City, Utah. Two, in fact- the first was an assay, the second report established the mineral content of the host rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PotBelly Jim View Post
    Thanks, Deducer...I'll take a look at the other channel. I would like to second your request for anyone that has a copy of the report, to pls post if able. Take care, Jim
    Found some more information:

    Page 1 of the analysis dealt with identifying and certifying the precise genetic makeup of the ore sample.
    Pages 2 and 3 deal with that ore sample analysis being identified for it's exact type of deposit, and compared to another known ore sample, and the findings of those two ores being compared to each other.

    Even though this ore analysis was done over 40 years ago, and while two of the principals in that analysis have passed on, two are still alive today and one of them is actively involved in the process of searching and verifying known sites and their relationship to this ore analysis. Because of that fact, pages 2 and 3 cannot be posted. The ore analysis was a private arrangement and was never used, or ever intended to be used, to claim or patent any mine, it was done purely for the information of the individual persons who were involved.

    While page 1 of the analysis is quite precise and specific, there are only 2 or 3 things on that page that are of real value to know. While many dutch enthusiasts believe the most important point of the LDM geology is decoding it's 'fingerprint", or genetic makeup, the most imortant point is the exact identification of the type of deposit the gold was formed as. Knowing the "fingerprint" is excellent information but without the knowledge of the exact type of deposit that formed that "fingerprint", you will be endlessly engaged in a spitting contest over minor elements that vary from one sample to the next, even samples taken from the exact same mine. Dr. Glover learned this to late in his ore analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    Found some more information:
    Hmmm...sounds like the owner/s of the report did not want it to become public.

    Edit: Disappointing, but understandable.

    Thanks, Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    There was an actual report done, by Crismon and Nichols Assayers and Chemists, in Salt Lake City, Utah. Two, in fact- the first was an assay, the second report established the mineral content of the host rock.
    do you have a copy available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    do you have a copy available?
    Read my post on the question of there being a copy, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azdave35 View Post
    all i'm saying is most mines past and present are operated to draw in investors..a few are legit but most weren't and aren't.. geological reports and assays are faked to sucker in high dollar money men...if you are going to hunt lost mines you should educate yourself on mining...save time and disappointment in the field...as far as ted cox goes...i never met the man so i can't vouch for him..but i tend to believe what he wrote.i wont go into it here why i do..if you choose not to that's your prerogative
    Too easy to go off on a tangent, should we start in on how the promotion of mining ventures is often fraudulent to some degree. So probably best to stay away from that. I didn't know T. Cox either, but he certainly may have believed every word he wrote and said was absolutely true. Those like him that do, all too often can be very convincing to the gullible, or at least, even if completely wrong in fact, can be taken as support for any confirmation bias their audience already has.
    I probably know as much as I need to, to recognize what the legend speaks of as the LDM if I happen to come across it. Other than grabbing a couple of samples, I have little interest in taking it any further than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deducer View Post
    Read my post on the question of there being a copy, here.
    Anyone try Greg ?
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    When was the picture posted? cordially, Gregory E. Davis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregory E. Davis View Post
    When was the picture posted? cordially, Gregory E. Davis
    Hi Greg:

    It may have been posted in the "Members Photo Albums" section of the old LDM site.
    Many of those have been lost during the transition to a new owner it seems.
    The source of the page is also mentioned here.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by somehiker View Post
    Hi Greg:

    It may have been posted in the "Members Photo Albums" section of the old LDM site.
    Many of those have been lost during the transition to a new owner it seems.
    The source of the page is also mentioned here.....

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    I don't believe Dr. Glover's ore analysis is the paper in question
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    OK....then what, where, and when ?
    Same ore samples ?
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    I went back through the download hard copies I made of Feldman's Forum and found the missing photos. Cordially, Gregory E. Davis

 

 
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