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  1. #221
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    May 2010
    texas
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    Mike,

    I would look at the whole picture, or mountain rather. If that same caliche is found on other cracks, I would say it was natural, if it's just found near that cave entrance, I would say it was man made.

    Homar P. Olivarez

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  3. #222
    ca
    May 2007
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    Quote Originally Posted by Oroblanco
    Ah caliche, caliche you say tomato, I say tomato.

    I think it would take a geologist to tell the difference between some of the natural caliche you find, and some of the lime based plasters and cements used by the advanced Indian peoples; the Aztecs and Mayas both burned lime for lime plaster and a form of cement, and there are ancient lime kilns (for burning lime to make quicklime, a critical ingredient for cement and plaster) located along the Salt river valley. These kilns are sometimes mistaken for primitive metal foundries, but the lack of any slag helps give them away. So there is evidence that local (Hohokam) may well have been making lime plaster or a type of cement, which after time and weathering would be very difficult to tell from natural caliche which is basically much the same thing only naturally formed. Just my amateur opinion, but I don't think we can tell for certain just by looking at photos. Please do continue....

    Oroblanco



    Roy:

    Some good info on Mayan construction within this series of lectures......http://www.newmedia.ufm.edu/gsm/inde...a_Civilization
    Regards:SH.

    Hell,you ain't never too old to look!

  4. #223
    pw
    Apr 2003
    New Mexico
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    Quote Originally Posted by somehiker
    The Romans found,and they were experts when it came to the formulation and use of concrete,that adding blood (possibly horse blood) to the mix .....
    A reliable source once informed me that the Apache's caliche mix was best when antelope blood was available. Tough, weather resistant, would bond small aggregate, but also of a low density with a 'hollow knock' as a giveaway.
    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    Marx

  5. #224
    us
    Sep 2011
    oahu hawaii
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    Hello blindbowman, wherever you received your communication about a house and cave and tunnels that are sacred is true on my treasure sites and are probably the same. On other sites. There is only one way into the santa Maria treasures.once you enter you go through a tunnel maze that goes from one mine to another.Down below these mines there is a large dugout square marking that is marked as a house
    Is really the entry of the cavern of the gold as noted on the latin heart.a monument of Mary is looking down at the holy cavern. All of this has been located and verified by this writer. Good luck on all of your treasure quests.

  6. #225

    Feb 2005
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    yes of course.... well then, that said, Is there a place I can get a list of clues to all the dutchman chicomoztoc peralto apache underground seashore bit? History of the tunnel? Sure. There is a lady that went miles with a crew into this system and found evedence of reptiles that walked upright and stood around 4 feet tall. True story. If you found a place that was used by ancient people and went forever into the dark abyss, how far in would you go? Would you camp? It would take days to get anywhere.

  7. #226
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    Sep 2011
    oahu hawaii
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    Hello saint jerome, the map of santa Maria tells you with markings of x,s where cashes are.if you search the latin hearts it overlaps and tells you locations and the amounts hidden..I bought the santa Maria map 15 years ago from an old prospector, I don't know how rare it is.but its one that overlaps with other treasure maps.good hunting.

  8. #227

    Feb 2005
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    Re: history of the cave /tunnel

    Thanks. That sound neat. I will have to find out what that map is all about if there is any in print.

  9. #228

    Jul 2012
    nc Ohio
    Tesoro Lobo
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    hey bowman,
    you should go back in your past lives, see if you can find an english teacher, and work on your spelling.

  10. #229
    natchitoches
    mr. blindbowman has been gone from here for about 2 years now.

  11. #230
    us
    Feb 2006
    New Hampshire - USA
    Fisher CZ21, Teknetics T2 & Minelab Sovereign GT
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    Quote Originally Posted by natchitoches View Post
    mr. blindbowman has been gone from here for about 2 years now.
    Actually it's only been about 9-10 months. He was posting quite a bit last fall and into November after the Rendezvous in the Superstitions where a few of us met him before and after he hiked in and looked more closely at his "site." It turned out to not be what he thought it was, but I give him credit for admitting he was mistaken after all his grandiose claims.
    "There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)

  12. #231
    ca
    Nov 2008
    Grande Prairie Alberta
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    I believe the blindbowman is on to something , but i think he is off by a few miles as to where the entrance to the cave system lies. I would suggest that any of you that are curious of this story should read this;
    Grand Canyon Caverns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    David.W.Muise.

  13. #232
    Charter Member

    Dec 2005
    Arizona
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    Bob,

    No matter what name you use or how you frame your comments, you will never escape stuff
    like this: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/lo...ve-tunnel.html

    Take care,

    Joe

 

 
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