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    trick of the heart

    so I noticed that the latin heart has a trick to it. the wording side and the numeral side are a mirror image. if you turn from wording side to numeral side the numerals get inverted. I printed out black and white copies and overlaid them. , when I reversed the numeral side it matches the front. if you simply turn over the heart to read the numerals, its upside down. In my opinion anyways. try it . let me know what you see. thanks. im not saying they are real or who made them . don't care to argue with everyone . just sharing what I noticed . sorry if everybody already knew that. im just starting out with this. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by dredgernaut View Post
    so I noticed that the latin heart has a trick to it. the wording side and the numeral side are a mirror image. if you turn from wording side to numeral side the numerals get inverted. I printed out black and white copies and overlaid them. , when I reversed the numeral side it matches the front. if you simply turn over the heart to read the numerals, its upside down. In my opinion anyways. try it . let me know what you see. thanks. im not saying they are real or who made them . don't care to argue with everyone . just sharing what I noticed . sorry if everybody already knew that. im just starting out with this. thanks
    You are right . The numerals should be read like the side with the words would been transparent , but keeping the course of the numerals , from the numeral side .
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    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





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    I think so. You could pretend the heart were transparent, the numeral matches the location , it coralates to the position, if you simply turn heart over the numeral is upended. Probly nothing new but I figured it out on my own.. thanks
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    Its an astrolabe
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    hi alan. are your saying those coded numbers are coordinates. I thought quantities maybe. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dredgernaut View Post
    hi alan. are your saying those coded numbers are coordinates. I thought quantities maybe. thanks
    No, I think they represent a part of an astrolabe, the part that has stars and constellations, kind of like a star chart called the plate.
    this chart does not need to be accurate as compared to any other, it only needs to show correct reationships, this unfortunatly is of little help as you would need to know those relationships.
    Last edited by alan m; Jan 24, 2019 at 09:24 AM.
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ID:	1674002These are the parts of an astrolabe, the only part that needs to be accurate for use as it was intended is the outer ring, the plate is just for convinient reference of stars, what month and what time they are visable.
    if the intent of the astrolabe was to show special relationships, the plate and or the rete could be customized for that purpose.
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    as to the stones themselves.I understand that a lot of people believe the stone maps are fakes. made with modern tools. I was thinking that maybe they were made by a more recent tool. however after research I found that dental drills have been around a long time. pedal powered dental drills have been in use since 1871, pneumatic ones since 1868. the first electric dental drill was patented in 1877. that's a very old recent tool.
    pedal powered drill could be taken anywhere. used anywhere. IMO. it could have been used like a modern day Dremel tool. specially in soft stone. so even if they were made with tools . they could have been old tools..
    does anybody know what type of tools tumlinson used to do his carvings. thanks

    not to mention . if the Spanish were involved . they understood tools . very well. try building a ship with out tools. specially drill like auger tools for mortise and tenon type building.
    just my thoughts . sorry if I am stirring a dead fire.
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    There is not any heart shape in the fields . Someone can " read and recognize " the Latin heart , only if he/she will find the church's ruin ( ECCLESIA in the Latin stone map ) . All the clues ( words on the Latin stone heart ) are in an approximative small region .
    Last edited by markmar; Jan 27, 2019 at 02:31 PM.
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    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





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    Hello. Some of the crazy things I see. . Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by markmar View Post
    There is not any heart shape in the fields . Someone can " read and recognize " the Latin heart , only if he/she will find the church's ruin ( ECCLESIA in the Latin stone map ) . All the clues ( words on the Latin stone heart ) are in an approximative small region .
    Markmar

    The map clearly say's Follow the Map follow the Heart ❤️
    Now it doesn't get any clearer then that.

    Babymick1
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Markmar

    The map clearly say's Follow the Map follow the Heart ❤️
    Now it doesn't get any clearer then that.

    Babymick1
    The right translation is : " Search for the map " and " Search for the heart " .
    The map's stone heart .
    Last edited by markmar; Jan 28, 2019 at 11:46 AM.
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    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





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    Markmar

    Why would you search for the map, it's in your hand.

    You can't translate to say what you want. It's written in Stone.

    babymick1
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrmickel1 View Post
    Markmar

    Why would you search for the map, it's in your hand.

    You can't translate to say what you want. It's written in Stone.

    babymick1
    BM,

    Unless the map you must find is somewhere in the mountains, pointed out by the map you hold in your hands.

    Take care,

    Joe
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    "There is an ancient proverb that says a man can never forgive you for a wrong he has done you." From a wise friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusjumper View Post
    BM,

    Unless the map you must find is somewhere in the mountains, pointed out by the map you hold in your hands.

    Take care,

    Joe
    Joe

    In the priest stone map is depicted the heart "4" beside the lower dot in the circle , and also shows how the trail ( the Cross tablet ) runs between the lower dot in the circle and the upper dot in the circle .
    So , to find the heart , someone has to find the horse landmark and after to find the lower dot in the circle . For this purpose is the horse on the other side of the map .
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    Marius

    If your true to your heart, you will never go wrong. The truth is the truth, no matter how you look at it, and in every treasure story and legend there is a grain of truth. It's up to your spirit and heart to know the difference. NP





 

 
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