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  1. #1
    us
    Nov 2010
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    Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    To start Gonzales was the son of Manuel Peralta. Now Daddy Peralta gave young Gonzales a map to a mine he called canyon Fresco ,before he past on. Now Charles M. Clark, outfitted Gonzales for the expedition, for some future gold,which he did recieve. and showed his map to him,with the exception of one part.Following the map Gonzales found the 2 old arrastres ,and then human bones,nearby the tumbled remains of a old camp,and behind the tumbled remains piles of gold shineing through rotted hide sacks from Pedros mines back in the Superstitions. Could Canon Fresco also be the Dutchmans stash,as Gonzales only took enough to support his lifestyle. I think so.

  2. #2
    bb
    Jul 2011
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Hello
    I would like to see some other lines of relation to your story, which is very good by the way,
    When I researched storms account of the Mexican mine I had some serious trouble determining which Gonzales was related to which Peralta.
    I did find out that these two families have a common history streatching way back and that their respected mining claims were granted to each by the king of Spain, however their Haciendas are/were hundreds of miles apart.
    Best regards
    Alan

  3. #3
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Altough I do have more vital location imformation, I will not post it ,it would take away all the fun involved in the search.

  4. #4
    bb
    Jul 2011
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    I would never ask for specific location information, that would be disrespectful
    What I meant was information on the specific relationship between Gonzales and Peralta.
    How do you know that the Gonzales in Barry Storms account is the same one related to Peralta, and if this Peralta is associated with the Superstitions?
    Best Regards
    Alan

  5. #5
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    I only know this through Barry Storms writeing , based on research he himself did. His timelines and dates fall in place. Howeever believe what you will,as he is no longer around to question.

  6. #6
    Charter Member

    Aug 2007
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by alan m
    Hello
    I would like to see some other lines of relation to your story, which is very good by the way,
    When I researched storms account of the Mexican mine I had some serious trouble determining which Gonzales was related to which Peralta.
    I did find out that these two families have a common history streatching way back and that their respected mining claims were granted to each by the king of Spain, however their Haciendas are/were hundreds of miles apart.
    Best regards
    Alan
    from the book the killer mts by Curt Gentry...

    page 96

    where DR Ruth gets the map at the home of Gonzales's cousin ,juan Peralta

    on page 101

    he say' the Peralta map!

    so magill calls the map a peralta map,...

    another sorce in the killer mts by curt gentry on page 106...

    "the Peralta map obtained from the Gonzales."

    it may be turned around but still a relationship between the Gonzales and the Peralta..

  7. #7
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    The year 1846, Don miguel Peralta{the Don"s}, sent his 3 sons to the Supers,Ramon, Pedro, and Manuel,{Pedro,the master map maker}to look for gold and bring it back.Gonzales is{Ramon Peralta y Gonzales.}
    Gonzales father was Manuel Peralta.The Peraltas were from Sonora and they owned silver mines there.The year 1847 on the so called Peralta stones ,could very well been engraved and put on by Pedro himself. Gonzales made a 2nd trip to the Supers in 1930 and met a
    Roy Bradford. At a certain crossing{secret} in the Supers,Bradford encountered a massive Sugaro that had 17 stones embeded high up in it. Could this represent 17 seperate mines ?,could be Pedros handiwork again. Ther you have it a Free short synopis of the famous traveling miners the Peraltas.

  8. #8
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Gad BB, for a journey of 3 months how many dots would be needed?

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  9. #9
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    BB,I dont completely understand your theory so I cant disagree with it.
    The numbers 1847 could have lots of differant endings. It also is a possibility the dots or indents could represent the number of mines in a specific geological area.

  10. #10
    Charter Member

    Aug 2007
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    they could stand for the number of bolts in the space shutles main hatch too...

  11. #11
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Common sense tells me the space shuttle is not a possibilty, however the logic is sound.

  12. #12
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Touche' oldergoate heheheh. Space warp?

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  13. #13
    bb
    Jul 2011
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Just a note for your information,
    Neither Glenn Magill nor Barry Storm have a record of 100% honesty in thier revelations.
    The Killer Mountains has some missinformation which was deliberate.
    Thundergods Gold has correct information but presented in a way that leads one to come to an incorrect conclusion.
    As for those dutch hunters who have intended to misslead the rest of us, these two guys make the list
    Alan

  14. #14
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Alan your opinon is noted and duly disagreed by me were Storms research is concerned. You asked for imformation,I gave it to you,yet you can not prove it is inconclusive. I suggest your shoes are size {F}for flake.

  15. #15
    bb
    Jul 2011
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Oldergoate
    Sorry to urinate on your parade
    It is you who are the flake as in being unable to accept any other opinion but your own without calling people names, childish to say the least
    I refuse to have a battle of wits with someone who is as unarmed as yourself
    Save it for the grandkids

  16. #16
    bb
    Jul 2011
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    What no response
    It must be past your bedtime

  17. #17
    us
    Nov 2010
    94

    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Alan in your paticular case I would venture to say unfortunatly for this Earth and the Future of It Ignorance is Bliss.

  18. #18
    mx
    Nov 2004
    Alamos,Sonora,Mexico
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Gentlemen; relax, we need both of your opinions and thoughts since no-one has yet found it, so who is more correct?

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

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    us
    May 2010
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp
    Gentlemen; relax, we need both of your opinions and thoughts since no-one has yet found it, so who is more correct?

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    Is that not the same as saying "shake hands and come out fighting"? Hmmmmm

    Homar

  20. #20
    Charter Member

    Dec 2005
    Arizona
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    Re: Gonzales Mexican mine,notes from Barry Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by coazon de oro
    Quote Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp
    Gentlemen; relax, we need both of your opinions and thoughts since no-one has yet found it, so who is more correct?

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    Is that not the same as saying "shake hands and come out fighting"? Hmmmmm

    Homar
    Homar,

    I would say it's much more like saying shake hands and come out debating/thinking.

    Take care,

    Joe

 

 
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