Makro kruzer/multi kruzer battery wiring question
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    Stefan

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    Makro kruzer/multi kruzer battery wiring question

    Here's the question....

    Whether by cycles, damage, or just wearing out in any way... If the internal battery in the kruzer is no longer functioning (not just needing a recharge) will the machine still be able to function with the AA battery pod? Is it wired in the middle so if it bites the dust it interrupts the circuit and the machine won't even function with the battery pod?
    -Stefan

    Makro--
    Racer 2 - 7x11 DD, 5.5x10DD, 5" DD, 7" concentric

    Nokta--
    Fors Relic - 7x11 DD, 5.5x10 DD, 5.5x10 Concentric, 5" DD

    Tesoro--
    --Mojave w/ 7" new concentric
    --Bandido II Micromax
    --Outlaw- 3 coil pack
    --Deleon w/Troy super 7
    --Cutlass Micromax 8" donut
    --Vaquero 9x8
    --Cibola w/ GB and toggle all metal mod 9x8
    --Compadre 8"
    --Compadre 5.75"

    Delta coils: 11x8DD, 5.75 Con, 10" elliptical


    Tools: Garrett Carrot, Sampson shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

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    Dec 2012
    Twin Tiers NY
    XP Deus X2, CTX 3030, E Trac, T2, AT Pro, AKA Sorex, Makro Kruzer, Minelab GP3500, Nokta Impact
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    Just spoke to makro and they stated that even if the internal battery were to go dead or become faulty, the external battery Pod will still work as it disconnects the internal batteries circuit and replaces it with the external pack.

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    Stefan

    Jul 2016
    S.E. Michigan
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    Asked in another forum as well.

    So I know that the internal battery can also be charged in the field with a battery bank like for your cell phone. Is that done in a different connection than the pod is?
    If they are the same connection method then it stands to reason that the battery is still included in the circuit when hooked up otherwise it wouldn't be able to be charged by said external battery bank (like for cell phone)
    Thank you for all the info and any more anyone can offer!!
    -Stefan

    Makro--
    Racer 2 - 7x11 DD, 5.5x10DD, 5" DD, 7" concentric

    Nokta--
    Fors Relic - 7x11 DD, 5.5x10 DD, 5.5x10 Concentric, 5" DD

    Tesoro--
    --Mojave w/ 7" new concentric
    --Bandido II Micromax
    --Outlaw- 3 coil pack
    --Deleon w/Troy super 7
    --Cutlass Micromax 8" donut
    --Vaquero 9x8
    --Cibola w/ GB and toggle all metal mod 9x8
    --Compadre 8"
    --Compadre 5.75"

    Delta coils: 11x8DD, 5.75 Con, 10" elliptical


    Tools: Garrett Carrot, Sampson shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

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    us
    Dec 2012
    Twin Tiers NY
    XP Deus X2, CTX 3030, E Trac, T2, AT Pro, AKA Sorex, Makro Kruzer, Minelab GP3500, Nokta Impact
    553
    462 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    The external battery pod plugs into the same port as you would use to charge the internal battery but as explained to me this does circumvent the internal battery when the pod is plugged in.
    Case in point, when I first received my unit I assumed the internal battery would not be charged. Therefore I loaded some AA batteries into the external pod and hooked that up to the detector. Upon turning on the detector I received the "Lo" message on the screen meaning the battery was low. and the detector would do nothing but display this message. I then detached the external battery pod and turned on the detector. It fired right up and read full charge on the internal battery. It ends up that I measured the voltage of the AA batteries I had in the pack (just 4 batteries I had lying around) and come to find out that 3 of the 4 batteries were no good.
    So even though the internal battery was fully charged the machine would not operate off it while the external battery pod as hooked up. It is a multi pin connector so there is the possibility that plugging in the external pod interrupts the internal battery circuit.

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    Stefan

    Jul 2016
    S.E. Michigan
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    450 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Oh ok. Cool.
    Maybe the circuitry inside determines if what you're looking into it is intended to charge the device or run it... Who knows. Probably goes by amperage going in. Battery banks usually try and push 1-2 amps in which may signal to the machine it's being charged while the pod probably delivers a lower amperage more intended to run the machine.

    Like I said earlier, I'm not a fan of internal cells that the end user can't replace and just need to know that if the battery fails after warranty that I don't have to pay $30 to ship it in and $50-$100 for parts and labor to fix.

    I kind of wish they went the other way with it. Or maybe a removable battery like a walkie talkies and the the option to use the AA pod.

    In this day and age, even with the best manufacturers, things fail. I'd prefer for the simple things like batteries be something I don't have to send in for repair.

    I don't doubt the cell inside will last for years. But past 2 is where you're on your own.

    Thanks for all the info!!! Beautiful looking machine and he videos look very promising machine.
    The other companies better watch out!!
    -Stefan

    Makro--
    Racer 2 - 7x11 DD, 5.5x10DD, 5" DD, 7" concentric

    Nokta--
    Fors Relic - 7x11 DD, 5.5x10 DD, 5.5x10 Concentric, 5" DD

    Tesoro--
    --Mojave w/ 7" new concentric
    --Bandido II Micromax
    --Outlaw- 3 coil pack
    --Deleon w/Troy super 7
    --Cutlass Micromax 8" donut
    --Vaquero 9x8
    --Cibola w/ GB and toggle all metal mod 9x8
    --Compadre 8"
    --Compadre 5.75"

    Delta coils: 11x8DD, 5.75 Con, 10" elliptical


    Tools: Garrett Carrot, Sampson shovel, Killer B Wasps, my bare hands

 

 

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