One Tester's Perspective - Fit and Finish and Ergo of Multi Kruzer

[tnsharpshooter]

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Keith Southern Wrote:
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> I'll hold off on any Performance info till the fin
> alized version is completed.
>
> Yet I can say if you wanted a waterproof lightweig
> ht Impact then this is the ticket.
>
> And that leads to things I will talk about.
>
> Fit and Finish is Par Excellence...Not really sure
> where you can get this kind of QUALITY attention t
> o detail..Other manufacturers should take note of
> the EXCELLENT build of the unit...Not even sure th
> eres a machine made or been made that has the rugg
> edness and Finish the Multi Kruzer has. maybe the
> CTX housing is close..but for some reason the Kruz
> er just has a more polished fit..
>
> Housing is enveloped in a rubberized shock proof t
> ype housing think permanent Otter Box phone cover
> feel wrapping the housing for bumps and scrapes.Ho
> using has series of stainless screws holding the u
> nit together around the edge of the housing...(Lik
> e a CTX uses).Huge bright LCD screen and rubberiz
> ed buttons...Solid thick comfortable hand grip for
> a lifetime of use..Armrest superb and unbreakable
> type flex material..its high on the sides and in a
> U-Shape for a snug feel..This is a S-Pole like Rac
> ers have with stronger cam locks and carbon fiber
> lower shaft for no flex in water..Machine feels re
> ally light and has on board rechargeable batteries
> that so far has lasted me about 15 hours or so on
> a charge( will be less on low freq)..There's also
> a OPTIONAL emergency battery pod that in my opinio
> n is well thought out..4 AAs that are slid into a
> flashlight type tube that then connects to charge
> port on back of housing using waterproof fitting's
> ...The bottom of the armrest is unique in that it
> has a slot under it that the battery pod can fit i
> n and there's a clamping device with two thumb scr
> ews to lock it into place and that clamp device ha
> s stand built into it to still allow for a stand..
> if you don't use the pod the regular armrest also
> has built in stand..The charging port is also wher
> e the optional waterproof headphones screw in sinc
> e its a multi pin connector..So if using the emerg
> ency charger the battery pod will screw into the j
> ack via cable and then on the battery pod there's
> a jack for the headphones to connect from under el
> bow..Yet if you charge before a hunt I'm sure you'
> ll give out before the detector..But its a Plus to
> have a emergency option..
>
> The Faceplate buttons are very tactile and feel s
> olid and seem very rugged not a thin membrane but
> thick and surely will last for years..There's no
> flashlight on this model but it does have the vibr
> ation sensor..
>
> The coil is epoxy filled and same style as Impact
> Stock coil.
>
> The coil cable and Headphone cable also have as a
> preventive measure once screwed on a neoprene type
> rubber boot that slides over connectors to keep sa
> nd and dirt out of the fittings and threads..
>
> Everything is contained inside the housing and for
> the all weather hunter and surely the water guys w
> ho want Impact/Racer performance in those environs
> will appreciate the unit..I know when I had my Rac
> ers in the ocean waves I couldn't get out to far a
> s I was scared of a rogue splash Yet was impressed
> with the Racers ability to handle Salt water and s
> till see smaller conductors in the gulf unlike mos
> t VLFS it worked above average in the SaltI even m
> anaged a small child's 14Kt gold ring in the surf.
> ..The Kruzer for me then would of been a welcome
> step..and Here it is now..Yet now with added featu
> res to make it hotter on gold with the higher freq
> ..And that reminds me the switching of freqs has n
> o lag like on the Impact it just jumps to the next
> freq instantly..Don't even hear the relay clicking
> like on the Impact...
>
> I've asked for some tweaks and others maybe too? s
> o I'll hold off on final performance thoughts...Y
> ET I will say it's as Good as a Impact for dissect
> ing and depth..Mode to mode.
>
> Bottom line is if you want a Waterproof machine wi
> th the Mak/Nok Proven in field performance you've
> already seen on land then this is one WELL built T
> OUGH machine...Should set a bar for build quality.
> ..Too bad all of our expensive electronic detector
> s aren't built for environments we put them in.
>
> To me RIGHT NOW I can grab the Multi Kruzer and f
> eel like if I'm leaving the Impact or Racer at hom
> e I'm not losing any performance...and I like the
> way it feels, the best feel of the whole line.LOVE
> THE ARMREST FINALLY!!!!..and I like the peace of m
> ind of no dust/rain/Dirt and I can hit the beach m
> aybe once or twice the year...and I get unmasking
> everywhere.
>
> Ill report more on the performance as time goes on
> ..
>
> Keith

 

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[littlehugger]

I started into metal detecting over 50 years ago, when my brother put together a Radio Shack model. It did not work very well.
Due to marriage, kids and health problems, I have been out of the hobby for years. It seems things have changed a lot. Detectors have really advanced. Water proofing is becoming more common, although you would consider it a no-brainer.
It seems there are more companies too. High end and low end.
SO, the point of my post is aimed at Keith. All of his detectors seem to be Makro. Why?
I have owned various high end detectors. Garretts Grand Master Hunter CXIII, Spectrum XLT, Minelabs too. I currently have Fishers. A CZ 70, a 1280 Aquanaut and a M66. Also, a Garrett GTAx 550.
How does Makro stack up against the others?
I like useful features, but it can be misleading. You can pay a lot for whiz bang features and still get bad performance.
Why detectors do you guys rely? Why? What manufacturer do you prefer, and why? I see tons of low cost Chinese detectors, are they any good?

 

[bzepol8]

I started into metal detecting over 50 years ago, when my brother put together a Radio Shack model. It did not work very well.
Due to marriage, kids and health problems, I have been out of the hobby for years. It seems things have changed a lot. Detectors have really advanced. Water proofing is becoming more common, although you would consider it a no-brainer.
It seems there are more companies too. High end and low end.
SO, the point of my post is aimed at Keith. All of his detectors seem to be Makro. Why?
I have owned various high end detectors. Garretts Grand Master Hunter CXIII, Spectrum XLT, Minelabs too. I currently have Fishers. A CZ 70, a 1280 Aquanaut and a M66. Also, a Garrett GTAx 550.
How does Makro stack up against the others?
I like useful features, but it can be misleading. You can pay a lot for whiz bang features and still get bad performance.
Why detectors do you guys rely? Why? What manufacturer do you prefer, and why? I see tons of low cost Chinese detectors, are they any good?

Low cost Chinese detectors are no good because........they are low cost Chinese detectors. You usually get what you pay for. hunt with your Minelab.

 

[Ammoman]

I have had a few detectors over the years. The build quality of Nokta/ Makro is refreshing. My son has the Garrett AT pro and it feels like junk. I'm not saying it performs like junk because it does not. But, Garrett needs to do a better job at building a housing that is AT worthy.

 

[Dr. Witty]

Like Ammoman said, the build quality of the Makro/Nokta line is fantastic. The AT Pro is a nice machine, but the build quality and aesthetics are just way behind the curve. I still cant figure out the butt ugly AT MAX and why they wouldn't release a better looking or at least more balanced detector. I just sold my AT Pro to justify the Kruzer purchase. The AT Pro gave me terrible tennis elbow, and I had to send it out for repair after a water hunt, that was ok, it was under warranty and repair was done fast, but to me you shouldn't have to send back a water detector after 1 year of use because it had water damage! The Makro Racer 2 and Kruzer are beautiful well balanced, well built, well priced, grab and go detectors, but they also have a bunch of features that let you customize tone break and sound as well as different search modes for different types of hunting, and they are deep seeking detectors. Now that the Racer 2 is priced at $499.00, there's a better reason to check it out. If that weren't enough the service after sale is second to none.

P.S. The only Whiz Bang feature i didn't use on my Makro Racer 2 was the flashlight, but that was done away with on the Kruzer.

 

[mindcrime1988]

I agree with y'all on the AT Pro. Over the years it has been an excellent machine for me in terms of finding relics & coins. I have nothing bad to say about that part because it has more than made me happy countless times. However since I have owned my AT Pro since its inception, the arm cuff has broken 4 times if I remember right. Garrett always sent me a new one free of charge and they finally beefed it up a couple years ago but it was still a hassle. Then a while back the main housing pegs broke off where it secures to the stem. I'm thinking this happened due to fatigue over the years and the plastic became somewhat brittle. I ended up using longer screws and paid close attention to make sure they did not screw up into the housing where it could damage the chip board or battery compartment.

Once again I cannot speak badly about the AT Pro because it definitely made me happy countless times but I am seriously considering this new Multi Kruzer. I have seen a few videos on it and the recovery speed is excellent. Folks speak about how well it is made and easy to swing over several hours. Plus being waterproof is a huge plus for me since I hunt in creeks, rivers and lakes. I would love to hear anymore likes or dislikes about the Kruzer before I make the purchase though. Thanks in advance.