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  1. #1
    fr
    Geronimo_

    Oct 2013
    Aquitaine
    Excal2
    27
    24 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Cry Makro Multi Kruzer settings. HELP

    Hello

    I own the Multi, and went out only 1 time.

    The conception is so different from the Equinox. On the MMK, you can select from 2 tones/3 tones/ 4 tones/ beach and some others, and change a lot of things but, you are not sure what to chose from 2/3/4 tones and what to change.
    What is the best for the pasture, forest, fresh labor etc... it's not intuitive at all ............ On Equinox, YOU KNOW, on Kruzer, YOU DON'T know what to select from. Ok, you have to work on it, but I would have prefered some easy and understandable menu. Not quite sure I will keep it. Unless I get from Dilek or experimented guy some usefull settings like the one I get on :

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/576594179384468/

    If you have good setting, you can post it on this fb group. As : Forest1 Forest 2 / Labor1 Labor2, Fresh labor / Pasture1 Pasture2 / Lake1 Lake2 / Park1 Park2 etc
    I think it's what is missing for the KRUZER to become a real challenger against the Equinox. Minelab was a lot more clever.....

    Thanks

    Geronimo
    Last edited by Geronimo_; Apr 21, 2018 at 05:51 AM.

  2. #2
    de
    Apr 2016
    Makro Multi Kruzer / Fisher F11 with Nel Tornado coil
    74
    139 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    from the manual

    The manual says:

    Modes
    • 2-tone: good for relic hunting, clean sites
    • 3-tone: coin hunting in trashy sites, e.g. parks
    • 4-tone: coin hunting in low or medium mineralization
    • beach mode: salty wet sand beach or high mineralization
    • deep mode: relic hunting, slower swing

    Frequencies
    • 5 kHz: relicts, large objects or small targets in non-mineralized ground without iron trash
    • 14 kHz: small coins or coins in medium or highly mineralized ground
    • 19 kHz: small coins, jewelry, small targets in iron trash


    So it depends on ground conditions and what you want to hunt, not which type of site you have in general.

  3. #3
    fr
    Geronimo_

    Oct 2013
    Aquitaine
    Excal2
    27
    24 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Hello Jacza

    Yes, it's what you can find in the manual.

    But, why did they not use a menu to let me choose the tone number, and why did they have decided for me that 2 tones is relic.....
    (I know, I can change everything, and save it, but it's a strange consideration)

    Anyway, has someone some real setting, like those ones ?

    Pasture :
    Deep mode
    khz 14
    gain 94
    disc 03
    notch 04
    fe vol n2
    t break 07
    tone, fe 15, gold/non fe 43
    isat 01
    vibrate 01

    Beach :
    Beach mode
    khz 14
    gain 90
    disc 09
    notch 10
    fe vol 05
    t break 10
    tone, fe 15, gold/non fe 43
    isat 01
    vibrate 01

    Labors :
    3 tone mode
    khz 19
    gain 89
    disc 00
    notch 01
    fe vol n2
    t break 05
    tone, fe 15 gold/non fe 50
    isat 00
    vibrate 00

    Do not try to make sone funny one

  4. #4
    us
    Jan 2015
    Upstate NY
    Makro Racer 2 and Makro Kruzer Garrett Carrot pro-pointer AT
    475
    684 times
    Metal Detecting
    You're just going to have to take it out more than once and experiment with the settings yourself. As for me when I took mine out it was a sensory overload for any mode but 3 tone. So I experimented. First thing you should do is go to the web site and update the firmware. That will decrease the chatter. Second thing is to try 2 tone mode and decrease the gain to around 65-70 or until you can find a setting you can work with. You may still have some chatter but when you hit on a good signal there will be no doubt. As for Discrimination, in Europe you have your small hammered coins so I'd keep the discrimination at around 10 or less. Don't be concerned too much with frequency for now, just get used to what the Kruzer is telling you in 14k. For trashy sites you will do really well in 3 tone with the gain at 89. Bumping the gain up even 1 increment will increase your depth greatly but will slow down recovery speed. So in the trashy sites I keep it in 3 tone at 89 and switch to 2 tone for a second opinion on the iffy's. I don't use 4 tone or Deep at all, at least not yet. Someone just posted on the Facebook Multi Kruzer group this setting:
    3 tone
    Gain 95
    Freq. 19k
    He said that this setting will give you 3 inches deeper than stock 3 tone, and that there is no depth difference in this setting than if you were running 2, 4 or even deep mode. I have yet to try it out but it sounds interesting especially given the 3 tone's separation abilities.
    Check out this Multi Kruzer group
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/360971111038422/
    There's a ton of great information on this one, but getting out and experiencing the machine for yourself will be the best way to learn it and will be the most rewarding as well. Good luck and don't give up on the Kruzer.
    Last edited by Dr. Witty; Apr 25, 2018 at 09:11 AM.

  5. #5
    us
    Oct 2015
    NC
    Nokta Impact, Tesoro Compadre, Nokta Pin pointer.
    1,882
    4293 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Geronimo_ View Post
    it's not intuitive at all ............ On Equinox, YOU KNOW, on Kruzer, YOU DON'T know what to select from. Ok, you have to work on it, but I would have prefered some easy and understandable menu. Not quite sure I will keep it.
    Based on this comment, i suspect you purchased this machine thinking it was the same as the Equinox. Sorry, two very different machines with different concepts. I suggest you read the manual and everything will be clear.
    Think of it this way, A ford Escape has the windshield wipers on the left side of the steering column where as the Toyota Corolla has it on the right. They both have windshield wipers and its not intuitive. If your used to driving a ford and you purchase a Corolla, you need to be willing to learn the differences.
    Dig till you drop!

  6. #6
    fr
    Geronimo_

    Oct 2013
    Aquitaine
    Excal2
    27
    24 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Thanks for your answers.
    Ok, I will work on it, untill I master the beast.

  7. #7

    Jun 2013
    1

    Multi Kruzer settings.

    What does LABORS mean when adjusting the Settings?

    QUOTE=Geronimo_;5788779]Hello Jacza

    Yes, it's what you can find in the manual.

    But, why did they not use a menu to let me choose the tone number, and why did they have decided for me that 2 tones is relic.....
    (I know, I can change everything, and save it, but it's a strange consideration)

    Anyway, has someone some real setting, like those ones ?

    Pasture :
    Deep mode
    khz 14
    gain 94
    disc 03
    notch 04
    fe vol n2
    t break 07
    tone, fe 15, gold/non fe 43
    isat 01
    vibrate 01

    Beach :
    Beach mode
    khz 14
    gain 90
    disc 09
    notch 10
    fe vol 05
    t break 10
    tone, fe 15, gold/non fe 43
    isat 01
    vibrate 01

    Labors :
    3 tone mode
    khz 19
    gain 89
    disc 00
    notch 01
    fe vol n2
    t break 05
    tone, fe 15 gold/non fe 50
    isat 00
    vibrate 00

    Do not try to make sone funny one [/QUOTE]

  8. #8
    us
    Jan 2015
    Upstate NY
    Makro Racer 2 and Makro Kruzer Garrett Carrot pro-pointer AT
    475
    684 times
    Metal Detecting
    Labors is an English term, like Across the Pond English, and I still don't know what it refers to since I'm in the US. Also since your profile doesn't show me where you're from I can only assume you're from this side of the pond as well. However; since they are using 3 tone, at 89 gain I'd guess they are referring to playgrounds and parks.
    Last edited by Dr. Witty; May 08, 2019 at 09:31 AM.

 

 

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