Bottle Pit Marble I.D. please

[cryptic]

Hi everyone, been a little slow in the marble section lately so thought I would share a few marbles I have found. I'm slowly learning to identify marbles but there are always some that are a mystery to me. These come from a bottle pit i would have to guess is from 1890-1930 maybe 40's.. Most are damaged but these ones cleaned up ok. Could someone point me in the right way to identify the makers? Thanks!

[wheelerite]

the first and last marbles look like Christiansen striped transparent,the second possibly akro,then master,then christiansen blue moon,the fifth marble needs more pictures to tell,but this is just a guess, road dog or duffy should be able to say for sure. They are the real masters on this forum.
ksmith

[cryptic]

A few more shots, opposite side of marbles.

[duffytrash]

1....wheelrite nailed this un...in mint condition a real pricey marble ...in that condition still collectible but with less value...2...peltier....3...akro...the next 3 look to be vitro...is the light blue showin a swirl action with a 9??/...nice job on the ids wheelrite...nice marbles .....

[wheelerite]

thanks duffy, I sure screwed the rest up though
ksmith

[cryptic]

Thank you wheelerite and duffytrash, I can see the resemblance to the makers now. Duffy, is there any chance you could post a picture of the #9 swirl? I hear about this identification mark quite a bit from reading the forum but have yet to see what it looks like. The Christiansen striped transparent marbles sure are very pricey are they rare? I'm sure I have more of them around here that look like the same type.

[Road Dog]

#1 doesn't look CAC. There appears to be a good size gap at the seams. Nice one though ,it's not American.

[cryptic]

Would more pictures of this marble help or is it going to be too hard to identify because of too many possibilities?

[Road Dog]

Where the banding meets there should be no gap. The bands should touch together.Show a pic of both seams. I'm pretty sure (98% German) on this one. I like that Clear Slag looking (last pic)marble too.

[cryptic]

The first picture shows the seam running horizontally very well. No mistaking it. The second picture, the other side of the marble, I can not find a seam?

[Road Dog]

The other seam is in the clear area. Since the banding does not meet the seam is invisible. All the German ones I have seen are like this.

[duffytrash]

ill agree with the dog on the german...heres a link to see some 9 swirls....
http://www.joemarbles.com/1Marble%20...%20Son%201.htm

[cryptic]

Thanks everyone for the help. If I come across any more marbles I will be sure to post and share them with you all.