Help me out here with these?

[EternalXC]

Ok I posted these marbles in my own thread yesterday and two different guys, one said they are cat's eye shooter and the other said they can be Wire pull marbles, so can you ppl help me identify what they are actually are and how old can they be?

 

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[duffytrash]

those dont look to be wire pulls to me...they look more like ancortes vitro horseshoe type cateyes....