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Feb 25, 2009, 06:12 PM
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QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
After you lay in a supply of grass, moss, punk or sawdust make a teepee
of sticks and limbs with an open door. Next take an old shredded SOS
pad and touch it across both posts of a rectangular 9 volt battery. Put the
flaming steel under your teepee and toss in the easily flammable stuff and away you go. siegfried schlagrule
"We have done so much; for so many; for so long; with so little; that pretty soon we'll be able to do anything; with nothing at all."
my unit motto - 138th Aviation Company - 224th Aviation Battalion - Phu Bai, I Corps, Republic of Vietnam - 1972
Siegfried Schlagrule
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Feb 25, 2009, 06:19 PM
#2
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
How may times have I told you Nickyyyyyyyyyy...don't play with batteries and sos pads...
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Mar 04, 2009, 06:13 PM
#3
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
used to do that trick with the kids when we were camping in S. NJ.
would use some fine steel wool, and attach some phone wire to it about an inch apart.
then cover it with some light wood shavings, then bigger sticks and build it up all the
way to the full logs. You couldn't have a fire in the fire ring until after 5:00 pm in those days
so at 5:00 pm, we would get out a 9 volt and attach it to the ends of the phone wire coming
out of the pile of wood, a little bit later, you would see the first wafts of smoke coming up out
of the pile. No matches, no lighter fluid, it seemed like magic
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Apr 07, 2009, 01:02 AM
#4
 Likely, B.C.
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
I'd rather pack a lighter than a 9v battery (but I guess every MD'er has one of those). The three best (non-wood) kindling sources: a wad of dryer lint, a tampon or a bag of 'cheezies'.
"It's a quest. It's a quest for fun, I'm gonna have fun and you're gonna have fun, we're all gonna have so much #!@*^& fun we'll need plastic surgery to remove our %$#@ smiles!" - Clark Griswold, National Lampoon's 'Family Vacation'.
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Apr 07, 2009, 05:52 AM
#5
 "WP"
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
Durritos & Fritos are both highly flammable as well!!!
It's the cooking oil they're cooked in.
I always freak my friends out around a dying fire by throwing a few in, then asking them why we're eating these things? 
Bran <><
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Rom. 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
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Apr 13, 2009, 12:11 AM
#6
 Your Only One Swing Away From Discovery
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
 Originally Posted by Siegfried Schlagrule
After you lay in a supply of grass, moss, punk or sawdust make a teepee
of sticks and limbs with an open door. Next take an old shredded SOS
pad and touch it across both posts of a rectangular 9 volt battery. Put the
flaming steel under your teepee and toss in the easily flammable stuff and away you go. siegfried schlagrule
I carry 0000 steel wool in my survival kit this does work well
Your Discovery Has History Count On It
Enjoy the dig, treasure the time
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Jul 07, 2009, 10:48 PM
#7
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
Most any untreated steel wool will work, (except maybe stainless), even with just a couple of "C" or "D" cell batteries. Pine needles are great for getting a fire going too. I always carry a lighter, but they do run out at the worst times. I also carry one of those cheap plastic magnifying glasses that folds into a vinyl case, (they scratch easy, but still work).
There is a good page on other fire starting methods here:
http://www.campfiredude.com/fire-starters.shtml
I like the Vaseline and cotton balls idea. 
F.
Quote of Sir Joshua Reynolds': "There is no expedient, to which a man will not resort; to avoid the real labor, of thinking."
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Jul 07, 2009, 11:01 PM
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Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
I use a magnesium metal match,
scrape a pile off of the magnesium into a small pile and set a cotton ball or some fluff off of a cattail top onto the pile so that it is half covered, then use the striker on the other side with the blade of your pocket knife to throw a spark into the pile.
poof, nice hot start.
don't have to worry if the thing gets wet either.
Have carried one for 30 years.
They cost about $8 at wally world.
"Everybody dies"
"But not everybody lives."
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Jul 08, 2009, 08:38 AM
#9
 I can dig it! "WP"
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
Here is another cool way to start a fire.
http://www.onagocag.com/piston.html
Make one yourself. or google: "fire piston"
GG~
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Jul 08, 2009, 12:15 PM
#10
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
this can be done with a cell phone battery also
All animals are equal, but some are more equal then others. -George Orwell
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Jul 08, 2009, 08:14 PM
#11
 "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
Aircrew survival instructors taught us to use small chunks of candles. You can put a 1/2 inch diameter by 5 inch candle into your pocket survival kit. Cut a 1 inch piece off of the candle and set it under your kindling pile and light it with a cigarette lighter or match. The piece of candle will burn long enough to get the kindling started so you can slowly add larger materials to build up the fire. This method helps you to conserve your matches and / or lighter fluid.
This reminds me of one of the things Indians used to laugh about concerning how the Eurowhites would build campfires in the wintertime. They would say, "Indian build small fire; sit close; stay warm. Whiteman build big fire; stand away from it and freeze." Think about it. They were absolutely correct. We build big campfires, use up our materials faster, and can't get close because of the heat. The Indians build small fires; sit close to it; and stay warm without using up their fire materials.
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Jul 10, 2009, 11:03 PM
#12
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
HI short stack: Apol for the delay. I simply use a very small fire at my feet, and one at each shoulder. This keeps you nicely warm, you will wake up every so often, so just stick another small branch into each fire and go back to sleep. I also built a small fence of vertical twigs up hill from my sleeping spot. This would deflect the cold, descending, down slope, cold air around me and my small fires..
The Yaquis that I was living with, would burn up a tree each night, and not sleep as comfortable as I did.. hehehheh.
Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to live, not live to exist"
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Jul 11, 2009, 08:39 PM
#13
 "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
 Originally Posted by Real de Tayopa
HI short stack: Apol for the delay. I simply use a very small fire at my feet, and one at each shoulder. This keeps you nicely warm, you will wake up every so often, so just stick another small branch into each fire and go back to sleep. I also built a small fence of vertical twigs up hill from my sleeping spot. This would deflect the cold, descending, down slope, cold air around me and my small fires..
The Yaquis that I was living with, would burn up a tree each night, and not sleep as comfortable as I did.. hehehheh.Don Jose de La Mancha
Sounds like those Yaquis could have learned something from the Apaches and the Plains Indians of the US.
" 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter
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Jul 15, 2009, 08:57 PM
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Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
Nah shortstack, they let the women take all responsibility for this. The older men still hold on to the routine of sitting around making themslevs purty wnile updating their weapons and getting ready to defend their pueblo. - or just getting drunk.
Don Jose de La Mancha
"I exist to live, not live to exist"
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Jul 16, 2009, 11:10 PM
#15
 "The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits."~Albert Einstein
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
" 'Polls' are surveys of uninformed people who think it's possible to get the answer wrong." .........Ann Coulter
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Aug 03, 2009, 02:08 PM
#16
 Retired Air Force, unfortunately still working
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
I carry alcohol hand wipes with me and a small tube of vaseline. I apply a small dab of vaseline to the pad, pinch the pad (at the vaseline) together into a v, set the wide end down, and and light it. The alcohol lights easy and the vaseline keeps it lit like a candle does, drying out anything wet in the kindling.
I did learn something from these posts. Love the brillo pad idea and the placing of the small fires makes alot of sense.
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I stand on a mountain and look around.
Before me is a valley full of mists and mystery.
Behind me is a trail to home and comfort.
Beside me is the first light of promise and a new day.
Over my head are the stars, reaching to infinity and my destination.
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Aug 07, 2009, 09:59 PM
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Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
hair works great...save those wooly boogers from the Barber shop floor.
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Aug 08, 2009, 08:39 AM
#18
 DFCA
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
I carry a small pocket torch, butane fuel, it's good for about 30 minutes of burn time
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Jan 15, 2010, 07:53 PM
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Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
I understand that in a pinch you can use your underwear and a match. It works because there be methane in your shorts??
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Jan 15, 2010, 08:05 PM
#20
 "WP"
Re: QUICK START A CAMPFIRE WITHOUT CHEMICALS, LIGHTER FLUID OR MATCHES
 Originally Posted by Rando
I prefer to use dryer lint balls dabbed in vaseline and stored in a film can.
I think I saw Les Stroud do that too! 
He's such a survival stud... seriously. Almost all of his stuff is practical, and not theatrics (like other tv "survivalists" )
I'm in the middle of reading Les' survival book that my girlfriend bought me for Christmas, and I'm really enjoying it alot!!!
Bran <><
Rom. 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Rom. 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
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