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  1. #1
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    Jul 2010
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    Is this gold?

    I didn't find this with my metal detector, I found it while walking along a beach on Puget Sound. It was green when I found it which made me think it was copper, but I soaked it in 20% muriatic acid for about 10 minutes and it came out looking this this. It looks like it's a nugget with a mic of gold/copper, but I'm not sure. I posted this in the What Is It forum, but my thread seems to have died and I didn't really find out what it is, so I thought I would ask here. It's about an inch long and weighs an ounce. I can scratch the gold colored part pretty easy and when I scrape it on the bottom of a ceramic cup it leaves a gold colored streak. On my Ace 250 on the Target ID it blinks around to everything but stays on the 10 cent mark most of the time. Can anyone say for sure what kind of gold content this contains, if any, and what it could be worth?
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  2. #2

    Apr 2003
    Alberta
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    Re: Is this gold?

    If you want to find out if the outside coating/layer is gold--take it to a jeweler with an electronic tester and test the surface. Or, find a friend with one, or you can buy them on the Internet.

    From what I can see in the photograph, it looks like copper with a coating of gold. Perhaps there is some gold running with the copper inside as well. It's no secret that many copper mines often extract paying quantities of gold along with the copper; so, it's in the realm of possibility.

    Perhaps another more likely possibility--many "novelty" nuggets are made from native copper nuggets plated with gold--you know, the ones they sell so you can fool your friends when you're out panning/sluicing/detecting--they look quite real. You can always find them for sale on Ebay.

    Visually--it appears to be a copper chunk/piece/nugget coated with gold. It's quite difficult to ID something like you have there from only looking at pictures. See if any of the above ideas will work for you, and post here when you find out what it is.

    All the best,

    Lanny
    Nothin' quite as fun as chasin' sassy gold! http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/me...mysteries.html

  3. #3
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    Medicine/Holy Man

    May 2010
    California
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    Re: Is this gold?

    I would heed Lanny's excellent advice.

    From the pictures, (especially the first one,) it appears identical to ore that I've seen and found. And, if you look at the top/left of the first pic, it does look like raw gold. (I won't go into a discourse on "sulfides" and "tellurides".) In any case, it looks good enough have tested. Then, if it is indeed gold, a good geologist should be able to tell you where it originated.

    Eagle

  4. #4
    us
    Jul 2010
    27

    Re: Is this gold?

    Thanks for the replies, it's sounding like there is gold in it, but I do want to get it tested. Does anyone know of a reputable place near Seattle, WA? I also have a coin collection from my great grandmother that I would like to get appraised or at least looked at by a professional and my mom wants to get her mothers wedding ring appraised also. I doubt there's a place that will do all three, but any suggestions on places to check out?

  5. #5
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    Medicine/Holy Man

    May 2010
    California
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    Re: Is this gold?

    You'll probably have to make 2 stops. Let's face it, if you want an appraisal on coins, you wouldn't want to take them to a jeweler. Most that I've found know little about the value of coins. The same goes for the jewelry; you wouldn't take it to a coin shop, (unless you just wanted the gold or silver value.)

    My advice: Check around and find a jeweler who is well established, (preferably for several years,) then check with the local Chamber of Commerce to try to find what kind of reputation he/they have. If they've ever been reported for "shady dealings", it should show up. Same for the coins.

    I don't know about Washington, but I've found that jewelers and coin shops around here are happy to help, and have never charged me for appraisals or even purity tests.

    Eagle

  6. #6
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    May 2009
    Yuma Az
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    Re: Is this gold?

    Sam get ahold of JuJu an talk to him he is a local an you can trust him . Give him a yell
    Building my wealth one pull tab at a time Tank69

  7. #7
    us
    Jul 2010
    27

    Re: Is this gold?

    It's been a while, and I haven't really followed up on it at all. I think it's pretty unlikely I would sell it. I have two more questions, would cleaning/polishing it decrease value, and if it doesn't, what would be the best way to clean/polish it? I soaked it in warm soapy water and it removed some dirt, but it's still pretty dull and the copper has some green on it.

  8. #8
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    Nov 2009
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    Re: Is this gold?

    Purdy rock there Sam, just send it to me and I will dispose of it! Prolly just fools gold..heehe

  9. #9

    May 2005
    St. Louis, missouri
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    Re: Is this gold?

    what a excellent find!

  10. #10
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    Mar 2011
    Tucson, AZ
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    Re: Is this gold?

    What's the verdict? Was it gold?

  11. #11
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    My Hearts Desire

    Nov 2010
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    Re: Is this gold?

    sudsy ammonia works great shaken not stired

    at the end of the season i put all my gold in a jar, with sudsy ammonia and shake for about an hour watching the game or a movie
    " We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. "George Orwell

  12. #12
    us
    Jul 2010
    27

    Re: Is this gold?

    DesertNuggets, I have had it tested yet, I'm not sure if I will unless I find a cheap tester, and I haven't been looking. It is pretty soft, and leaves a gold(ish) streak on ceramic, so I think it a mix of copper and gold. I also see small bits of rock in it, and on the left side of the second picture, there's little 'waves' that make it look like it's been melted. I guess I should find out for sure if it's gold and how much gold might be in it some day...
    2cmorau, I will try the ammonia method. I have tried vinegar for a little, but that didn't seem to make much of a difference. I did manage to get the copper looking bits a bit shinier.

  13. #13
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    Mar 2011
    Tucson, AZ
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    Re: Is this gold?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam K
    DesertNuggets, I have had it tested yet, I'm not sure if I will unless I find a cheap tester, and I haven't been looking. It is pretty soft, and leaves a gold(ish) streak on ceramic, so I think it a mix of copper and gold. I also see small bits of rock in it, and on the left side of the second picture, there's little 'waves' that make it look like it's been melted. I guess I should find out for sure if it's gold and how much gold might be in it some day...
    2cmorau, I will try the ammonia method. I have tried vinegar for a little, but that didn't seem to make much of a difference. I did manage to get the copper looking bits a bit shinier.
    You can buy a gold test kit on eBay for like $10. It'd be worth knowing with todays gold prices.

  14. #14

    Apr 2003
    Alberta
    Various Minelabs(5000, 2100, X-Terra 705), Falcon MD20, and the Tesoro Sand Shark for sniping underwater on cleaned bedrock.
    3,326
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    Metal detecting for gold and Surface Suction Sluicing, AKA Triple-S mining.

    Re: Is this gold?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2cmorau
    sudsy ammonia works great shaken not stired

    at the end of the season i put all my gold in a jar, with sudsy ammonia and shake for about an hour watching the game or a movie
    I'll have to give that a try!

    All the best,

    Lanny

    P.S. Sam, if you ever find out what it is, let us know.
    Nothin' quite as fun as chasin' sassy gold! http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/me...mysteries.html

  15. #15
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    Feb 2005
    Menominee, Michigan
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    Re: Is this gold?

    i know much of the gold that was mined around here had copper and silver mixed in, and over a few feet of depth the mixture ratios changed alot. that is a nice piece
    where's the good stuff

 

 

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